Please do not add commentary or your own
personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to
Human rights in the United States. Doing so violates Wikipedia's
neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you.
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IV
17:14, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
@ Ymblanter:Your answer perfectly illustrates my point. You do not address the issue. Instead, you accuse me of edit warring and reiterate your unsubstantiated and false accusations against me. For my part, I would prefer to work collaboratively. So, once again, could you tell me why you think "told" is less appropriate than "revealed" which, according to WP:CLAIM should be used with extra care? Againstdisinformation ( talk) 19:40, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
@ Ymblanter:'reported' is loaded too. How about "According to a 2010 report by 'The Independent', RT journalists have said that coverage..."? This seems to me to be a neutral formulation. Againstdisinformation ( talk) 21:21, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
Toddy1 has given you a Pork pie. Pork pies are full of meaty goodness, and are wonderfully delicious! On Wikipedia, they promote love and sincerity. Hopefully, this one has made your day happier.
For your good work at Talk:Yulia Tymoshenko/Archive 1#Allegations of torture
in his own article
Spread the goodness and sincerity of pork pies by adding {{
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Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely
Ils ne sont grands que parce que nous sommes à genoux
Überzeugungen sind gefährlichere Feinde der Wahrheit, als Lügen
Friedrich Nietzsche
Все знают и все понимают только дураки и шарлатаны
Анто́н Па́влович Че́хов
Panem et Circenses
ἀπὸ τοῦ ἡλίου μετάστηθι
¿Qué es la vida? Un frenesí. ¿Qué es la vida? Una ilusión, una sombra, una ficción; y el mayor bien es pequeño; que toda la vida es sueño, y los sueños, sueños son.
Sans la liberté de blâmer, il n'est point d'éloge flatteur
Castigat ridendo mores
Wir müssen wissen, wir werden wissen
Όποιος από σας είναι αναμάρτητος, ας ρίξει πρώτος την πέτρα
La verdad anda sobre la mentira como el aceite sobre el agua
Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none
Sensual passions are your first enemy
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen
Die Schrift ist unveränderlich und die Meinungen sind oft nur ein Ausdruck der Verzweiflung darüber
If you search for the laws of harmony, you will find knowledge
Luxor Inscriptions
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear
Der bestirnte Himmel über mir und das moralische Gesetz in mir
La Biblioteca es una esfera cuyo centro cabal es cualquier hexágono, cuya circunferencia es inaccesible
Die Frau war Gottes zweiter Fehler
言既出,驷马难追 (A word spoken can never be taken back)
unknown
Raffiniert ist der Herrgott, aber boshaft ist er nicht
He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know
Сарказм - последнее прибежище порядочных людей, когда к ним лезут в душу
Ουαί εις εσάς, γραμματείς και Φαρισαίοι υποκριταί, διότι ομοιάζετε με τάφους ασβεστωμένους, οίτινες έξωθεν μεν φαίνονται ωραίοι, έσωθεν όμως γέμουσιν οστέων νεκρών και πάσης ακαθαρσίας
Homo sum, et humani nihil a me alienum puto
N’a de convictions que celui qui n’a rien approfondi
Sois sage, ô ma douleur, et tiens-toi plus tranquille !
Η μόνη αληθινή σοφία είναι η γνώση οτι δε ξέρεις τίποτα
The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd
Daß etwas schwer ist, muß ein Grund mehr sein, es zu tun
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between
Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather boa!
La justice sans la force est impuissante, la force sans la justice est tyrannique
Wer Wahrheit sucht, der darf nicht die Stimmen zählen
Any man who hates dogs and babies can't be all bad
It's so easy for propaganda to work, and dissent to be mocked
Quand on me contrarie, on éveille mon attention, non pas ma colère
Ανδρών επιφανών πάσα η γη τάφος
Wikipedia is too important to be left to Wikipedians
Un journal doit être l'ouvrage d'une société de savants, sans quoi on remarquera en tout genre les bévues les plus grossières
I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member
Good faith should be assumed as far as possible, but not further
Ό,τι η ψυχή επιθυμεί, αυτό και πιστεύει
Always forgive your enemies - nothing annoys them so much.
Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum
Carpe diem
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.
