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Regarding section "Ties to terrorist and extremist organizations" Which contains as follow:
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In August 1999 the Islamic Development Bank approved a $250,000 transfer issued by the Saudi government as a contribution to “the purchase of land in Washington DC to be the headquarters for an education and research center under the aegis of the Council for American Islamic Relations (CAIR).”[13][14] CAIR is a U.S.-based Muslim advocacy organization with strong ties to Hamas which have been confirmed by several investigations.[15]
An article by Rachel Ehrenfeld and Alyssa A. Lappen reported that in 2001 the Islamic Development Bank transferred $538 million raised by Saudi and Gulf royal telethons to support families of Palestinian suicide bombers and the cause of the Palestinian intifada.[16] On August 1, 2001 Dr Ahmad Muhammad Ali, a Saudi academic and president of the Islamic Development Bank, reportedly said during an interview with Asharq al-Awsat: “There was no delay in paying financial assistance to the families of Palestinian martyrs...We have started paying them soon after receiving the money.”[17][18]
Dr Ali had previously declared that IDB was responsible for the smooth functioning of al-Quds Intifada Fund and al-Aqsa Fund, both established during an Arab summit in Cairo in October 2000. According to the final communiqué of the summit, “Al-Quds Intifadah Fund will have a capital of 200 million dollars to be allocated for disbursement to the families of Palestinian martyrs fallen in the Intifadah.”[16][19]
Furthermore, Ehrenfeld and Lappen mentioned documented bank records discovered in the West Bank and Gaza proving that the IDB has channeled UN funds to Hamas.[16] Nevertheless, the bank was granted observer status by the UN in 2007 amidst all-round criticism.[16][17]
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I believe above statement is misleading and tendentious. I would like to reason with you why I saw that as misleading and tendentious. In your article, you have raised concern regarding involvement Islamic Development Bank in Intifada and Al-Quds. And you have put some sources for it. Related to Intifada or Al-Quds, Those grants/special assistant are mainly to help people in emergency situation which related with poverty or poor people. Islamic Development Bank has many funds similar like this and has helping many people in needed including in emergency situation such as in Myanmar, African countries, Indonesia and even in India. Simply because Islamic Development Bank is helping poor or in needed families in Palestine, it straight away became supporting even ties with Terrorist/extremist organization.
And as further explanation, please review below sites http://www.saudiembassy.net/latest_news/news06150901.aspx http://www.isdb.org/irj/go/km/docs/documents/IDBDevelopments/Internet/English/IDB/CM/Publications/IDBGroupBrief2013.pdf http://www-wds.worldbank.org/external/default/WDSContentServer/WDSP/IB/2015/10/15/090224b08314b83e/1_0/Rendered/PDF/West0Bank0and00additional0financing.pdf
The action regarding with Al-Quds / Intifada isn't alone. Islamic Development Bank together with Saudi Arabia, UNRWA, UNDP and the World Bank, They are working to help people in emergency situation. So in the Al-Quds and Intifada fund situation, it's not only Islamic Development Bank but also others such as World Bank itself. Also Islamic Development Bank have many initiates to help poor including with Bill Gates Foundation.
Also regarding Boston bombing, perhaps Islamic Development Bank contributes to Islamic Center in Boston as well as well as hundreds/thousands place of moslem community. Do you think, it's Islamic Development Bank responsibilities if someone in those moslem community became crazy and decided to do terrorist or criminal acts?
Islamic Development Bank is never ties with terrorism act and extremist organizations.
islamic Development Bank vision and mission are to fight poverty which has significant relation with reducing terrorism act in certain point. These are our Vision http://www.isdb.org/irj/portal/anonymous?NavigationTarget=navurl://eb226e0b9a3297ebddcc5554057dd35f
islamic Development Bank mission is: “The IDB Group is committed to alleviating poverty; promoting human development; science and technology; Islamic economics; banking and finance; and enhancing cooperation amongst member countries, in collaboration with our development partners.”
If you concern regarding terrorist and extremist organization then you should helping Islamic Development Bank to help poor, uneducated moslem community to be growth in economical and more educated. As we all aware poverty and uneducated have contributes to potential influence of terrorism organization.
If you are still concern about this and doubt regarding Islamic Development Bank activities, I can ask permission from Islamic Development Bank to share directly where our funds have been used. Please don't attack the good guys who got blamed because bad guys out there.
Thanks a lot in advance.
