Looking forward to trying Kissle. Do you have to download it? By the way, congrats on the RfA!--
mono (
talk) 00:32, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Yes, the link is on the Kissle page.
Tim Song (
talk) 00:34, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Hello. I'm also interested in Kissle. It is a separate application that has the ability to run on
Mac OSX 10.6, right? I think this is my first time talking to you, so nice to meet you! One more question: can you edit the articles that you are patrolling? Thanks,
Airplanemantalk 05:10, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
You can edit the article, yes. It runs on Windows, and I don't know if it works on Mac. It's written in
C# and requires the
.NET Framework (3.5 or better, I think).
Tim Song (
talk) 05:22, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
It appears to work in Linux via
Mono (at least up to the authentication dialog), so it'll likely work with mono on Mac OS X as well. Also, can I have permission for using Kissle? Thanks.
Tuxcantfly (
talk) 05:47, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Unfortunately, I'm having some reservations. I don't see much speedy tagging, and you only have 15 deleted edits. Nor do I see many patrolled pages. If you can stick with Twinkle for now, and show that you know what the CSDs are about, I'd be happy to reconsider in a couple of weeks or so. NPP is frequently what the newbies first encounter when they join Wikipedia, and we have to be extra careful here to avoid
biting them. Sorry.
Tim Song (
talk) 05:54, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
I had actually been intending more to test and fix portability issues on Linux and Mac OS X than for extensive usage (I find it rather alarming that most of the Wikipedia editing tools are Windows-only, and wanted to help rectify that), but I can see your point. Anyhow, good luck on your RfA.
Tuxcantfly (
talk) 06:40, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
In that case I'm happy to grant you access.Tim Song (
talk) 16:53, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
I do a bit of new page patrolling and would be interested in trying out Kissle... --
RP459Talk/Contributions 21:54, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Done with apologies about the delay.
Tim Song (
talk) 16:16, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Tuxcanfly's comment has allayed my reservations somewhat. Just one last question: can you edit articles while in Kissle, or just tag? If you can edit, I'd like to try it :). Congrats on the RFA!
Airplanemantalk 04:05, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Yes, you can edit. Done and thanks!
Tim Song (
talk) 04:06, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Can't wait to try it!
Airplanemantalk 04:10, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Er... do you know anything about how to make it run in Mono? I extracted Kissle and installed Mono but can't seem to figure out how to use Mono to run Kissle...
Airplanemantalk 04:39, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Just cd to the extracted directory, and do "mono Kissle.exe". It works fine on the login screen and gets to the main UI, but unfortunately crashes as soon as you visit a page since Mono's implementation of System.Windows.Forms.WebBrowser is incomplete. I'll be working on some Mono patches as soon as I can to implement the missing parts, but even if I finish them they won't be available upstream until the next Mono release.
Tuxcantfly (
talk) 20:32, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Um, no. You might want to check the Mono website?
Tim Song (
talk) 04:42, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Yea, have been checking. Will keep looking!
Airplanemantalk 04:45, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Alright, I ressurected my old Windows computer to try this out (hey, it only took me 15 minutes to boot up and get here!). I'll try to give some feedback after using it for a bit.
Airplanemantalk 17:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
I'll try it when a new version of mono comes. Looks like I need to install .net framework 2.0.0727 or something for it to work. Oh well,
Airplanemantalk 17:21, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
(
←) Yes, you need the newest version of the .NET Framework (3.5, I think). Tuxcantfly, if you can give me a list of non-implemented features, I'll check if it is possible to circumvent that.
Tim Song (
talk) 18:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Installed NET 3.5 and now Kissle crashes every time I try to run it. I'm trying this on Windows XP.
Airplanemantalk 19:44, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Can you post the exception info?
Tim Song (
talk) 19:47, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Can I have a permission to use Kissle?? if you please ??
MaenK.A.Talk 18:57, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Already done.
Tim Song (
talk) 23:10, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
In my ongoing work with Huggle, I have done a little new page tagging. I'd be honored to add Kissle to my tools and give it a shot. Thanks for your consideration.
