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Sall Grover
NationalityAustralian
Alma mater Bond University
Occupation(s)Journalist, writer, app developer
Known forGiggle, a women's only social media app

Sall Grover is an Australian businesswoman and the founder of Giggle, [1] a social media app designed for women. Prior to this endeavour, Grover worked in the American film industry as a scriptwriter. [2] The app gained notability following a legal challenge concerning the legality of the app's membership policies that restrict access to females. [3] [4] [5]

Education and early career

Grover grew up on the Gold Coast, doing her undergraduate and post-graduate work in journalism and philosophy at at Bond University. [6] [7] From there she worked as an entertainment journalist—first in Australia, then the UK—before moving to Los Angeles to begin work as a screenwriter. [8] Here she teamed up with Emma Jensen, a fellow Australian expat, to publish a novel The LA Team, which was later optioned by Working Title Films. [8] [9] In interview, Grover has said the scripts were mostly romantic comedies with strong, independent female leads, "who realise they don't need a man." [10] [11] [12]

Giggle App

After returning to Australia in 2020, Grover founded Giggle, a mobile app for women only. [13] [14] The app is described as catering to adult women, offering a safe online space for them to connect and find support in various areas such as finding roommates, freelancing, emotional support, and activism. [15] [16] Grover has said she was driven to develop a women's only digital platform by her desire to guard against the advances of predatory men, a view that was informed by her experience with misogyny and sexual violence. [17] [18] To verify users, the app relied on technology developed by Kairos, a company that offers facial recognition software. [17] [19] The name, which is the collective noun for women, came out of a conversation with her mother. [20]

Legal case

Grover's efforts to create a digital women-only space that excluded transgender women led to the app being criticised by transgender activists and led to legal proceedings to determine the legality of the membership policies used on the platform. [21] [6] The case was brought to the Federal Circuit Court following a complaint raised by Roxanne Tickle, a transgender woman who was denied membership of the site, to the Australian Human Rights Commission. [22] Grover has alleged that transgender activists have sent numerous rape threats and death threats. [23]

Timeline of legal proceedings
  • December 2021: activist Roxanne Tickle filed a complaint with the Australian Human Rights Commission, saying "I believe that I am being discriminated against by being provided with extremely limited functionality of a smart phone app by the app provider compared to that of other users because I am a transgender woman." [24]
  • March 2022: Giggle’s lawyers at the Feminist Legal Clinic responded to the complaint, saying Tickle was “considered male” based on her appearance in the selfie. [24] The demand to apologise and undergo re-education is declined. [6]
  • July 2022: case dropped by Tickle. [10] [16] [25]
  • April 2024: after the case is re-opened by Tickle, Grover is due to appear Federal Court for discrimination. [13]

Responses

In April 2023, the group LGB Alliance Australia published its support for Grover's stance. [26] This support was followed by Women's Forum Australia. [27] Similarly, the group Australian Feminists for Women's Rights published its support for Grover's case. [28] Grover has also received the support of the Coalition of Activist Lesbians (COAL). [29] Grover's initial cause and later case has similarly been reviewed by Meghan Murphy's Feminist Current, [30] FiLiA, [31] Women's Declaration International (WDI), [32] Cambridge Radical Feminists Network, [33] and 4W (standing for Fourth Wave). [18]

Personal life

Grover grew up on the Gold Coast in Queensland, where she returned to begin a family. [34] [14] [15] Following the birth of her daughter in 2022 Grover raised the issue concerning the use of gender neutral language in Medicare forms (swapping a field to "mother's name" for "birthing parent") which had been part of a trial used in three hospitals. [35] As a result, Bill Shorten, Minister for Government Services, reversed the naming policy to its previous position. [36] [37]