Qu'importe le flacon, pourvu qu'on ait l'ivresse
All wikipedians are equal, but some wikipedians are more equal than others
Eνος ατοπου δοθεντος ταλλα συμβαινει
Le dernier acte est sanglant, quelque belle que soit la comédie en tout le reste; on jette enfin de la terre sur la tête, et en voilà pour jamais
Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas
What do I think of Wikipedia as a free encyclopedia that anyone can edit? I think it would be a very good idea
Ce que peut la vertu d'un homme ne se doit pas mesurer par ses efforts, mais par son ordinaire
I was like a boy playing on the sea-shore, and diverting myself now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me.
Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely
Ils ne sont grands que parce que nous sommes à genoux
Überzeugungen sind gefährlichere Feinde der Wahrheit, als Lügen
Friedrich Nietzsche
Все знают и все понимают только дураки и шарлатаны
Анто́н Па́влович Че́хов
Panem et Circenses
ἀπὸ τοῦ ἡλίου μετάστηθι
¿Qué es la vida? Un frenesí. ¿Qué es la vida? Una ilusión, una sombra, una ficción; y el mayor bien es pequeño; que toda la vida es sueño, y los sueños, sueños son.
Sans la liberté de blâmer, il n'est point d'éloge flatteur
Castigat ridendo mores
Wir müssen wissen, wir werden wissen
Όποιος από σας είναι αναμάρτητος, ας ρίξει πρώτος την πέτρα
La verdad anda sobre la mentira como el aceite sobre el agua
Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none
Sensual passions are your first enemy
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen
Die Schrift ist unveränderlich und die Meinungen sind oft nur ein Ausdruck der Verzweiflung darüber
If you search for the laws of harmony, you will find knowledge
Luxor Inscriptions
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear
Der bestirnte Himmel über mir und das moralische Gesetz in mir
La Biblioteca es una esfera cuyo centro cabal es cualquier hexágono, cuya circunferencia es inaccesible
Die Frau war Gottes zweiter Fehler
言既出,驷马难追 (A word spoken can never be taken back)
unknown
Raffiniert ist der Herrgott, aber boshaft ist er nicht
He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know
Сарказм - последнее прибежище порядочных людей, когда к ним лезут в душу
Ουαί εις εσάς, γραμματείς και Φαρισαίοι υποκριταί, διότι ομοιάζετε με τάφους ασβεστωμένους, οίτινες έξωθεν μεν φαίνονται ωραίοι, έσωθεν όμως γέμουσιν οστέων νεκρών και πάσης ακαθαρσίας
Homo sum, et humani nihil a me alienum puto
N’a de convictions que celui qui n’a rien approfondi
Sois sage, ô ma douleur, et tiens-toi plus tranquille !
Η μόνη αληθινή σοφία είναι η γνώση οτι δε ξέρεις τίποτα
The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd
Daß etwas schwer ist, muß ein Grund mehr sein, es zu tun
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between
Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather boa!
La justice sans la force est impuissante, la force sans la justice est tyrannique
Wer Wahrheit sucht, der darf nicht die Stimmen zählen
Any man who hates dogs and babies can't be all bad
It's so easy for propaganda to work, and dissent to be mocked
Quand on me contrarie, on éveille mon attention, non pas ma colère
Ανδρών επιφανών πάσα η γη τάφος
Wikipedia is too important to be left to Wikipedians
Un journal doit être l'ouvrage d'une société de savants, sans quoi on remarquera en tout genre les bévues les plus grossières
I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member
Good faith should be assumed as far as possible, but not further
Ό,τι η ψυχή επιθυμεί, αυτό και πιστεύει
Always forgive your enemies - nothing annoys them so much.
Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum
Carpe diem
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.
Qu'importe le flacon, pourvu qu'on ait l'ivresse
All wikipedians are equal, but some wikipedians are more equal than others
Eνος ατοπου δοθεντος ταλλα συμβαινει
Le dernier acte est sanglant, quelque belle que soit la comédie en tout le reste; on jette enfin de la terre sur la tête, et en voilà pour jamais
Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas
What do I think of Wikipedia as a free encyclopedia that anyone can edit? I think it would be a very good idea
Ce que peut la vertu d'un homme ne se doit pas mesurer par ses efforts, mais par son ordinaire
I was like a boy playing on the sea-shore, and diverting myself now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me.
If you want to discuss Wikipedia, this is the place. In a few months, I shall post here the findings of a study I made about its modus operandi. Γνῶθι σεαυτόν ( talk) 20:58, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
Please do not add commentary or your own
personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to
Human rights in the United States. Doing so violates Wikipedia's
neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you.