Jusdafax 23:29, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Of course.
Tim Song (
talk) 23:44, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
I'd like to try Kissle out, and I am AWB-approved for the autofixer plugin. :) Avicennasis @ 11:18, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm interested in trying it out.
Vipin Hari||talk 08:14, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Done, apologies for the delay.
Tim Song (
talk) 17:24, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Query. I'm interested in having a function that finds and fixes typos. What would you suggest? Many thanks. Oh -- one more thing ... is there any function that I can use to apply fixes of any type (dashes, typos, etc) to all the articles on my watchlist? Without me opening each up individually? Tx again.--
Epeefleche (
talk) 23:01, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
That's basically AWB's regextypofix. Second, automatically applying fixes without looking at the individual articles is governed by the
bot policy, and I'm not sure about dashes, but typo-fixing bots are not allowed b/c of the high rate of false positives.
Tim Song (
talk) 22:01, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Would like to try it out. -- /
MWOAP|
Notify Me\ 21:36, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
The number of recently declined speedies makes me worried. Please come back when you have a bit more experience & better accuracy with speedy tagging.
T. Canens (
talk) 07:55, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
I've been looking for a tool with the features this slick little program has to help me be better patrol the site GarrettTALK 15:19, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I see little to no experience patrolling new pages in your contributions.
T. Canens (
talk) 07:55, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I would like access to this tool because it could help me become a better new page patroller. Thank you for you consideration,
Bobby122Contact Me(C) 04:24, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, but I don't see much experience with CSDs.
T. Canens (
talk) 19:53, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
I tag images for relatively speedy deletion when appropriate. Do those count as CSD's?
Bobby122Contact Me(C) 20:36, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm most interested in evidence of familiarity with the CSD criteria that are encountered when patrolling new pages - that's G1-3, G10-12, and the A-series of criteria.
T. Canens (
talk) 02:46, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Id like to reapply for Kissle access. Thanks,
Bobby122Contact Me(C) 20:44, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Recent work looks okay; be a bit more careful with those A7's, please. Done.
T. Canens (
talk) 22:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
I would like to use Kissle to help with new page patrolling. Thank you.
Reach Out to the Truth 19:36, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
I am an active NPP and think that Kissle would help speed up the process. I already use
Friendly and
Twinkle during my NPP and have a lot of Article Related CSD's
I sometimes do NPP, and I'm interested in using this tool.
N/
A0 20:05, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
I'd like to see a bit more experience; most of your recent deletions - and they are not very recent - are G7's.
T. Canens (
talk) 22:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Neither
[1] nor
[2] is even remotely within A7's scope. I know it could be frustrating to see articles like that, but please try to be more careful with those tags.
T. Canens (
talk) 22:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
I'd like to use this tool, I have AWB rights. —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 03:31, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, but I don't see much experience with CSDs.
T. Canens (
talk) 03:56, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
I thought this was for New Page Patrolling? I've tagged a few articles with the {{db}} template (using a case-specific) template. I didn't know CSDs were a requirement. —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? •
6:25pm • 08:25, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
And CSDs are one of the more important - and more difficult to master - components of NPP. Automated tools (Kissle, Huggle, AWB etc.) are best at doing repetitive tasks on many pages rather than extensive revisions on a few; for Kissle, that means CSD/PROD/AFD/Tag/Pass, and CSD is the hardest (some might say trickiest) of those.
T. Canens (
talk) 08:35, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
I do have a firm understanding of policy, I have had correctly identified articles which meet the CSD. I've had no complaints about my CSD tagging, while I understand it's your tool and you are free to grant/revoke access I've at least tagged 10 articles correctly and I'm particularly experienced in dealing with copyright violations.