See also

References

  1. ^ Also known as Giggle for Girls.
  2. ^ Shanahan, Angela (2022). ["Echoes of Orwell in threat to women’s rights and safety."] The Australian. 2 April 2022. Accessed 31 Mar 2024.
  3. ^ Scheuerman, M. K., Pape, M., & Hanna, A. (2021). Auto-essentialization: Gender in automated facial analysis as extended colonial project. Big Data & Society, 8(2), 20539517211053712.
  4. ^ Thieme, K., Saunders, M. A. S., & Ferreira, L. (2024). From language to algorithm: trans and non-binary identities in research on facial and gender recognition. AI and Ethics, 1-18.
  5. ^ Perrett, Connor (2022). "A social media app just for 'females' intentionally excludes trans women." Business Insider. 24 Jan 2022. Accessed 29 March 2024.
  6. ^ a b c Lever, Cindy (9 July 2022). "'It's been hell': women-only app founder in gender row nightmare". The Australian.
  7. ^ "Bond University August 2011 Newsletter". www.campusdownunder.com. Retrieved 2024-04-08.
  8. ^ a b "The LA Team – US Based Australians Write Novel And Get It Adapted For TV." www.if.com.au. 20 December 2010. Accessed 5 April 2024.
  9. ^ "Sex and the city of angels gets nod." Courier Mail. 17 December 2010. Accessed 5 April 2024.
  10. ^ a b Snowden, Angelica (9 July 2022). "Clash between trans and women's rights". The Australian.
  11. ^ "Sall Grover." IMDb. Accessed 7 April 2024.
  12. ^ "‎Savage Minds: Sall Grover on Apple Podcasts". Apple Podcasts. 1 December 2022. 0 hours 1 minute 15 seconds on. Retrieved 2024-04-08.
  13. ^ a b Shanahan, Angela (6 April 2024). "Giggle case serious test of biological reality of women". The Australian.
  14. ^ a b "Sall Grover". Savage Minds. 1 December 2022. 0 hours 1 minutes 5 seconds.
  15. ^ a b Macpherson, Amber (2020). "Giggle app by Main Beach’s Sall Grover connects women across the world." Gold Coast Bulletin. 22 March 2020. Accessed 28 March 2024.
  16. ^ a b "‎Australiana: "I'll never stop fighting for women" - Sall Grover on Apple Podcasts". Apple Podcasts. 22 June 2023. From 0 hours 1 minute 45 seconds to 0 hours 1 minute 45 seconds to. Retrieved 2024-04-06.
  17. ^ a b Scheuerman, M. K., Pape, M., & Hanna, A. (2021). Auto-essentialization: Gender in automated facial analysis as extended colonial project. Big Data & Society, 8(2), 20539517211053712.
  18. ^ a b Kain, M. K. (2020). "Giggle Founder Sall Grover has Faced Misogyny at Every Turn." 4W. 19 Feb 2020. Accessed 29 March 2024.
  19. ^ Perrett, Connor (2022). "A social media app just for 'females' intentionally excludes trans women." Business Insider. 24 Jan 2022. Accessed 29 March 2024.
  20. ^ "Giggle app by Main Beach's Sall Grover connects women". The Gold Coast Bulletin. 22 March 2020.
  21. ^ Wyatt, Edie (2022). "Tickle vs. Giggle." The Spectator Australia. 4 July 2022. Accessed 28 March 2024.
  22. ^ Australian Associated Press (2022). "Transgender woman sues female only app giggle for girls for alleged discrimination." The Guardian. 31 Dec 2022. Accessed 5 April 2024.
  23. ^ "Why the Giggle app is for females only." Plebity. 10 March 2021. Accessed 1 April 2024.
  24. ^ a b Kelly, Cait; Kurmelovs, Royce (2022-12-31). "Police urge revellers to 'party responsibly' as crowds gather for New Year's Eve – as it happened". the Guardian. ISSN  0261-3077. Retrieved 2024-04-08.
  25. ^ "Roxanne Tickle v Giggle for Girls Pty Ltd & Anor." Federal Court of Australia. 22 November 2023. Accessed 7 April 2024.
  26. ^ Sall Grover's Landmark Case. LGB Alliance Australia. 6 April 2023. Accessed 29 March 2024.
  27. ^ "Australian federal court to hear landmark case on women's sex-based rights." Women's Forum Australia. 27 April 2023. Accessed 5 April 2024.
  28. ^ "Submission to the Federal inquiry on Australia’s Human Rights Framework." Australian Feminists for Women's Rights. Accessed 28 March 2024.
  29. ^ "Support Sal Grover (and lesbians) against Tickle’s revenge." Coalition of Activist Lesbians. 4 April 2024. Accessed 5 April 2024.
  30. ^ Murphy, Meghan (2022) "Sall Grover wanted to create a female-only app." Feminist Current. 6 Nov 2022. Accessed 28 March 2024.
  31. ^ "FiLiA meets Sall Grover." FiLiA. 21 Jan 2021. Accessed 31 Mar 2024.
  32. ^ "WDI Newsletter." Women's Declaration International. 10 Nov 2021. Accessed 1 April 2024.
  33. ^ "In conversation with Sall Grover: Re-Platforming De-Platformed Women." Cambridge Radical Feminists Network. 15 May 2021. Accessed 31 Mar 2024.
  34. ^ Austlit. "Sall Grover | AustLit: Discover Australian Stories". www.austlit.edu.au. Retrieved 2024-04-08.
  35. ^ Blair, Tim (21 July 2022). "Mother's Day in July". The Daily Telegraph (Sydney).
  36. ^ Bourke, Latika (2022). "I was trying to shut down a culture war, Bill Shorten says." Sydney Morning Herald. 25 July 2022. Accessed 5 April 2024.
  37. ^ NCA News Wire (2022). "New mum’s fury over hospital form saying ‘birthing parent’." www.news.com.au. 21 July 2022. Accessed 5 April 2024.
  38. ^ Iveson, K. (2003). Justifying exclusion: The politics of public space and the dispute over access to McIvers ladies' baths, Sydney. Gender, Place and Culture: A Journal of Feminist Geography, 10(3), 215-228.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sall Grover
NationalityAustralian
Alma mater Bond University
Occupation(s)Journalist, writer, app developer
Known forGiggle, a women's only social media app

