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Hi there! :)
As someone who's worked on D&D and/or RPG articles before, I'm inviting you to participate in our goal to both improve articles that have been selected to be placed in the next Wikipedia DVD release, as well as nominate more to be selected for this project. Please see the WikiProject D&D talk page for more details. :) BOZ ( talk) 04:27, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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I just wanted to point out that it is great having someone else actively working on D&D articles again. It has been like pulling teeth to get people to want to work on them lately. You can see my user page for some of the monsters and gods articles I have worked on lately. I'm sure you've noticed all of the tags at the top of so many articles; these were part of the reason most people seemed to have given up entirely. Don't let me get in the way while you're on a roll though; thanks again for your effort! :) BOZ ( talk) 16:26, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up about faerie fire. -- GentlemanGhost ( talk) 20:21, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
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Hi there. I restored the categories on all the D&D articles that you recently redirected. I find that when browsing a category, it's nice to see articles that have been redirected. That way, if you need to find something under the edit history, it's a lot easier to find. 71.194.32.252 ( talk) 00:17, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
As you have been merging and redirecting deity articles, I will also point out that a number of articles had been redirected in the past due to PROD, or because the notability template remaining too long. Additionally, I had also asked for a number of AFD'ed articles to have their edit histories restored in case someone wanted to merge the content in later. In that spirit, however you might wish to use them, I present: Blibdoolpoolp, Caoimhin, Daragor, Eachthighern, Emmantiensien, Gaknulak, Khurgorbaeyag, Kuraulyek, Maanzecorian, Nathair Sgiathach, Psilofyr, Squerrik, and Verenestra. :) BOZ ( talk) 02:02, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
See there, that wasn't so hard. :) I know I was pretty nervous the first time I tried that, but the results were encouraging. BOZ ( talk) 16:14, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
If you're not entirely sure where to go from here, you could always look to the book Monster Mythology for inspiration. I've removed most of the gods you've already worked with. (note that a number of these are referenced into my first post above):
Gods of the Kobolds: Kurtulmak, Gaknulak
Other Goblinoid Deities: Kuraulyek, Meriadar
Gods of the Underdark (misc): Laduguer, Psilofyr
Gods of the Beholders: Great Mother. Gzemnid
The Interloper Gods: Vaprak, Gorellik
Gods of the Seas and Skies: Eadro, Jazirian, Koriel, Panzuriel, Persana, Quorlinn, Remnis, Sekolah, Surminare, Syranita, Trishina, Water Lion, Stillsong
Gods of the Scaly Folk: Blibdoolpoolp, Laogzed, Merrshaulk, Parrafaire, Ramenos, Semuanya, Shekinester
Gods of the Dark Folk: Cegilune, Kanchelsis, Mellifleur, Squerrik, Balador, Ferrix, Daragor, Eshebala
The Sylvan Gods: Titania, Oberon, Caoimhin, Damh, Eachthighern, Emmantiensien, Fionnghuala, Nathair Sgiathach, Skerrit, Squelaiche, Verenestra, Queen of Air and Darkness
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This message was placed automatically, and it is possible that the bot is confused and found similarity where none actually exists. If that is the case, you can remove the tag from the article and it would be appreciated if you could drop a note on the maintainer's talk page. CorenSearchBot ( talk) 22:26, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
You'll find this useful for identifying sources. :) I have used it extensively when adding the publication history sections to monster articles. There is probably an updated one, but this at least goes to the end of 3.5 and it may go even further by now. BOZ ( talk) 21:26, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Heya. :) I resurrected Half-elf (Dungeons & Dragons) for what it's worth, if you want to do anything with that. BOZ ( talk) 19:03, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Wow, Faerie dragon sure was a crappy little article. ;) See if you can make any use of that... BOZ ( talk) 15:51, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
-Removed indent-Oh... that's interesting. I hadn't known about that. Well, if he does come back we'll just have to continue to fight any unproductive modifications that he might make by trying to enhance articles or explaining why certain tags don't make sense (I just found today a -Who?- tag in a sentence that didn't refer to a single creature or person, for example). I think that it should also be easier to handle in the compilation articles than it was in all of the shorter articles. - Drilnoth ( talk) 20:16, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Yep, I'm aware it's around, seeing as I created it! :D That said, I have not been active for several reasons, mainly that I no longer play D&D and that I had a philosophy disagreement with everyone else in that I think no monsters meet WP:Notability, at all. I think the entire thing is a giant pile of bloated fancruft, and though combating that was one of the reasons it was created, thanks to a policy which is probably too broad to be helpful, it became more of a place for people to circlejerk over what new fancruft to add to Wikipedia.