My contributions to WPAFC have been limited, in my earlier days I was subject to much scrutiny and it took me a while to learn from those mistakes. What I'm trying to get at is I learn from my mistakes and I'm not a slow learner. CSD isn't a strength or weakness of mine and I believe I have the capability of contributing positively as do other editors. —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? •
6:42pm • 08:42, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
I see 8 deleted edits in article space in 2010; three of which arose from AfC cleanup, two more dealt with a prod to the same article, and one simply wikified an article that was subsequently deleted. So that's exactly 2 CSDs in article space in the past 9 months. And in one of those two edits, you tagged
Fyad as {{db-blank}} because the redirect on that page was broken - due to IP vandalism, when it would have been much more preferable to simply revert the IP edit. So, no, I have serious reservations about your CSD experience. You are welcome to come back and try again after, say, a couple dozen CSDs in article space.
T. Canens (
talk) 08:37, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
In regards to my AfC work, I've gained confidence after to whole kerfuffle in late June. The target of the redirect shows no relevance, it was probably a hoax since the target page doesn't not mention Fyad anywhere. The CSD wasn't all inappropriate. —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? •
11:09am • 01:09, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
I'd like to use this tool. I've done a lot of cleanup tagging on new articles and I have marked a fair amount of articles for speedy deletion. I would like to use the tool so that I can do new page patrol a lot easier and quicker than having to do it manually.
Usb10Connected? 15:06, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Looks like you are doing good work so far, but I'd like to see a little bit more experience first.
T. Canens (
talk) 03:56, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
This is my third request. Sorry if I am wasting time. It's just that now I think that I am experienced in CSDs. -
Porchcrop(
talk|
contributions) 02:18, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
This is my second request. I think I have good experience in PRODing and CSDing and I would like to use Kissle.
Usb10Connected? 22:44, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
May I have an access? I want to transport kissle into zh Wikipeida :) -
Mys 721tx (
talk) 11:45, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
The source code is publicly available at
[3]. You do not need permission to run it at enwp to look at the source code.
T. Canens (
talk) 23:30, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
How have I not seen this before? I've done some NPPing with Twinkle, would be interested in trying this out.
demize(
t ·
c) 22:42, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
I've been using Huggle and similar tools for a long time, and I have plenty of experience in manual new-page patrol. I'd like to try out this tool.
Krashlandon(talk) 22:07, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Done. Bottom-post, please...
T. Canens (
talk) 12:18, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, and sorry about that.
Krashlandon(talk) 15:12, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Screenshot looks good, I normally do NPP 'old school' i'd like to give this application a go.
Pol430talk to me 12:15, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
My laptop's due for a software upgrade recall in a month or so time so I'd like to try the tool out, I'm aware of the mistakes I've made with CSD, however, I now regularly consult the policy itself so future mistakes will be very, very rare. —Ancient Apparition •
Champagne? • 9:19pm • 10:19, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, but two (
[4][5]) properly declined A7s only a few hours before this request do not really inspire confidence. I'd suggest taking a more conservative approach to CSDs in general and A7 in particular - it's the trickiest one (and the one most likely to get you a lot of opposes at RfA, if you run in the future). You might want to read
WP:10CSD. I don't agree with all of SoWhy's points - a few of them are too strict for me - but they are good suggestions to follow when you find yourself tagging things too eagerly.
T. Canens (
talk)
A7's a tough one... reading SoWhy's points I can see now that if the article makes a credible claim then it's enough, I suppose that would make sense since the article would be able to be fixed. I'll keep that in mind and take articles with no assertion of notability to AfD. —Ancient Apparition •
Champagne? • 9:20am • 22:20, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
I do lots of NPP and I would like access to this tool. ~~
EBE123~~ talkContribs 22:02, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, but
this A7 tag does not inspire confidence at all.
T. Canens (
talk) 01:11, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Is it okay that I get access to the tool again. I was removed because of the topic ban. My topic ban is only for not replying to UAA reports, not removing or altering CSD tags and not initiating discussions with users about their usernames. However, I am famaliar with the deletion policies though. -
Porchcrop(
talk|
contributions) 08:07, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure how someone restricted from removing or altering CSD tags can claim a good grasp on the deletion policies.
T. Canens (
talk) 20:54, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
It seems useful, I want to try it, and generally did NPP with Twinkle --
43?9enter☭msg★contribs 08:09, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
I've done a lot of NP patrolling and RC patrolling using Huggle, Twinkle and some home-brewed tools. I'd like to get back into NPPing and Kissle may be the tool for me. —
Tom Morris (
talk) 18:28, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Done with apologies for the delay. I can't believe I missed it!
T. Canens (
talk) 07:59, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
I would like to try it out. ~~
EBE123~~ talkContribs 21:54, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
I'd like to request access, if deemed appropriate -- just stumbled on this. I've got a good amount of experience NPP'ing, although not that much recently. It's something I'd like to get back into, though.
ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 18:51, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
I see a couple of relative recent mistakes that leave me a bit concerned.
[10], for instance.
T. Canens (
talk) 08:09, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
I would like to try it too! It seems interesting and I am trying to get involved in articles now, so ya, I want to try it. JoeGazz ▲ 19:52, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, but I generally ask people to have a bit more experience with NPP.
T. Canens (
talk) 08:09, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
I would like to try it. Rcsprinter(talk) 16:05, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Done...how did I miss this?
T. Canens (
talk) 09:04, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
I would also like to try it and I have about one month experience of NPP'ing. I've been on WP for about half an year or more though. I like doing this kind of stuff :).--
Albert7777 (
Talk) 07:24, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
I'd like to see a bit more experience. 87 edits is a bit too low.
T. Canens (
talk) 09:04, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
This is my first because, I think that I am experienced in CSDs since 2008 and I would like to try it. --
Mohamed Aden Ighe (
talk) 22:25, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Can you explain what was going on with
this tag?
T. Canens (
talk) 09:04, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
My ban is now expired. And my recent CSD activity is shown
here. -Porch corpter(
contribs) 02:32, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
Yes, they are incorrect tags, but I had
removedthose tags after looking in the article in more detail, and more carefully. After I have been
explained, I now know. I had the most problems with A1, but I now know that A1 means if the explanation of the subject of the article isn't clear. And 75% of my CSD activity was correct.
Would you mind signing my guestbook? -Porch corpter(
talk/
contribs) 07:59, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Kissle isn't designed with "going back" in mind. The infrastructure doesn't support it - once you make an edit (really, once you commit to making an edit - most edits are done asynchronously), there's no way to go back short of firing up an external browser and manually undoing the edits. So accuracy at the first pass is required. And, first, a sample as small as 25 doesn't tell you much, and second, 75% is - I'll be frank - quite low.
T. Canens (
talk) 11:15, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
Rsrikanth05 (
talk·contribs) - I have permissions for NPW, AWB. I used to watch new pages back in 2009, but took a break. Would like to go back to doing it. --
Rsrikanth05 (
talk) 19:39, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Not done. I don't see any experience in patrolling new pages, and more than 90% of your edits are to user or user talk space.
T. Canens (
talk) 17:17, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Done. Stuff like
[11] and
[12] worries me a little, though; in generally it is best to wait a little bit of time before tagging an article unless it's a clear BLP violation/attack page/vandalism/nonsense.
T. Canens (
talk) 16:05, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Ryan Vesey (
talk·contribs) In the past, I primarily used New Page Patrol to build
myCSD log. Recently, I have begun properly patrolling pages by adding maintenance tags and reformatting. I believe that Kissle will make proper patrolling easier. That being said, I would still use Kissle to add CSD, PROD, and AFD tags to articles. I do have a good record with CSD's and I can assure you I am attempting to correct my primary problem, which has been placing CSD tags too early.RyanVeseyReview me! 05:06, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Done. Sorry about the delay - I was out of town for a while.
T. Canens (
talk) 20:59, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
TowTrucker (
talk·contribs) I already have permission for AWB and would like to use Kissle for new page patrol. --
Tow Truckertalk 23:36, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Not done I really don't see much experience patrolling new pages.
T. Canens (
talk) 00:44, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
Riley Huntley (
talk·contribs) I would like to use Kissle for new page patrol. Cheers,
Riley HuntleytalkNo talkback needed; I'll temporarily watch here. 20:53, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
Looking forward to trying Kissle. Do you have to download it? By the way, congrats on the RfA!--
mono (
talk) 00:32, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Yes, the link is on the Kissle page.