Sall Grover is an Australian businesswoman and the founder of Giggle, [1] a social media app designed for women. Prior to this endeavour, Grover worked in the American film industry as a scriptwriter. [2] The app gained notability following a legal challenge concerning the legality of the app's membership policies that restrict access to females. [3] [4] [5]

Education and early career

Grover grew up on the Gold Coast, doing her undergraduate and post-graduate work in journalism and philosophy at at Bond University. [6] [7] From there she worked as an entertainment journalist—first in Australia, then the UK—before moving to Los Angeles to begin work as a screenwriter. [8] Here she teamed up with Emma Jensen, a fellow Australian expat, to publish a novel The LA Team, which was later optioned by Working Title Films. [8] [9] In interview, Grover has said the scripts were mostly romantic comedies with strong, independent female leads, "who realise they don't need a man." [10] [11] [12]

Giggle App

After returning to Australia in 2020, Grover founded Giggle, a mobile app for women only. [13] [14] The app is described as catering to adult women, offering a safe online space for them to connect and find support in various areas such as finding roommates, freelancing, emotional support, and activism. [15] [16] Grover has said she was driven to develop a women's only digital platform by her desire to guard against the advances of predatory men, a view that was informed by her experience with misogyny and sexual violence. [17] [18] To verify users, the app relied on technology developed by Kairos, a company that offers facial recognition software. [17] [19] The name, which is the collective noun for women, came out of a conversation with her mother. [20]

Legal case

Grover's efforts to create a digital women-only space that excluded transgender women led to the app being criticised by transgender activists and led to legal proceedings to determine the legality of the membership policies used on the platform. [21] [6] The case was brought to the Federal Circuit Court following a complaint raised by Roxanne Tickle, a transgender woman who was denied membership of the site, to the Australian Human Rights Commission. [22] Grover has alleged that transgender activists have sent numerous rape threats and death threats. [23]