Good luck though! Piuro ( talk) 23:06, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey man. :) I know you're busy, but since you play both D&D and M:tG according to your user page, I was wondering if there is anything you can do to help me improve Wizards of the Coast in my GA drive, it would be much appreciated. BOZ ( talk) 23:45, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
-Removed indent-Great! So what article will we try to get to GA next? - Drilnoth ( talk) 19:48, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey there. :) If you ever wanted to create a page of Forgotten Realms characters, as you've been doing with deities and monsters, there were a lot of them deleted. In fact, it was those pages getting deleted that I knew was the first sign we might be in trouble. You're busy at the moment, but keep this idea in the back of your head. I can compile a more complete list, but here are a few that I kept track of for starters: Arilyn Moonblade, Danilo Thann (edit history deleted), Dragonbait (edit history deleted), Fzoul Chembryl, Ityak-Ortheel, Kezef the Chaos Hound, Laeral Silverhand, Manshoon, Olive Ruskettle, Storm Silverhand, Szass Tam, Vangerdahast. BOZ ( talk) 16:31, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for [2]. Calvin 1998 ( t· c) 00:38, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Uh yes, thank you for undoing a copyright violation removal. I have know removed it again. Alientraveller ( talk) 18:36, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Check the talk page for this article for the reasoning for the inclusion of the neutrality tag in the articleissues template that was updated to reflect the multiple problems with this article. It is always best to check the talk page and make sure to add a section to the talk page for any article in which a new tag is added, prior to removing to make sure all editors have a chance to discuss a new tag or the removal of a tag so as not to cause edit wars in an article. shadzar- talk 20:57, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
I userfied and moved it to User:Drilnoth/Adventures in Blackmoor to preserve teh page history. If it can be made notable in its own right, then it can go back into userpsace, or have a look and see if it is more suited to a series or something. Cheers, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 23:21, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey, thanks so much for all your work on all of the D&D articles! Web Warlock ( talk) 18:11, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
LOL, no problem. :) And try not to burn yourself out on unproductive arguments like so many others have in the past. Wikipedia has a very specific dispute resolution process. You have stated your case, as have numerous other editors (see the documentation on the mediation case), and have reported your findings to others. If the problem persists, we have Third Opinions, RfCs, and then ultimately ArbCom. If I told you I never expected Gavin's case to go that far, I'd be lying; everything else is only delaying the inevitable, but that is the course we must follow for now. BOZ ( talk) 18:34, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Heh. :) I love the smell of chaos in the morning! Gets the blood boiling... maybe the real reason that people stopped editing D&D pages is because without Gavin there was no conflict. ;) BOZ ( talk) 13:25, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I reverted your addition of the fact tag on the D&D article. The Simon piece was cited and is an actual paper written in the 80s. It's also supportive of D&D so I'm not sure why you removed it, perhaps you meant to remove another piece? Ethan a dawe ( talk) 13:48, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey, awesome! Good luck with that process. I let the folks on the comics project know that you picked it up. You could have a chat with User:Jclemens, who did the EGG and WotC reviews, if you need some advice - he's done at least a couple dozen already. :) BOZ ( talk) 15:52, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Thought you might find this funny. [3] shadzar- talk 17:31, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
-Cross posted from
User talk:RJHall-
Thanks for adding in that ref to a bunch of articles; any reliable secondary sources we can get are good, and books are even harder to come by then web pages! -
Drilnoth (
talk) 18:33, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for reviewing that article. I'm not finished with the concerns, but I will notify you when I'm done. Thanks. Wildroot ( talk) 23:32, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Also, I just barely finished with the re-editing of the Plot section for Batman & Robin. I think that's ready for GA-status as well. Wildroot ( talk) 16:57, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey there. I was under the impression that we were keeping track of redirected pages via having {{ D&D}} on the page. I noticed that yesterday, Craw-Daddy had deleted a number of such talk pages I'd created. I've been trying to locate pages to apply the project, including redirects, but I'd rather not waste my time on that if it's going to be undone. I guess my question to you is, are these useful in any way? The ones that got deleted seemed to be only on pure redirects (as opposed to redirected articles) where the page had been moved and a redirect left in its place. Are there only some redirects we'd really want to keep track of? Let me know before I continue. Thanks! 71.194.32.252 ( talk) 14:10, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
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71.194.32.252 ( talk) 15:06, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
On an unrelated note, having {{D&D|class=redirect}} is sufficient, as this automatically adds the page into the "NA-importance" category, so {{D&D|class=redirect|importance=NA}} contains a redundant "importance=NA" tag. Just thought you should know to save yourself some typing. --Craw-daddy | T | 15:35, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey, here's another template: {{ D20}}. 71.194.32.252 ( talk) 22:31, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I restored the history of the Pharaun Mizzrym article, behind a redirect to War of the Spider Queen#Characters (like you suggested on ^demon's talkpage). The most recent version of the history is at [4]. - Bobet 11:07, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Since it seems there is little to do in this war that is being thrown at people, just find the proper warning, and place on the user's talk page and revert the vandalism accordingly for each occurrence (as was done with Ansalon). Each tag contains some information, but the user's failure to address the specific concerns that were the reason for placing the tag, in the placing editor's opinion, on the talk page of the articles in which the tags are placed means either of a few things, one of which could be seen directly as vandalism and/or disruptive editing. shadzar- talk 23:07, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
~remove indent~ User_talk:134.139.148.100 is where I saw mention of WP:SPA so don't think it will help that much from an IP account that may just be a sockpuppet or SPA itself...so don't know much if anything in WP:SPA is relavent or not. As I tell BOZ, I am just a research monkey, so read the things I find and make your own conclusions as to whether or not they are of any use as I also don't know much about procedures around here other than working with consensus, even if you guys want to merge DM -> GM, and it just don't feel right to me. =P shadzar- talk 02:15, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
~undent~ WP:OWN? "I realy need citations with footnotes; vague references which don't support the text of this article won't do." shadzar- talk 00:37, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
~undent~ AN/I closed/archived by bot, current location shadzar- talk 03:36, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Following your post to my talk page regarding deletion of the D&D Module redirect talk pages, the user who had requested deletion recreated all of them. I have posted at my talk page why they are utterly useless and should stay (and new be re-) deleted. I am inclined to delete them all again. Please advise why and how these talk pages of redirects that existed for one day total could ever be useful.-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 19:52, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for the C-rating. ;) I'm trying to fill in some blanks here and there, and 2nd edition stuff is often woefully underrepresented.