Tim Song (
talk) 00:34, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Hello. I'm also interested in Kissle. It is a separate application that has the ability to run on
Mac OSX 10.6, right? I think this is my first time talking to you, so nice to meet you! One more question: can you edit the articles that you are patrolling? Thanks,
Airplanemantalk 05:10, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
You can edit the article, yes. It runs on Windows, and I don't know if it works on Mac. It's written in
C# and requires the
.NET Framework (3.5 or better, I think).
Tim Song (
talk) 05:22, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
It appears to work in Linux via
Mono (at least up to the authentication dialog), so it'll likely work with mono on Mac OS X as well. Also, can I have permission for using Kissle? Thanks.
Tuxcantfly (
talk) 05:47, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Unfortunately, I'm having some reservations. I don't see much speedy tagging, and you only have 15 deleted edits. Nor do I see many patrolled pages. If you can stick with Twinkle for now, and show that you know what the CSDs are about, I'd be happy to reconsider in a couple of weeks or so. NPP is frequently what the newbies first encounter when they join Wikipedia, and we have to be extra careful here to avoid
biting them. Sorry.
Tim Song (
talk) 05:54, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
I had actually been intending more to test and fix portability issues on Linux and Mac OS X than for extensive usage (I find it rather alarming that most of the Wikipedia editing tools are Windows-only, and wanted to help rectify that), but I can see your point. Anyhow, good luck on your RfA.
Tuxcantfly (
talk) 06:40, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
In that case I'm happy to grant you access.Tim Song (
talk) 16:53, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
I do a bit of new page patrolling and would be interested in trying out Kissle... --
RP459Talk/Contributions 21:54, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Done with apologies about the delay.
Tim Song (
talk) 16:16, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Tuxcanfly's comment has allayed my reservations somewhat. Just one last question: can you edit articles while in Kissle, or just tag? If you can edit, I'd like to try it :). Congrats on the RFA!
Airplanemantalk 04:05, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Yes, you can edit. Done and thanks!
Tim Song (
talk) 04:06, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Can't wait to try it!
Airplanemantalk 04:10, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Er... do you know anything about how to make it run in Mono? I extracted Kissle and installed Mono but can't seem to figure out how to use Mono to run Kissle...
Airplanemantalk 04:39, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Just cd to the extracted directory, and do "mono Kissle.exe". It works fine on the login screen and gets to the main UI, but unfortunately crashes as soon as you visit a page since Mono's implementation of System.Windows.Forms.WebBrowser is incomplete. I'll be working on some Mono patches as soon as I can to implement the missing parts, but even if I finish them they won't be available upstream until the next Mono release.
Tuxcantfly (
talk) 20:32, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Um, no. You might want to check the Mono website?
Tim Song (
talk) 04:42, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Yea, have been checking. Will keep looking!
Airplanemantalk 04:45, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Alright, I ressurected my old Windows computer to try this out (hey, it only took me 15 minutes to boot up and get here!). I'll try to give some feedback after using it for a bit.
Airplanemantalk 17:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
I'll try it when a new version of mono comes. Looks like I need to install .net framework 2.0.0727 or something for it to work. Oh well,
Airplanemantalk 17:21, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
(
←) Yes, you need the newest version of the .NET Framework (3.5, I think). Tuxcantfly, if you can give me a list of non-implemented features, I'll check if it is possible to circumvent that.
Tim Song (
talk) 18:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Installed NET 3.5 and now Kissle crashes every time I try to run it. I'm trying this on Windows XP.
Airplanemantalk 19:44, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Can you post the exception info?
Tim Song (
talk) 19:47, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Can I have a permission to use Kissle?? if you please ??
MaenK.A.Talk 18:57, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Already done.
Tim Song (
talk) 23:10, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
In my ongoing work with Huggle, I have done a little new page tagging. I'd be honored to add Kissle to my tools and give it a shot. Thanks for your consideration.