Scr★pIron
IV
17:14, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
@ Ymblanter:Your answer perfectly illustrates my point. You do not address the issue. Instead, you accuse me of edit warring and reiterate your unsubstantiated and false accusations against me. For my part, I would prefer to work collaboratively. So, once again, could you tell me why you think "told" is less appropriate than "revealed" which, according to WP:CLAIM should be used with extra care? Againstdisinformation ( talk) 19:40, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
@ Ymblanter:'reported' is loaded too. How about "According to a 2010 report by 'The Independent', RT journalists have said that coverage..."? This seems to me to be a neutral formulation. Againstdisinformation ( talk) 21:21, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
Toddy1 has given you a Pork pie. Pork pies are full of meaty goodness, and are wonderfully delicious! On Wikipedia, they promote love and sincerity. Hopefully, this one has made your day happier.
For your good work at Talk:Yulia Tymoshenko/Archive 1#Allegations of torture
in his own article
Spread the goodness and sincerity of pork pies by adding {{
subst:Pork Pie}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message! Give one to someone you've had disagreements with in the past, or to a good friend.
Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely
Ils ne sont grands que parce que nous sommes à genoux
Überzeugungen sind gefährlichere Feinde der Wahrheit, als Lügen
Friedrich Nietzsche
Все знают и все понимают только дураки и шарлатаны
Анто́н Па́влович Че́хов
Panem et Circenses
ἀπὸ τοῦ ἡλίου μετάστηθι
¿Qué es la vida? Un frenesí. ¿Qué es la vida? Una ilusión, una sombra, una ficción; y el mayor bien es pequeño; que toda la vida es sueño, y los sueños, sueños son.
Sans la liberté de blâmer, il n'est point d'éloge flatteur
Castigat ridendo mores
Wir müssen wissen, wir werden wissen
Όποιος από σας είναι αναμάρτητος, ας ρίξει πρώτος την πέτρα
La verdad anda sobre la mentira como el aceite sobre el agua
Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none
Sensual passions are your first enemy
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen
Die Schrift ist unveränderlich und die Meinungen sind oft nur ein Ausdruck der Verzweiflung darüber
If you search for the laws of harmony, you will find knowledge
Luxor Inscriptions
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear
Der bestirnte Himmel über mir und das moralische Gesetz in mir
La Biblioteca es una esfera cuyo centro cabal es cualquier hexágono, cuya circunferencia es inaccesible
Die Frau war Gottes zweiter Fehler
言既出,驷马难追 (A word spoken can never be taken back)
unknown
Raffiniert ist der Herrgott, aber boshaft ist er nicht
He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know
Сарказм - последнее прибежище порядочных людей, когда к ним лезут в душу
Ουαί εις εσάς, γραμματείς και Φαρισαίοι υποκριταί, διότι ομοιάζετε με τάφους ασβεστωμένους, οίτινες έξωθεν μεν φαίνονται ωραίοι, έσωθεν όμως γέμουσιν οστέων νεκρών και πάσης ακαθαρσίας
Homo sum, et humani nihil a me alienum puto
N’a de convictions que celui qui n’a rien approfondi
Sois sage, ô ma douleur, et tiens-toi plus tranquille !
Η μόνη αληθινή σοφία είναι η γνώση οτι δε ξέρεις τίποτα
The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd
Daß etwas schwer ist, muß ein Grund mehr sein, es zu tun
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between
Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather boa!
La justice sans la force est impuissante, la force sans la justice est tyrannique
Wer Wahrheit sucht, der darf nicht die Stimmen zählen
Any man who hates dogs and babies can't be all bad
It's so easy for propaganda to work, and dissent to be mocked
Quand on me contrarie, on éveille mon attention, non pas ma colère
Ανδρών επιφανών πάσα η γη τάφος
Wikipedia is too important to be left to Wikipedians
Un journal doit être l'ouvrage d'une société de savants, sans quoi on remarquera en tout genre les bévues les plus grossières
I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member
Good faith should be assumed as far as possible, but not further
Ό,τι η ψυχή επιθυμεί, αυτό και πιστεύει
Always forgive your enemies - nothing annoys them so much.
Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum
Carpe diem
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.