Today, I'm going to make an effort into working on the Ravenloft module article. I'm taking a short break first, though. :) BOZ ( talk) 17:39, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Hello again. Would you be interested in copyediting the article Ralph Bakshi? It is currently up for featured article candidacy. ( Ibaranoff24 ( talk) 11:52, 30 November 2008 (UTC))
Hey, did I ever point out my first barnstar to you? ;) BOZ ( talk) 04:39, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing out the WT:FICT discussion; I'd noticed it earlier. As for the RFC/U, I'm not sure how the barnstar could really be made to fit into it, both because it was given so long ago and because it seems to be a (mostly) isolated incident of WP:SIRH. If you can find a way to work it in, though, please do. - Drilnoth ( talk) 13:32, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
OK, looking at the current version, I have to point out some items that we should consider either removing or using in a different way. I take the "Evidence of disputed behavior" section to be a list of things that the person shouldn't be doing, rather than suspicious or borderline questionable stuff. Items #3, 6, 9, 11-13 are interesting, but I don't see how they belong in this section - perhaps there is somewhere else we can use them? The diffs under #8 seem kind of weak, so not sure; we could use stronger examples of ignoring consensus. We could also use some diffs that illustrate edit warring over templates, so I'll try to look for those. Items #10 and 15 I guess we can keep, but since those are content disputes rather than conduct disputes, I would make sure you have the most concrete examples possible and toss any weaker or questionable ones. 16:47, 5 December 2008 (UTC) (previous comment by BOZ. - Drilnoth ( talk) 16:49, 5 December 2008 (UTC))
OK, I'm done with what I wanted to do regarding the setup. I could go on and on looking, but this is RFC not ArbCom. I say fire it off whenever you feel it's ready. One admonishment I would make is that you try to find more recent late-November early-December diffs for the "Evidence of failing to resolve the dispute" to show that not only was he still talking the same talk, but walking the same walk. You know, diffs of him adding the notability template where we have the importance and/or primarysources, etc, that sort of thing. Shouldn't be too hard since you'll be focusing on the last couple hundred edits or so. Other than that, not sure we need anything else. BOZ ( talk) 21:17, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for all your work in cleaning up/consolidating the goblinoid deities. I spent some time a while ago trying to track down source books and enter all the details, but eventually got disheartened by all the notability tagging going on. It's such an easy way to vandalize a page without having to justify the tag. The argument could be made that many Wiki articles don't fulfill the exact requirements for notability (e.g. this or this), but it seems that some people have specifically singled out D&D articles. Anyway, good job! Maglubiyet ( talk) 22:56, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Remember, calm, reasoned, rational. Read it a few times, then respond later. ;) A quick, visceral response feels good, but looks bad. BOZ ( talk) 23:48, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
I should have checked back sooner, but if you haven't seen it already: [7] BOZ ( talk) 02:01, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Alright. Thanks for letting me know, then I won't make the same mistake twice.— Dæ dαlus Contribs 15:24, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey there, just a note; when you see the monster names pluralized or not pluralized in the monster lists, that is intentional. I tried to write the names as written in the product in question, rather than how they may be commonly known. So, when Orc is written as "Orcs" for the White Box, that's because all the monster names there were pluralized. BOZ ( talk) 17:55, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey, my first Barnstar. Cool. Thanks. Vulcan's Forge ( talk) 01:43, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
I set up Flanaess and merged a few of the already-redirected articles into it. I didn't link to every article that should probably be linked to it, but I'll probably come back and hit that at some point.
My next goal is to make List of Forgotten Realms characters look more like List of major Dragonlance characters. :) I'll get started on that in a little while. BOZ ( talk) 02:35, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
I added a note over on the discussion page for Demodand that might help that particular article. You've been making a bunch of contributions to random D&D articles of late (which makes you awesome) so I figured that I might mention it to someone capable of editing the article (I'd do it myself, but per that note on the discussion page, it might cause a tempest over perceived COI that one or two editors might jump on in a fit of wikilawyering). Shemeska ( talk) 02:53, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Just a quick note - keep an eye on this thread and this thread. If you need me to ask/mention anything there, let me know. :) BOZ ( talk) 07:53, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
-removed indent-Thanks for the offer, but I think that any additional images would have to be free (i.e. not of the products themselves). Take a look at the FAC review for more information about the images... the article used to have a lot more images, but the fair-use rationales didn't work. - Drilnoth ( talk) 13:03, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Neat! That's a really cool idea. There's got to be a way to get a bot to do it (I sure wouldn't expect anyone to do that by hand for more than a few articles, and even then) but that's a damn cool idea. The original boxed set is actually getting more hits than I expected. ;) BOZ ( talk) 20:24, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
I got tired of looking, but I found a couple more 7000+ hits articles: Raistlin Majere, and Dungeons & Dragons (TV series). You really do need to see if there's a bot you can run - maybe filter the whole watchlist into the thing and see what comes up where! BOZ ( talk) 04:55, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Do you know if there might be something wrong with the redirect category? I recently added Talk:The Knights of Myth Drannor Trilogy and Talk:The Parched Sea but they don't quite look right to me. :) BOZ ( talk) 23:33, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey there, did you see my latest comment? :) BOZ ( talk) 23:48, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Well, about all I can say is that we should focus as much as possible on known reliable sources. How about that Game Inventor's Guidebook - I'd milk that for as much as you can, as with any print source you might have access to. Where possible, we should replace cites from longbio and any sites of unproven reliability with cites from known reliable sources. I know I added a lot of longbio stuff today, but I just wanted to get that in there and we can worry about swapping out sources later. :) (see the article talk page for a bunch of additional stuff.) I'm going to look over the WotC website links and the obits because those might be some of the most reliable stuff we've got, and make sure they are as maxed out as they can be. Most of the other sources I've used have been questioned, but that doesn't mean they are necessarily unreliable, just uncertain. BOZ ( talk) 02:44, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Don't be discouraged if this doesn't make it on the first try. Dungeons & Dragons didn't make it until try #5. :) BOZ ( talk) 21:32, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I've been busy tonight... just wait until you see. :) BOZ ( talk) 04:57, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Regarding Kyngdoms, did you see the note I placed on the FAC page? BOZ ( talk) 20:54, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey. I went and added a bunch of citations to info in the Believer mag article. I really didn't add anything from it, except a few incidentals and some rearrangement, but figured it wouldn't hurt to back up things already in there with something that agrees. :) Feel free to remove any of those cites which seem like too much. I did use the source to add information to a bunch of other articles, which I figure wouldn't be hurting anything. A shame that they didn't want to consider that a reliable source, as it is very detailed in places, and includes a unique feature: most of the time, you see Gygax talking about Williams and Blume and getting only his POV, but this guy actually went and found them to hear at least part of their side of the story. I'm done for the night - Merry Christmas. :) Don't know when I'll be on tomorrow, but Friday is another story. ;) BOZ ( talk) 05:44, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for your message. I know the basics about wikis and editing, not a problem. But I have to admit that I don't know how to make a good profile for myself. If I can join the D&D projects, I am resolutely a classic D&D player: I play BEMC and RC rules almost exclusively, and am mostly interested in pre 3e stuff. So I'm not sure exactly where to start. C-Blade ( talk) 03:07, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Is there a place we can list what resources we have access to in case people have questions or need references? For example, I have the Cyclopedia, and I'd be happy to help someone out if they needed me to look up a reference. C-Blade ( talk) 03:10, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Howdy! Thanks for reviewing Lynn de Silva! I've been waiting quite some time for a review, and I'm glad the article finally got one :-). I'm wondering why it was rated C-class though, as it seems to me to fit all the B-class criteria. It's been thoroughly referenced, too. Thanks for your time! Ldesilva ( talk) 22:25, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey there. I think I have found most of the non-merged FR-locations that had been simply redirected without merging. Regardless, I'm tired of all the warnings (some of them seemingly misplaced and confusing) on my talk page regarding that (especially after the last couple of days), so I've been thinking about it and I don't want to bother bringing any more back, and maybe shouldn't have done that many as it is. I merged a few of them into Abeir-Toril to beef that article up a bit. I think a lot of them should probably be merged into somewhere appropriate, but I'm not sure where. Faerûn seems inappropriate, as that would overly bloat the article, and Geographical index of Toril likewise. There were some regional articles previoulsy, but those got redirected as well, and some still are (namely Northwest Faerûn, North Faerûn, Northeast Faerûn, West Faerûn, Interior Faerûn, East Faerûn, Southwest Faerûn, South Faerûn, and Southeast Faerûn), so that may not be the way to go either. Maybe create some lists like List of Forgotten Realms locations (or just Forgotten Realms locations), List of Forgotten Realms cities, or something like that? Let me know what you think and I'll work with you on whatever might be most appropriate. 71.194.32.252 ( talk) 04:52, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm going to take a look around at what articles and redirects there are, and see if I can map out a plan for consolidating this stuff. BOZ ( talk) 18:22, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! If you'd be willing to start up List of Forgotten Realms cities and List of Forgotten Realms nations, I'd be more than happy to start merging articles into the lists with a quickness. 71.194.32.252 ( talk) 00:48, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
I'll start the cities list in the fairly near future. BOZ ( talk) 17:03, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
I've put about as much work into that as I care to. :) I'll get back to sourcing tomorrow (when I'm not too busy Christmasing). FYI: [9]. BOZ ( talk) 06:03, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
That was a good catch! Maybe we should get a list going of fictional elements (characters mainly, but I don't doubt that other types of fictional elements have gone through, like Spoo) which are at FA level, so we can see what examples we can point to for quality level. Off the top of my head, Batman and Superman were both there, as were Homer Simpson and Bart Simpson - even Troy McClure. :) Note that, of course, not all FA's have been on the front page yet. Maybe one day Drizzt Do'Urden, Strahd von Zarovich, Lolth or Lord Soth will join them. ;) BOZ ( talk) 17:00, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Just a note, not sure if you noticed my reply... - Adolphus ( talk) 03:36, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
I took a look at the anon who you warned, and noticed that the anon had mostly been adding PRODs, speedies, and notability templates to articles which had been created within the last 24 hours - so new articles are precisely what they are targetting! BOZ ( talk) 17:49, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey! :) See my recent comments on the talk page. BOZ ( talk) 04:59, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
I would strongly advise against pointing out policy to Hrafn in AfD discussions--he has his own interpretations, which are generally not community-supported when they diverge from actual consensus. In my experience, such has never resulted in Hrafn changing his position--attempting to win him over has, in my experience, at best resulted in him failing to acknowledge such arguments or attempting to shift the burden of proof; at worst, it's a recipe for frustration and may prompt you to lose your cool. My experience-prompted advice is to simply not respond to Hrafn in AfD discussions. Jclemens ( talk) 22:11, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Any thoughts? :) BOZ ( talk) 17:01, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Here you go:
I10, Ravenloft II: The House on Gryphon Hill
Hickman, Hickman, Cook, Grubb, Johnson and Niles, artwork by Caldwell and Easley
Scenario for character levels 10–12, sequel to I6, Ravenloft. Gang written just before deadline by the whole TSR design staff. The vampire Strahd returns in a gothic adventure of Thing Man Was Not Meant to Know. Includes descriptions of the town of Mordentshire, some haunted moors, and a manor house, mapped in perspective.
004-484.1/900-86 48 p., large color map, outer folder. TSR, 1986.
From page 102 of Schick (1991).— RJH ( talk) 00:48, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
It got a whole lot of looks while it was up for AFD. :) I'm going to check out a few more articles for the Article Hits page. See the talk page for some notes I added. BOZ ( talk) 03:22, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Here is one to keep an eye on - think of it as the opposite end of the spectrum from Gavin. I'm considering tossing up an outside view after enough people have signed off on naughty Pixel. ;) BOZ ( talk) 18:30, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Treant for the rationale behind why I changed the redirect. The intent was not to suggest it's simply a ripoff of Tolkien's Ents; rather, I wanted a place where discussion of the topic could take place without seeming out of place. Paliku ( talk) 00:50, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
The article Dragons of Despair you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . It hasn't failed because it's basically a good article, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Dragons of Despair for things needed to be addressed.