Jusdafax 23:29, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Of course.
Tim Song (
talk) 23:44, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
I'd like to try Kissle out, and I am AWB-approved for the autofixer plugin. :) Avicennasis @ 11:18, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm interested in trying it out.
Vipin Hari||talk 08:14, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Done, apologies for the delay.
Tim Song (
talk) 17:24, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Query. I'm interested in having a function that finds and fixes typos. What would you suggest? Many thanks. Oh -- one more thing ... is there any function that I can use to apply fixes of any type (dashes, typos, etc) to all the articles on my watchlist? Without me opening each up individually? Tx again.--
Epeefleche (
talk) 23:01, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
That's basically AWB's regextypofix. Second, automatically applying fixes without looking at the individual articles is governed by the
bot policy, and I'm not sure about dashes, but typo-fixing bots are not allowed b/c of the high rate of false positives.
Tim Song (
talk) 22:01, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Would like to try it out. -- /
MWOAP|
Notify Me\ 21:36, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
The number of recently declined speedies makes me worried. Please come back when you have a bit more experience & better accuracy with speedy tagging.
T. Canens (
talk) 07:55, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
I've been looking for a tool with the features this slick little program has to help me be better patrol the site GarrettTALK 15:19, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I see little to no experience patrolling new pages in your contributions.
T. Canens (
talk) 07:55, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I would like access to this tool because it could help me become a better new page patroller. Thank you for you consideration,
Bobby122Contact Me(C) 04:24, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, but I don't see much experience with CSDs.
T. Canens (
talk) 19:53, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
I tag images for relatively speedy deletion when appropriate. Do those count as CSD's?
Bobby122Contact Me(C) 20:36, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm most interested in evidence of familiarity with the CSD criteria that are encountered when patrolling new pages - that's G1-3, G10-12, and the A-series of criteria.
T. Canens (
talk) 02:46, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Id like to reapply for Kissle access. Thanks,
Bobby122Contact Me(C) 20:44, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Recent work looks okay; be a bit more careful with those A7's, please. Done.
T. Canens (
talk) 22:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
I would like to use Kissle to help with new page patrolling. Thank you.
Reach Out to the Truth 19:36, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
I am an active NPP and think that Kissle would help speed up the process. I already use
Friendly and
Twinkle during my NPP and have a lot of Article Related CSD's
I sometimes do NPP, and I'm interested in using this tool.
N/
A0 20:05, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
I'd like to see a bit more experience; most of your recent deletions - and they are not very recent - are G7's.
T. Canens (
talk) 22:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Neither
[1] nor
[2] is even remotely within A7's scope. I know it could be frustrating to see articles like that, but please try to be more careful with those tags.
T. Canens (
talk) 22:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
I'd like to use this tool, I have AWB rights. —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 03:31, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, but I don't see much experience with CSDs.
T. Canens (
talk) 03:56, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
I thought this was for New Page Patrolling? I've tagged a few articles with the {{db}} template (using a case-specific) template. I didn't know CSDs were a requirement. —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? •
6:25pm • 08:25, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
And CSDs are one of the more important - and more difficult to master - components of NPP. Automated tools (Kissle, Huggle, AWB etc.) are best at doing repetitive tasks on many pages rather than extensive revisions on a few; for Kissle, that means CSD/PROD/AFD/Tag/Pass, and CSD is the hardest (some might say trickiest) of those.
T. Canens (
talk) 08:35, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
I do have a firm understanding of policy, I have had correctly identified articles which meet the CSD. I've had no complaints about my CSD tagging, while I understand it's your tool and you are free to grant/revoke access I've at least tagged 10 articles correctly and I'm particularly experienced in dealing with copyright violations.