Qu'importe le flacon, pourvu qu'on ait l'ivresse
All wikipedians are equal, but some wikipedians are more equal than others
Eνος ατοπου δοθεντος ταλλα συμβαινει
Le dernier acte est sanglant, quelque belle que soit la comédie en tout le reste; on jette enfin de la terre sur la tête, et en voilà pour jamais
Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas
What do I think of Wikipedia as a free encyclopedia that anyone can edit? I think it would be a very good idea
Ce que peut la vertu d'un homme ne se doit pas mesurer par ses efforts, mais par son ordinaire
I was like a boy playing on the sea-shore, and diverting myself now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me.
Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely
Ils ne sont grands que parce que nous sommes à genoux
Überzeugungen sind gefährlichere Feinde der Wahrheit, als Lügen
Friedrich Nietzsche
Все знают и все понимают только дураки и шарлатаны
Анто́н Па́влович Че́хов
Panem et Circenses
ἀπὸ τοῦ ἡλίου μετάστηθι
¿Qué es la vida? Un frenesí. ¿Qué es la vida? Una ilusión, una sombra, una ficción; y el mayor bien es pequeño; que toda la vida es sueño, y los sueños, sueños son.
Sans la liberté de blâmer, il n'est point d'éloge flatteur
Castigat ridendo mores
Wir müssen wissen, wir werden wissen
Όποιος από σας είναι αναμάρτητος, ας ρίξει πρώτος την πέτρα
La verdad anda sobre la mentira como el aceite sobre el agua
Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none
Sensual passions are your first enemy
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen
Die Schrift ist unveränderlich und die Meinungen sind oft nur ein Ausdruck der Verzweiflung darüber
If you search for the laws of harmony, you will find knowledge
Luxor Inscriptions
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear
Der bestirnte Himmel über mir und das moralische Gesetz in mir
La Biblioteca es una esfera cuyo centro cabal es cualquier hexágono, cuya circunferencia es inaccesible
Die Frau war Gottes zweiter Fehler
言既出,驷马难追 (A word spoken can never be taken back)
unknown
Raffiniert ist der Herrgott, aber boshaft ist er nicht
He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know
Сарказм - последнее прибежище порядочных людей, когда к ним лезут в душу
Ουαί εις εσάς, γραμματείς και Φαρισαίοι υποκριταί, διότι ομοιάζετε με τάφους ασβεστωμένους, οίτινες έξωθεν μεν φαίνονται ωραίοι, έσωθεν όμως γέμουσιν οστέων νεκρών και πάσης ακαθαρσίας
Homo sum, et humani nihil a me alienum puto
N’a de convictions que celui qui n’a rien approfondi
Sois sage, ô ma douleur, et tiens-toi plus tranquille !
Η μόνη αληθινή σοφία είναι η γνώση οτι δε ξέρεις τίποτα
The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd
Daß etwas schwer ist, muß ein Grund mehr sein, es zu tun
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between
Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather boa!
La justice sans la force est impuissante, la force sans la justice est tyrannique
Wer Wahrheit sucht, der darf nicht die Stimmen zählen
Any man who hates dogs and babies can't be all bad
It's so easy for propaganda to work, and dissent to be mocked
Quand on me contrarie, on éveille mon attention, non pas ma colère
Ανδρών επιφανών πάσα η γη τάφος
Wikipedia is too important to be left to Wikipedians
Un journal doit être l'ouvrage d'une société de savants, sans quoi on remarquera en tout genre les bévues les plus grossières
I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member
Good faith should be assumed as far as possible, but not further
Ό,τι η ψυχή επιθυμεί, αυτό και πιστεύει
Always forgive your enemies - nothing annoys them so much.
Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum
Carpe diem
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.
Qu'importe le flacon, pourvu qu'on ait l'ivresse
All wikipedians are equal, but some wikipedians are more equal than others
Eνος ατοπου δοθεντος ταλλα συμβαινει
Le dernier acte est sanglant, quelque belle que soit la comédie en tout le reste; on jette enfin de la terre sur la tête, et en voilà pour jamais
Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas
What do I think of Wikipedia as a free encyclopedia that anyone can edit? I think it would be a very good idea
Ce que peut la vertu d'un homme ne se doit pas mesurer par ses efforts, mais par son ordinaire
I was like a boy playing on the sea-shore, and diverting myself now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me.
If you want to discuss Wikipedia, this is the place. In a few months, I shall post here the findings of a study I made about its modus operandi. Γνῶθι σεαυτόν ( talk) 20:58, 5 February 2016 (UTC)