Update: [13] BOZ ( talk) 06:03, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Thank you once again for the welcome. Several days ago I filed the Avlis article, spanning the namesake campaign setting and Neverwinter Nights persistent world, for reassessment within the Video Games WikiProject. I got a fairly helpful reassessment. Where do I request reassessment for the Dungeons&Dragons WikiProject as well? In this very case it is more a matter of synchronizing its standing in both projects, before reworking the article. -- VoidHamlet ( talk) 17:13, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Just so you know, I added several refs tonight that I found from other articles. If any turn out to be unreliable, you may remove them. BOZ ( talk) 03:00, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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Just a quick off-topic comment... so much for the notability template not being a ticking timebomb for deletion; User:B. Wolterding is PRODding/AFDing all the Sept-Oct 2007 notability templated articles one by one. BOZ ( talk) 03:46, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
I don't often participate in policy discussions, but... BOZ ( talk) 19:42, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
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I just wanted to point out that it is great having someone else actively working on D&D articles again. It has been like pulling teeth to get people to want to work on them lately. You can see my user page for some of the monsters and gods articles I have worked on lately. I'm sure you've noticed all of the tags at the top of so many articles; these were part of the reason most people seemed to have given up entirely. Don't let me get in the way while you're on a roll though; thanks again for your effort! :) BOZ ( talk) 16:26, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up about faerie fire. -- GentlemanGhost ( talk) 20:21, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
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Hi there. I restored the categories on all the D&D articles that you recently redirected. I find that when browsing a category, it's nice to see articles that have been redirected. That way, if you need to find something under the edit history, it's a lot easier to find. 71.194.32.252 ( talk) 00:17, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
As you have been merging and redirecting deity articles, I will also point out that a number of articles had been redirected in the past due to PROD, or because the notability template remaining too long. Additionally, I had also asked for a number of AFD'ed articles to have their edit histories restored in case someone wanted to merge the content in later. In that spirit, however you might wish to use them, I present: Blibdoolpoolp, Caoimhin, Daragor, Eachthighern, Emmantiensien, Gaknulak, Khurgorbaeyag, Kuraulyek, Maanzecorian, Nathair Sgiathach, Psilofyr, Squerrik, and Verenestra. :) BOZ ( talk) 02:02, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
See there, that wasn't so hard. :) I know I was pretty nervous the first time I tried that, but the results were encouraging. BOZ ( talk) 16:14, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
If you're not entirely sure where to go from here, you could always look to the book Monster Mythology for inspiration. I've removed most of the gods you've already worked with. (note that a number of these are referenced into my first post above):
Gods of the Kobolds: Kurtulmak, Gaknulak
Other Goblinoid Deities: Kuraulyek, Meriadar
Gods of the Underdark (misc): Laduguer, Psilofyr
Gods of the Beholders: Great Mother. Gzemnid
The Interloper Gods: Vaprak, Gorellik
Gods of the Seas and Skies: Eadro, Jazirian, Koriel, Panzuriel, Persana, Quorlinn, Remnis, Sekolah, Surminare, Syranita, Trishina, Water Lion, Stillsong
Gods of the Scaly Folk: Blibdoolpoolp, Laogzed, Merrshaulk, Parrafaire, Ramenos, Semuanya, Shekinester
Gods of the Dark Folk: Cegilune, Kanchelsis, Mellifleur, Squerrik, Balador, Ferrix, Daragor, Eshebala
The Sylvan Gods: Titania, Oberon, Caoimhin, Damh, Eachthighern, Emmantiensien, Fionnghuala, Nathair Sgiathach, Skerrit, Squelaiche, Verenestra, Queen of Air and Darkness
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You'll find this useful for identifying sources. :) I have used it extensively when adding the publication history sections to monster articles. There is probably an updated one, but this at least goes to the end of 3.5 and it may go even further by now. BOZ ( talk) 21:26, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Heya. :) I resurrected Half-elf (Dungeons & Dragons) for what it's worth, if you want to do anything with that. BOZ ( talk) 19:03, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Wow, Faerie dragon sure was a crappy little article. ;) See if you can make any use of that... BOZ ( talk) 15:51, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
-Removed indent-Oh... that's interesting. I hadn't known about that. Well, if he does come back we'll just have to continue to fight any unproductive modifications that he might make by trying to enhance articles or explaining why certain tags don't make sense (I just found today a -Who?- tag in a sentence that didn't refer to a single creature or person, for example). I think that it should also be easier to handle in the compilation articles than it was in all of the shorter articles. - Drilnoth ( talk) 20:16, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Yep, I'm aware it's around, seeing as I created it! :D That said, I have not been active for several reasons, mainly that I no longer play D&D and that I had a philosophy disagreement with everyone else in that I think no monsters meet WP:Notability, at all. I think the entire thing is a giant pile of bloated fancruft, and though combating that was one of the reasons it was created, thanks to a policy which is probably too broad to be helpful, it became more of a place for people to circlejerk over what new fancruft to add to Wikipedia.
Good luck though! Piuro ( talk) 23:06, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey man. :) I know you're busy, but since you play both D&D and M:tG according to your user page, I was wondering if there is anything you can do to help me improve Wizards of the Coast in my GA drive, it would be much appreciated. BOZ ( talk) 23:45, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
-Removed indent-Great! So what article will we try to get to GA next? - Drilnoth ( talk) 19:48, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey there. :) If you ever wanted to create a page of Forgotten Realms characters, as you've been doing with deities and monsters, there were a lot of them deleted. In fact, it was those pages getting deleted that I knew was the first sign we might be in trouble. You're busy at the moment, but keep this idea in the back of your head. I can compile a more complete list, but here are a few that I kept track of for starters: Arilyn Moonblade, Danilo Thann (edit history deleted), Dragonbait (edit history deleted), Fzoul Chembryl, Ityak-Ortheel, Kezef the Chaos Hound, Laeral Silverhand, Manshoon, Olive Ruskettle, Storm Silverhand, Szass Tam, Vangerdahast. BOZ ( talk) 16:31, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for [2]. Calvin 1998 ( t· c) 00:38, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Uh yes, thank you for undoing a copyright violation removal. I have know removed it again. Alientraveller ( talk) 18:36, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Check the talk page for this article for the reasoning for the inclusion of the neutrality tag in the articleissues template that was updated to reflect the multiple problems with this article. It is always best to check the talk page and make sure to add a section to the talk page for any article in which a new tag is added, prior to removing to make sure all editors have a chance to discuss a new tag or the removal of a tag so as not to cause edit wars in an article. shadzar- talk 20:57, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