My contributions to WPAFC have been limited, in my earlier days I was subject to much scrutiny and it took me a while to learn from those mistakes. What I'm trying to get at is I learn from my mistakes and I'm not a slow learner. CSD isn't a strength or weakness of mine and I believe I have the capability of contributing positively as do other editors. —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? •
6:42pm • 08:42, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
I see 8 deleted edits in article space in 2010; three of which arose from AfC cleanup, two more dealt with a prod to the same article, and one simply wikified an article that was subsequently deleted. So that's exactly 2 CSDs in article space in the past 9 months. And in one of those two edits, you tagged
Fyad as {{db-blank}} because the redirect on that page was broken - due to IP vandalism, when it would have been much more preferable to simply revert the IP edit. So, no, I have serious reservations about your CSD experience. You are welcome to come back and try again after, say, a couple dozen CSDs in article space.
T. Canens (
talk) 08:37, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
In regards to my AfC work, I've gained confidence after to whole kerfuffle in late June. The target of the redirect shows no relevance, it was probably a hoax since the target page doesn't not mention Fyad anywhere. The CSD wasn't all inappropriate. —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? •
11:09am • 01:09, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
I'd like to use this tool. I've done a lot of cleanup tagging on new articles and I have marked a fair amount of articles for speedy deletion. I would like to use the tool so that I can do new page patrol a lot easier and quicker than having to do it manually.
Usb10Connected? 15:06, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Looks like you are doing good work so far, but I'd like to see a little bit more experience first.
T. Canens (
talk) 03:56, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
This is my third request. Sorry if I am wasting time. It's just that now I think that I am experienced in CSDs. -
Porchcrop(
talk|
contributions) 02:18, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
This is my second request. I think I have good experience in PRODing and CSDing and I would like to use Kissle.
Usb10Connected? 22:44, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
May I have an access? I want to transport kissle into zh Wikipeida :) -
Mys 721tx (
talk) 11:45, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
The source code is publicly available at
[3]. You do not need permission to run it at enwp to look at the source code.
T. Canens (
talk) 23:30, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
How have I not seen this before? I've done some NPPing with Twinkle, would be interested in trying this out.
demize(
t ·
c) 22:42, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
I've been using Huggle and similar tools for a long time, and I have plenty of experience in manual new-page patrol. I'd like to try out this tool.
Krashlandon(talk) 22:07, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Done. Bottom-post, please...
T. Canens (
talk) 12:18, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, and sorry about that.
Krashlandon(talk) 15:12, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Screenshot looks good, I normally do NPP 'old school' i'd like to give this application a go.
Pol430talk to me 12:15, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
My laptop's due for a software upgrade recall in a month or so time so I'd like to try the tool out, I'm aware of the mistakes I've made with CSD, however, I now regularly consult the policy itself so future mistakes will be very, very rare. —Ancient Apparition •
Champagne? • 9:19pm • 10:19, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, but two (
[4][5]) properly declined A7s only a few hours before this request do not really inspire confidence. I'd suggest taking a more conservative approach to CSDs in general and A7 in particular - it's the trickiest one (and the one most likely to get you a lot of opposes at RfA, if you run in the future). You might want to read
WP:10CSD. I don't agree with all of SoWhy's points - a few of them are too strict for me - but they are good suggestions to follow when you find yourself tagging things too eagerly.
T. Canens (
talk)
A7's a tough one... reading SoWhy's points I can see now that if the article makes a credible claim then it's enough, I suppose that would make sense since the article would be able to be fixed. I'll keep that in mind and take articles with no assertion of notability to AfD. —Ancient Apparition •
Champagne? • 9:20am • 22:20, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
I do lots of NPP and I would like access to this tool. ~~
EBE123~~ talkContribs 22:02, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, but
this A7 tag does not inspire confidence at all.
T. Canens (
talk) 01:11, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
Is it okay that I get access to the tool again. I was removed because of the topic ban. My topic ban is only for not replying to UAA reports, not removing or altering CSD tags and not initiating discussions with users about their usernames. However, I am famaliar with the deletion policies though. -
Porchcrop(
talk|
contributions) 08:07, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure how someone restricted from removing or altering CSD tags can claim a good grasp on the deletion policies.