Timeline of legal proceedings
  • December 2021: activist Roxanne Tickle filed a complaint with the Australian Human Rights Commission, saying "I believe that I am being discriminated against by being provided with extremely limited functionality of a smart phone app by the app provider compared to that of other users because I am a transgender woman." [24]
  • March 2022: Giggle’s lawyers at the Feminist Legal Clinic responded to the complaint, saying Tickle was “considered male” based on her appearance in the selfie. [24] The demand to apologise and undergo re-education is declined. [6]
  • July 2022: case dropped by Tickle. [10] [16] [25]
  • April 2024: after the case is re-opened by Tickle, Grover is due to appear Federal Court for discrimination. [13]

Responses

In April 2023, the group LGB Alliance Australia published its support for Grover's stance. [26] This support was followed by Women's Forum Australia. [27] Similarly, the group Australian Feminists for Women's Rights published its support for Grover's case. [28] Grover has also received the support of the Coalition of Activist Lesbians (COAL). [29] Grover's initial cause and later case has similarly been reviewed by Meghan Murphy's Feminist Current, [30] FiLiA, [31] Women's Declaration International (WDI), [32] Cambridge Radical Feminists Network, [33] and 4W (standing for Fourth Wave). [18]

Personal life

Grover grew up on the Gold Coast in Queensland, where she returned to begin a family. [34] [14] [15] Following the birth of her daughter in 2022 Grover raised the issue concerning the use of gender neutral language in Medicare forms (swapping a field to "mother's name" for "birthing parent") which had been part of a trial used in three hospitals. [35] As a result, Bill Shorten, Minister for Government Services, reversed the naming policy to its previous position. [36] [37]