I userfied and moved it to User:Drilnoth/Adventures in Blackmoor to preserve teh page history. If it can be made notable in its own right, then it can go back into userpsace, or have a look and see if it is more suited to a series or something. Cheers, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 23:21, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey, thanks so much for all your work on all of the D&D articles! Web Warlock ( talk) 18:11, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
LOL, no problem. :) And try not to burn yourself out on unproductive arguments like so many others have in the past. Wikipedia has a very specific dispute resolution process. You have stated your case, as have numerous other editors (see the documentation on the mediation case), and have reported your findings to others. If the problem persists, we have Third Opinions, RfCs, and then ultimately ArbCom. If I told you I never expected Gavin's case to go that far, I'd be lying; everything else is only delaying the inevitable, but that is the course we must follow for now. BOZ ( talk) 18:34, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Heh. :) I love the smell of chaos in the morning! Gets the blood boiling... maybe the real reason that people stopped editing D&D pages is because without Gavin there was no conflict. ;) BOZ ( talk) 13:25, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I reverted your addition of the fact tag on the D&D article. The Simon piece was cited and is an actual paper written in the 80s. It's also supportive of D&D so I'm not sure why you removed it, perhaps you meant to remove another piece? Ethan a dawe ( talk) 13:48, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey, awesome! Good luck with that process. I let the folks on the comics project know that you picked it up. You could have a chat with User:Jclemens, who did the EGG and WotC reviews, if you need some advice - he's done at least a couple dozen already. :) BOZ ( talk) 15:52, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Thought you might find this funny. [3] shadzar- talk 17:31, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
-Cross posted from
User talk:RJHall-
Thanks for adding in that ref to a bunch of articles; any reliable secondary sources we can get are good, and books are even harder to come by then web pages! -
Drilnoth (
talk) 18:33, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for reviewing that article. I'm not finished with the concerns, but I will notify you when I'm done. Thanks. Wildroot ( talk) 23:32, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Also, I just barely finished with the re-editing of the Plot section for Batman & Robin. I think that's ready for GA-status as well. Wildroot ( talk) 16:57, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey there. I was under the impression that we were keeping track of redirected pages via having {{ D&D}} on the page. I noticed that yesterday, Craw-Daddy had deleted a number of such talk pages I'd created. I've been trying to locate pages to apply the project, including redirects, but I'd rather not waste my time on that if it's going to be undone. I guess my question to you is, are these useful in any way? The ones that got deleted seemed to be only on pure redirects (as opposed to redirected articles) where the page had been moved and a redirect left in its place. Are there only some redirects we'd really want to keep track of? Let me know before I continue. Thanks! 71.194.32.252 ( talk) 14:10, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
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On an unrelated note, having {{D&D|class=redirect}} is sufficient, as this automatically adds the page into the "NA-importance" category, so {{D&D|class=redirect|importance=NA}} contains a redundant "importance=NA" tag. Just thought you should know to save yourself some typing. --Craw-daddy | T | 15:35, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey, here's another template: {{ D20}}. 71.194.32.252 ( talk) 22:31, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I restored the history of the Pharaun Mizzrym article, behind a redirect to War of the Spider Queen#Characters (like you suggested on ^demon's talkpage). The most recent version of the history is at [4]. - Bobet 11:07, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Since it seems there is little to do in this war that is being thrown at people, just find the proper warning, and place on the user's talk page and revert the vandalism accordingly for each occurrence (as was done with Ansalon). Each tag contains some information, but the user's failure to address the specific concerns that were the reason for placing the tag, in the placing editor's opinion, on the talk page of the articles in which the tags are placed means either of a few things, one of which could be seen directly as vandalism and/or disruptive editing. shadzar- talk 23:07, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
~remove indent~ User_talk:134.139.148.100 is where I saw mention of WP:SPA so don't think it will help that much from an IP account that may just be a sockpuppet or SPA itself...so don't know much if anything in WP:SPA is relavent or not. As I tell BOZ, I am just a research monkey, so read the things I find and make your own conclusions as to whether or not they are of any use as I also don't know much about procedures around here other than working with consensus, even if you guys want to merge DM -> GM, and it just don't feel right to me. =P shadzar- talk 02:15, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
~undent~ WP:OWN? "I realy need citations with footnotes; vague references which don't support the text of this article won't do." shadzar- talk 00:37, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
~undent~ AN/I closed/archived by bot, current location shadzar- talk 03:36, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Following your post to my talk page regarding deletion of the D&D Module redirect talk pages, the user who had requested deletion recreated all of them. I have posted at my talk page why they are utterly useless and should stay (and new be re-) deleted. I am inclined to delete them all again. Please advise why and how these talk pages of redirects that existed for one day total could ever be useful.-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 19:52, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for the C-rating. ;) I'm trying to fill in some blanks here and there, and 2nd edition stuff is often woefully underrepresented.