T. Canens (
talk) 20:54, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
It seems useful, I want to try it, and generally did NPP with Twinkle --
43?9enter☭msg★contribs 08:09, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
I've done a lot of NP patrolling and RC patrolling using Huggle, Twinkle and some home-brewed tools. I'd like to get back into NPPing and Kissle may be the tool for me. —
Tom Morris (
talk) 18:28, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Done with apologies for the delay. I can't believe I missed it!
T. Canens (
talk) 07:59, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
I would like to try it out. ~~
EBE123~~ talkContribs 21:54, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
I'd like to request access, if deemed appropriate -- just stumbled on this. I've got a good amount of experience NPP'ing, although not that much recently. It's something I'd like to get back into, though.
ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 18:51, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
I see a couple of relative recent mistakes that leave me a bit concerned.
[10], for instance.
T. Canens (
talk) 08:09, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
I would like to try it too! It seems interesting and I am trying to get involved in articles now, so ya, I want to try it. JoeGazz ▲ 19:52, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, but I generally ask people to have a bit more experience with NPP.
T. Canens (
talk) 08:09, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
I would like to try it. Rcsprinter(talk) 16:05, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Done...how did I miss this?
T. Canens (
talk) 09:04, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
I would also like to try it and I have about one month experience of NPP'ing. I've been on WP for about half an year or more though. I like doing this kind of stuff :).--
Albert7777 (
Talk) 07:24, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
I'd like to see a bit more experience. 87 edits is a bit too low.
T. Canens (
talk) 09:04, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
This is my first because, I think that I am experienced in CSDs since 2008 and I would like to try it. --
Mohamed Aden Ighe (
talk) 22:25, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Can you explain what was going on with
this tag?
T. Canens (
talk) 09:04, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
My ban is now expired. And my recent CSD activity is shown
here. -Porch corpter(
contribs) 02:32, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
Yes, they are incorrect tags, but I had
removedthose tags after looking in the article in more detail, and more carefully. After I have been
explained, I now know. I had the most problems with A1, but I now know that A1 means if the explanation of the subject of the article isn't clear. And 75% of my CSD activity was correct.
Would you mind signing my guestbook? -Porch corpter(
talk/
contribs) 07:59, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Kissle isn't designed with "going back" in mind. The infrastructure doesn't support it - once you make an edit (really, once you commit to making an edit - most edits are done asynchronously), there's no way to go back short of firing up an external browser and manually undoing the edits. So accuracy at the first pass is required. And, first, a sample as small as 25 doesn't tell you much, and second, 75% is - I'll be frank - quite low.
T. Canens (
talk) 11:15, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
Rsrikanth05 (
talk·contribs) - I have permissions for NPW, AWB. I used to watch new pages back in 2009, but took a break. Would like to go back to doing it. --
Rsrikanth05 (
talk) 19:39, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Not done. I don't see any experience in patrolling new pages, and more than 90% of your edits are to user or user talk space.
T. Canens (
talk) 17:17, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Done. Stuff like
[11] and
[12] worries me a little, though; in generally it is best to wait a little bit of time before tagging an article unless it's a clear BLP violation/attack page/vandalism/nonsense.
T. Canens (
talk) 16:05, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Ryan Vesey (
talk·contribs) In the past, I primarily used New Page Patrol to build
myCSD log. Recently, I have begun properly patrolling pages by adding maintenance tags and reformatting. I believe that Kissle will make proper patrolling easier. That being said, I would still use Kissle to add CSD, PROD, and AFD tags to articles. I do have a good record with CSD's and I can assure you I am attempting to correct my primary problem, which has been placing CSD tags too early.RyanVeseyReview me! 05:06, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Done. Sorry about the delay - I was out of town for a while.
T. Canens (
talk) 20:59, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
TowTrucker (
talk·contribs) I already have permission for AWB and would like to use Kissle for new page patrol. --
Tow Truckertalk 23:36, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Not done I really don't see much experience patrolling new pages.
T. Canens (
talk) 00:44, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
Riley Huntley (
talk·contribs) I would like to use Kissle for new page patrol. Cheers,
Riley HuntleytalkNo talkback needed; I'll temporarily watch here. 20:53, 2 August 2012 (UTC)