See also

References

  1. ^ Also known as Giggle for Girls.
  2. ^ Shanahan, Angela (2022). ["Echoes of Orwell in threat to women’s rights and safety."] The Australian. 2 April 2022. Accessed 31 Mar 2024.
  3. ^ Scheuerman, M. K., Pape, M., & Hanna, A. (2021). Auto-essentialization: Gender in automated facial analysis as extended colonial project. Big Data & Society, 8(2), 20539517211053712.
  4. ^ Thieme, K., Saunders, M. A. S., & Ferreira, L. (2024). From language to algorithm: trans and non-binary identities in research on facial and gender recognition. AI and Ethics, 1-18.
  5. ^ Perrett, Connor (2022). "A social media app just for 'females' intentionally excludes trans women." Business Insider. 24 Jan 2022. Accessed 29 March 2024.
  6. ^ a b c Lever, Cindy (9 July 2022). "'It's been hell': women-only app founder in gender row nightmare". The Australian.
  7. ^ "Bond University August 2011 Newsletter". www.campusdownunder.com. Retrieved 2024-04-08.
  8. ^ a b "The LA Team – US Based Australians Write Novel And Get It Adapted For TV." www.if.com.au. 20 December 2010. Accessed 5 April 2024.
  9. ^ "Sex and the city of angels gets nod." Courier Mail. 17 December 2010. Accessed 5 April 2024.
  10. ^ a b Snowden, Angelica (9 July 2022). "Clash between trans and women's rights". The Australian.
  11. ^ "Sall Grover." IMDb. Accessed 7 April 2024.
  12. ^ "‎Savage Minds: Sall Grover on Apple Podcasts". Apple Podcasts. 1 December 2022. 0 hours 1 minute 15 seconds on. Retrieved 2024-04-08.
  13. ^ a b Shanahan, Angela (6 April 2024). "Giggle case serious test of biological reality of women". The Australian.
  14. ^ a b "Sall Grover". Savage Minds. 1 December 2022. 0 hours 1 minutes 5 seconds.
  15. ^ a b Macpherson, Amber (2020). "Giggle app by Main Beach’s Sall Grover connects women across the world." Gold Coast Bulletin. 22 March 2020. Accessed 28 March 2024.
  16. ^ a b "‎Australiana: "I'll never stop fighting for women" - Sall Grover on Apple Podcasts". Apple Podcasts. 22 June 2023. From 0 hours 1 minute 45 seconds to 0 hours 1 minute 45 seconds to. Retrieved 2024-04-06.
  17. ^ a b Scheuerman, M. K., Pape, M., & Hanna, A. (2021). Auto-essentialization: Gender in automated facial analysis as extended colonial project. Big Data & Society, 8(2), 20539517211053712.
  18. ^ a b Kain, M. K. (2020). "Giggle Founder Sall Grover has Faced Misogyny at Every Turn." 4W. 19 Feb 2020. Accessed 29 March 2024.
  19. ^ Perrett, Connor (2022). "A social media app just for 'females' intentionally excludes trans women." Business Insider. 24 Jan 2022. Accessed 29 March 2024.
  20. ^ "Giggle app by Main Beach's Sall Grover connects women". The Gold Coast Bulletin. 22 March 2020.
  21. ^ Wyatt, Edie (2022). "Tickle vs. Giggle." The Spectator Australia. 4 July 2022. Accessed 28 March 2024.
  22. ^ Australian Associated Press (2022). "Transgender woman sues female only app giggle for girls for alleged discrimination." The Guardian. 31 Dec 2022. Accessed 5 April 2024.
  23. ^ "Why the Giggle app is for females only." Plebity. 10 March 2021. Accessed 1 April 2024.
  24. ^ a b Kelly, Cait; Kurmelovs, Royce (2022-12-31). "Police urge revellers to 'party responsibly' as crowds gather for New Year's Eve – as it happened". the Guardian. ISSN  0261-3077. Retrieved 2024-04-08.
  25. ^ "Roxanne Tickle v Giggle for Girls Pty Ltd & Anor." Federal Court of Australia. 22 November 2023. Accessed 7 April 2024.
  26. ^ Sall Grover's Landmark Case. LGB Alliance Australia. 6 April 2023. Accessed 29 March 2024.
  27. ^ "Australian federal court to hear landmark case on women's sex-based rights." Women's Forum Australia. 27 April 2023. Accessed 5 April 2024.
  28. ^ "Submission to the Federal inquiry on Australia’s Human Rights Framework." Australian Feminists for Women's Rights. Accessed 28 March 2024.
  29. ^ "Support Sal Grover (and lesbians) against Tickle’s revenge." Coalition of Activist Lesbians. 4 April 2024. Accessed 5 April 2024.
  30. ^ Murphy, Meghan (2022) "Sall Grover wanted to create a female-only app." Feminist Current. 6 Nov 2022. Accessed 28 March 2024.
  31. ^ "FiLiA meets Sall Grover." FiLiA. 21 Jan 2021. Accessed 31 Mar 2024.
  32. ^ "WDI Newsletter." Women's Declaration International. 10 Nov 2021. Accessed 1 April 2024.
  33. ^ "In conversation with Sall Grover: Re-Platforming De-Platformed Women." Cambridge Radical Feminists Network. 15 May 2021. Accessed 31 Mar 2024.
  34. ^ Austlit. "Sall Grover | AustLit: Discover Australian Stories". www.austlit.edu.au. Retrieved 2024-04-08.
  35. ^ Blair, Tim (21 July 2022). "Mother's Day in July". The Daily Telegraph (Sydney).
  36. ^ Bourke, Latika (2022). "I was trying to shut down a culture war, Bill Shorten says." Sydney Morning Herald. 25 July 2022. Accessed 5 April 2024.
  37. ^ NCA News Wire (2022). "New mum’s fury over hospital form saying ‘birthing parent’." www.news.com.au. 21 July 2022. Accessed 5 April 2024.
  38. ^ Iveson, K. (2003). Justifying exclusion: The politics of public space and the dispute over access to McIvers ladies' baths, Sydney. Gender, Place and Culture: A Journal of Feminist Geography, 10(3), 215-228.

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