Today, I'm going to make an effort into working on the Ravenloft module article. I'm taking a short break first, though. :) BOZ ( talk) 17:39, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Hello again. Would you be interested in copyediting the article Ralph Bakshi? It is currently up for featured article candidacy. ( Ibaranoff24 ( talk) 11:52, 30 November 2008 (UTC))
Hey, did I ever point out my first barnstar to you? ;) BOZ ( talk) 04:39, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing out the WT:FICT discussion; I'd noticed it earlier. As for the RFC/U, I'm not sure how the barnstar could really be made to fit into it, both because it was given so long ago and because it seems to be a (mostly) isolated incident of WP:SIRH. If you can find a way to work it in, though, please do. - Drilnoth ( talk) 13:32, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
OK, looking at the current version, I have to point out some items that we should consider either removing or using in a different way. I take the "Evidence of disputed behavior" section to be a list of things that the person shouldn't be doing, rather than suspicious or borderline questionable stuff. Items #3, 6, 9, 11-13 are interesting, but I don't see how they belong in this section - perhaps there is somewhere else we can use them? The diffs under #8 seem kind of weak, so not sure; we could use stronger examples of ignoring consensus. We could also use some diffs that illustrate edit warring over templates, so I'll try to look for those. Items #10 and 15 I guess we can keep, but since those are content disputes rather than conduct disputes, I would make sure you have the most concrete examples possible and toss any weaker or questionable ones. 16:47, 5 December 2008 (UTC) (previous comment by BOZ. - Drilnoth ( talk) 16:49, 5 December 2008 (UTC))
OK, I'm done with what I wanted to do regarding the setup. I could go on and on looking, but this is RFC not ArbCom. I say fire it off whenever you feel it's ready. One admonishment I would make is that you try to find more recent late-November early-December diffs for the "Evidence of failing to resolve the dispute" to show that not only was he still talking the same talk, but walking the same walk. You know, diffs of him adding the notability template where we have the importance and/or primarysources, etc, that sort of thing. Shouldn't be too hard since you'll be focusing on the last couple hundred edits or so. Other than that, not sure we need anything else. BOZ ( talk) 21:17, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for all your work in cleaning up/consolidating the goblinoid deities. I spent some time a while ago trying to track down source books and enter all the details, but eventually got disheartened by all the notability tagging going on. It's such an easy way to vandalize a page without having to justify the tag. The argument could be made that many Wiki articles don't fulfill the exact requirements for notability (e.g. this or this), but it seems that some people have specifically singled out D&D articles. Anyway, good job! Maglubiyet ( talk) 22:56, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Remember, calm, reasoned, rational. Read it a few times, then respond later. ;) A quick, visceral response feels good, but looks bad. BOZ ( talk) 23:48, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
I should have checked back sooner, but if you haven't seen it already: [7] BOZ ( talk) 02:01, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Alright. Thanks for letting me know, then I won't make the same mistake twice.— Dæ dαlus Contribs 15:24, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey there, just a note; when you see the monster names pluralized or not pluralized in the monster lists, that is intentional. I tried to write the names as written in the product in question, rather than how they may be commonly known. So, when Orc is written as "Orcs" for the White Box, that's because all the monster names there were pluralized. BOZ ( talk) 17:55, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey, my first Barnstar. Cool. Thanks. Vulcan's Forge ( talk) 01:43, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
I set up Flanaess and merged a few of the already-redirected articles into it. I didn't link to every article that should probably be linked to it, but I'll probably come back and hit that at some point.
My next goal is to make List of Forgotten Realms characters look more like List of major Dragonlance characters. :) I'll get started on that in a little while. BOZ ( talk) 02:35, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
I added a note over on the discussion page for Demodand that might help that particular article. You've been making a bunch of contributions to random D&D articles of late (which makes you awesome) so I figured that I might mention it to someone capable of editing the article (I'd do it myself, but per that note on the discussion page, it might cause a tempest over perceived COI that one or two editors might jump on in a fit of wikilawyering). Shemeska ( talk) 02:53, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Just a quick note - keep an eye on this thread and this thread. If you need me to ask/mention anything there, let me know. :) BOZ ( talk) 07:53, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
-removed indent-Thanks for the offer, but I think that any additional images would have to be free (i.e. not of the products themselves). Take a look at the FAC review for more information about the images... the article used to have a lot more images, but the fair-use rationales didn't work. - Drilnoth ( talk) 13:03, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Neat! That's a really cool idea. There's got to be a way to get a bot to do it (I sure wouldn't expect anyone to do that by hand for more than a few articles, and even then) but that's a damn cool idea. The original boxed set is actually getting more hits than I expected. ;) BOZ ( talk) 20:24, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
I got tired of looking, but I found a couple more 7000+ hits articles: Raistlin Majere, and Dungeons & Dragons (TV series). You really do need to see if there's a bot you can run - maybe filter the whole watchlist into the thing and see what comes up where! BOZ ( talk) 04:55, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Do you know if there might be something wrong with the redirect category? I recently added Talk:The Knights of Myth Drannor Trilogy and Talk:The Parched Sea but they don't quite look right to me. :) BOZ ( talk) 23:33, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey there, did you see my latest comment? :) BOZ ( talk) 23:48, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Well, about all I can say is that we should focus as much as possible on known reliable sources. How about that Game Inventor's Guidebook - I'd milk that for as much as you can, as with any print source you might have access to. Where possible, we should replace cites from longbio and any sites of unproven reliability with cites from known reliable sources. I know I added a lot of longbio stuff today, but I just wanted to get that in there and we can worry about swapping out sources later. :) (see the article talk page for a bunch of additional stuff.) I'm going to look over the WotC website links and the obits because those might be some of the most reliable stuff we've got, and make sure they are as maxed out as they can be. Most of the other sources I've used have been questioned, but that doesn't mean they are necessarily unreliable, just uncertain. BOZ ( talk) 02:44, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Don't be discouraged if this doesn't make it on the first try. Dungeons & Dragons didn't make it until try #5. :) BOZ ( talk) 21:32, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I've been busy tonight... just wait until you see. :) BOZ ( talk) 04:57, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Regarding Kyngdoms, did you see the note I placed on the FAC page? BOZ ( talk) 20:54, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey. I went and added a bunch of citations to info in the Believer mag article. I really didn't add anything from it, except a few incidentals and some rearrangement, but figured it wouldn't hurt to back up things already in there with something that agrees. :) Feel free to remove any of those cites which seem like too much. I did use the source to add information to a bunch of other articles, which I figure wouldn't be hurting anything. A shame that they didn't want to consider that a reliable source, as it is very detailed in places, and includes a unique feature: most of the time, you see Gygax talking about Williams and Blume and getting only his POV, but this guy actually went and found them to hear at least part of their side of the story. I'm