Adimyati123 ( talk) 01:24, 2 February 2016 (UTC) adimyati123
Hello Alpie202 - I was sad to see that you reverted my recent edit on the Islamic Society of Boston page; I reverted it back (undid your reversion) and now I think we should talk about it. Could you please check out the Talk page for that article ( Talk:Islamic Society of Boston) where I've been trying to start a conversation? Thank you. Below is the "talkback" template which will take you there:
Message added 18:50, 8 February 2016 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Megercliff ( talk) 18:50, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
I think you're a fairly new editor (and I'm not very experienced or active myself), so I hope you won't mind if I explain some Wikipedia rules/practices about disagreements between editors like us. It's okay for us to disagree, but we should discuss it and come to some resolution. We definitely cannot continue to revert like this: there's a rule against it: Wikipedia:Edit_warring#The_three-revert_rule. If we can't agree, we should start using Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution and the Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_requests/Guide
By the way, there are some guidelines about what a good article on Islam, and specifically about a mosque, should contain, here: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Islam
I look forward to hearing from you -- best wishes, Megercliff ( talk) 18:50, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
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Hi Alpie202,
Regarding section "Ties to terrorist and extremist organizations" Which contains as follow:
====[edit source]
In August 1999 the Islamic Development Bank approved a $250,000 transfer issued by the Saudi government as a contribution to “the purchase of land in Washington DC to be the headquarters for an education and research center under the aegis of the Council for American Islamic Relations (CAIR).”[13][14] CAIR is a U.S.-based Muslim advocacy organization with strong ties to Hamas which have been confirmed by several investigations.[15]
An article by Rachel Ehrenfeld and Alyssa A. Lappen reported that in 2001 the Islamic Development Bank transferred $538 million raised by Saudi and Gulf royal telethons to support families of Palestinian suicide bombers and the cause of the Palestinian intifada.[16] On August 1, 2001 Dr Ahmad Muhammad Ali, a Saudi academic and president of the Islamic Development Bank, reportedly said during an interview with Asharq al-Awsat: “There was no delay in paying financial assistance to the families of Palestinian martyrs...We have started paying them soon after receiving the money.”[17][18]
Dr Ali had previously declared that IDB was responsible for the smooth functioning of al-Quds Intifada Fund and al-Aqsa Fund, both established during an Arab summit in Cairo in October 2000. According to the final communiqué of the summit, “Al-Quds Intifadah Fund will have a capital of 200 million dollars to be allocated for disbursement to the families of Palestinian martyrs fallen in the Intifadah.”[16][19]
Furthermore, Ehrenfeld and Lappen mentioned documented bank records discovered in the West Bank and Gaza proving that the IDB has channeled UN funds to Hamas.[16] Nevertheless, the bank was granted observer status by the UN in 2007 amidst all-round criticism.[16][17]
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I believe above statement is misleading and tendentious. I would like to reason with you why I saw that as misleading and tendentious. In your article, you have raised concern regarding involvement Islamic Development Bank in Intifada and Al-Quds. And you have put some sources for it. Related to Intifada or Al-Quds, Those grants/special assistant are mainly to help people in emergency situation which related with poverty or poor people. Islamic Development Bank has many funds similar like this and has helping many people in needed including in emergency situation such as in Myanmar, African countries, Indonesia and even in India. Simply because Islamic Development Bank is helping poor or in needed families in Palestine, it straight away became supporting even ties with Terrorist/extremist organization.
And as further explanation, please review below sites http://www.saudiembassy.net/latest_news/news06150901.aspx http://www.isdb.org/irj/go/km/docs/documents/IDBDevelopments/Internet/English/IDB/CM/Publications/IDBGroupBrief2013.pdf http://www-wds.worldbank.org/external/default/WDSContentServer/WDSP/IB/2015/10/15/090224b08314b83e/1_0/Rendered/PDF/West0Bank0and00additional0financing.pdf
The action regarding with Al-Quds / Intifada isn't alone. Islamic Development Bank together with Saudi Arabia, UNRWA, UNDP and the World Bank, They are working to help people in emergency situation. So in the Al-Quds and Intifada fund situation, it's not only Islamic Development Bank but also others such as World Bank itself. Also Islamic Development Bank have many initiates to help poor including with Bill Gates Foundation.
Also regarding Boston bombing, perhaps Islamic Development Bank contributes to Islamic Center in Boston as well as well as hundreds/thousands place of moslem community. Do you think, it's Islamic Development Bank responsibilities if someone in those moslem community became crazy and decided to do terrorist or criminal acts?
Islamic Development Bank is never ties with terrorism act and extremist organizations.
islamic Development Bank vision and mission are to fight poverty which has significant relation with reducing terrorism act in certain point. These are our Vision http://www.isdb.org/irj/portal/anonymous?NavigationTarget=navurl://eb226e0b9a3297ebddcc5554057dd35f
islamic Development Bank mission is: “The IDB Group is committed to alleviating poverty; promoting human development; science and technology; Islamic economics; banking and finance; and enhancing cooperation amongst member countries, in collaboration with our development partners.”
If you concern regarding terrorist and extremist organization then you should helping Islamic Development Bank to help poor, uneducated moslem community to be growth in economical and more educated. As we all aware poverty and uneducated have contributes to potential influence of terrorism organization.
If you are still concern about this and doubt regarding Islamic Development Bank activities, I can ask permission from Islamic Development Bank to share directly where our funds have been used. Please don't attack the good guys who got blamed because bad guys out there.
Thanks a lot in advance.
Adimyati123 ( talk) 01:24, 2 February 2016 (UTC) adimyati123
Hello Alpie202 - I was sad to see that you reverted my recent edit on the Islamic Society of Boston page; I reverted it back (undid your reversion) and now I think we should talk about it. Could you please check out the Talk page for that article ( Talk:Islamic Society of Boston) where I've been trying to start a conversation? Thank you. Below is the "talkback" template which will take you there:
Message added 18:50, 8 February 2016 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Megercliff ( talk) 18:50, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
I think you're a fairly new editor (and I'm not very experienced or active myself), so I hope you won't mind if I explain some Wikipedia rules/practices about disagreements between editors like us. It's okay for us to disagree, but we should discuss it and come to some resolution. We definitely cannot continue to revert like this: there's a rule against it: Wikipedia:Edit_warring#The_three-revert_rule. If we can't agree, we should start using Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution and the Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_requests/Guide
By the way, there are some guidelines about what a good article on Islam, and specifically about a mosque, should contain, here: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Islam
I look forward to hearing from you -- best wishes, Megercliff ( talk) 18:50, 8 February 2016 (UTC)