done for the night - Merry Christmas. :) Don't know when I'll be on tomorrow, but Friday is another story. ;) BOZ ( talk) 05:44, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for your message. I know the basics about wikis and editing, not a problem. But I have to admit that I don't know how to make a good profile for myself. If I can join the D&D projects, I am resolutely a classic D&D player: I play BEMC and RC rules almost exclusively, and am mostly interested in pre 3e stuff. So I'm not sure exactly where to start. C-Blade ( talk) 03:07, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Is there a place we can list what resources we have access to in case people have questions or need references? For example, I have the Cyclopedia, and I'd be happy to help someone out if they needed me to look up a reference. C-Blade ( talk) 03:10, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Howdy! Thanks for reviewing Lynn de Silva! I've been waiting quite some time for a review, and I'm glad the article finally got one :-). I'm wondering why it was rated C-class though, as it seems to me to fit all the B-class criteria. It's been thoroughly referenced, too. Thanks for your time! Ldesilva ( talk) 22:25, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey there. I think I have found most of the non-merged FR-locations that had been simply redirected without merging. Regardless, I'm tired of all the warnings (some of them seemingly misplaced and confusing) on my talk page regarding that (especially after the last couple of days), so I've been thinking about it and I don't want to bother bringing any more back, and maybe shouldn't have done that many as it is. I merged a few of them into Abeir-Toril to beef that article up a bit. I think a lot of them should probably be merged into somewhere appropriate, but I'm not sure where. Faerûn seems inappropriate, as that would overly bloat the article, and Geographical index of Toril likewise. There were some regional articles previoulsy, but those got redirected as well, and some still are (namely Northwest Faerûn, North Faerûn, Northeast Faerûn, West Faerûn, Interior Faerûn, East Faerûn, Southwest Faerûn, South Faerûn, and Southeast Faerûn), so that may not be the way to go either. Maybe create some lists like List of Forgotten Realms locations (or just Forgotten Realms locations), List of Forgotten Realms cities, or something like that? Let me know what you think and I'll work with you on whatever might be most appropriate. 71.194.32.252 ( talk) 04:52, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm going to take a look around at what articles and redirects there are, and see if I can map out a plan for consolidating this stuff. BOZ ( talk) 18:22, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! If you'd be willing to start up List of Forgotten Realms cities and List of Forgotten Realms nations, I'd be more than happy to start merging articles into the lists with a quickness. 71.194.32.252 ( talk) 00:48, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
I'll start the cities list in the fairly near future. BOZ ( talk) 17:03, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
I've put about as much work into that as I care to. :) I'll get back to sourcing tomorrow (when I'm not too busy Christmasing). FYI: [9]. BOZ ( talk) 06:03, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
That was a good catch! Maybe we should get a list going of fictional elements (characters mainly, but I don't doubt that other types of fictional elements have gone through, like Spoo) which are at FA level, so we can see what examples we can point to for quality level. Off the top of my head, Batman and Superman were both there, as were Homer Simpson and Bart Simpson - even Troy McClure. :) Note that, of course, not all FA's have been on the front page yet. Maybe one day Drizzt Do'Urden, Strahd von Zarovich, Lolth or Lord Soth will join them. ;) BOZ ( talk) 17:00, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Just a note, not sure if you noticed my reply... - Adolphus ( talk) 03:36, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
I took a look at the anon who you warned, and noticed that the anon had mostly been adding PRODs, speedies, and notability templates to articles which had been created within the last 24 hours - so new articles are precisely what they are targetting! BOZ ( talk) 17:49, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey! :) See my recent comments on the talk page. BOZ ( talk) 04:59, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
I would strongly advise against pointing out policy to Hrafn in AfD discussions--he has his own interpretations, which are generally not community-supported when they diverge from actual consensus. In my experience, such has never resulted in Hrafn changing his position--attempting to win him over has, in my experience, at best resulted in him failing to acknowledge such arguments or attempting to shift the burden of proof; at worst, it's a recipe for frustration and may prompt you to lose your cool. My experience-prompted advice is to simply not respond to Hrafn in AfD discussions. Jclemens ( talk) 22:11, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Any thoughts? :) BOZ ( talk) 17:01, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Here you go:
I10, Ravenloft II: The House on Gryphon Hill
Hickman, Hickman, Cook, Grubb, Johnson and Niles, artwork by Caldwell and Easley
Scenario for character levels 10–12, sequel to I6, Ravenloft. Gang written just before deadline by the whole TSR design staff. The vampire Strahd returns in a gothic adventure of Thing Man Was Not Meant to Know. Includes descriptions of the town of Mordentshire, some haunted moors, and a manor house, mapped in perspective.
004-484.1/900-86 48 p., large color map, outer folder. TSR, 1986.
From page 102 of Schick (1991).— RJH ( talk) 00:48, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
It got a whole lot of looks while it was up for AFD. :) I'm going to check out a few more articles for the Article Hits page. See the talk page for some notes I added. BOZ ( talk) 03:22, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Here is one to keep an eye on - think of it as the opposite end of the spectrum from Gavin. I'm considering tossing up an outside view after enough people have signed off on naughty Pixel. ;) BOZ ( talk) 18:30, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Treant for the rationale behind why I changed the redirect. The intent was not to suggest it's simply a ripoff of Tolkien's Ents; rather, I wanted a place where discussion of the topic could take place without seeming out of place. Paliku ( talk) 00:50, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
The article Dragons of Despair you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . It hasn't failed because it's basically a good article, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Dragons of Despair for things needed to be addressed.
Update: [13] BOZ ( talk) 06:03, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Thank you once again for the welcome. Several days ago I filed the Avlis article, spanning the namesake campaign setting and Neverwinter Nights persistent world, for reassessment within the Video Games WikiProject. I got a fairly helpful reassessment. Where do I request reassessment for the Dungeons&Dragons WikiProject as well? In this very case it is more a matter of synchronizing its standing in both projects, before reworking the article. -- VoidHamlet ( talk) 17:13, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Just so you know, I added several refs tonight that I found from other articles. If any turn out to be unreliable, you may remove them. BOZ ( talk) 03:00, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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Just a quick off-topic comment... so much for the notability template not being a ticking timebomb for deletion; User:B. Wolterding is PRODding/AFDing all the Sept-Oct 2007 notability templated articles one by one. BOZ ( talk) 03:46, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
I don't often participate in policy discussions, but... BOZ ( talk) 19:42, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
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Not at all. I keep an eye on most of them, but I am on indefinite wikibreak, so it makes sense to remove those templates. -- ReyBrujo ( talk) 03:28, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for reviewing Percy Shaw Jeffrey (you gave it a C). If you had a minute, would you mind giving a few pointers on getting it to B class? I pretty much wrote the article single-handed, so it would be great to have a fresh pair of eyes look over it. Cheers! - Jarry1250 ( t, c) 16:44, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
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