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Hello there! I follow your advice and started to look around several libraries regarding the sources for the articles in question (that is, the Ecuadorian Peruvian dispute). There are some that are available on English, but some are not. What should I do? I can't translate them. Do I still consider them as reliable sources? Thanks! Messhermit 14:39, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I was planning to do that but I barely know how. As you can see, the only thing that I have actually modified was my profile. Messhermit 23:01, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
An chance the WikiVoter beta is available? Thanks - Williamborg (Bill) 22:18, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Username Williamborg Total edits 5543 Distinct pages edited 1370 Average edits/page 4.046 First edit 20:56, 27 March 2005 (main) 4092 Talk 297 User 330 User talk 513 Image 42 Template 18 Category 155 Category talk 4 Wikipedia 69 (and rising as this is my recent focus) Wikipedia talk 23 (and rising as this is my recent focus)
Well in the lack of an IRC... I had a few questions.
That should start :) —— Eagle ( ask me for help) 23:27, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
responses in small type
I have more, but that should do, (if at all possible, let me know if you are able to get onto IRC from home... have a few more questions like the above (about AfD in general)
Also one heads up, the program will randomly check to make sure that you are logged in under the same username (if not it will recount your edits as if you were opening up the program). This is to make violating WP:SOCK harder. —— Eagle ( ask me for help) 00:09, 30 July 2006 (UTC) Not a problem. Ran on an IP for my first hundred edits, but have had one name since. You don't get to this number of edits while working full time and running sock puppets besides. Plus I've been lucky to avoid major wars; all mine seem to resolve with simple discussion that doesn't require dirty tricks.
Also you said you were a physicist, as in physics? This is my intended major... (along with mathematics...)That's the right combination. My undergraduate degrees were physics and math. . So I have to ask... what do you do as a physicist, what do you study? Is really interested —— Eagle ( ask me for help) 00:09, 30 July 2006 (UTC)Did my graduate work in nuclear physics. Wound up using the technical skills for only a few years. Mostly been a technology development manager; no research since almost forever. Think it was a good direction for me; you still get to do lots of interesting work, even if you don't do physics research.
Headed out for the evening. Mañana - Williamborg (Bill) 00:54, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
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I'd like to give this a whirl if you're willing. I've alphatested things before and bugs and missing bits don't scare me. I have AWB installed already so presumably have the right .net framework. Heard about it on IRC, in the admin channel (I'm an admin on en: so I think I've the edit count bit sussed :) ). Thanks! ++ Lar: t/ c 11:13, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
It's a nice list at: Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/NovelsInCompleteInfobox. If You would have time to make one for the WP:BOOKS project too (would be nice). What information do You need? feydey 20:13, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
It looks interesting. Can I try it? If you'd like, you can add the cat to my userpage, or I'll add it once you accept me. (Hope I meet your minimums ;)) Regards, alphaChimp laudare 05:05, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
All the autolists within the Novels WikiProject have been worked on in their current form for sometime. I think a refresh (using currect criteria) would be useful.
Also being the end of July we have a new newsletter due for August - would you like to add anything in the autolist section. Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Outreach/Newsletter_August_2006 thanks. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 14:35, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
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Hey there. I am a Vandal Proof user and while doing some WP:AFD voting yesterday, I noticed that User:Mboverload was using this program. I was wondering if I might be able to use it as well; you can see my activity in WP:AFD here. Let me know. Cheers! -- moe.RON talk | done | doing 22:43, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
you told me to post at the vandalproof discussion however nobody helped me. I was wondering if you could. I cannot log into vandalproof since I switched my username from Patbaseball2221 to Wikipediarules2221. Thanks a lot. Wikipediarules2221 23:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Did we get the existing lists re-run with existing criteria. You did say they would be done, thanks. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 07:55, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm quite happy with this idea. You might like to float it more generally to the project on the either the General Forum page or on a particular autolist talk page. It would depend for success on the clarity of purpose and a clear indication in the list for which item was which. That in itself might get difficult to achieve. I have no object, but it may not prove too practical. Happy to see something mocked up and open for comment for format and usefulness. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 07:55, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi Eagle--You offered help, but just referred me to new user posting, which I've read and complied with. If you read the article I don't think you'd find it violates any intent or Wiki concept. I'd love to hear more justification. Many thanks. Bobhirschfeld 23:19, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
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as above. —— Eagle ( ask me for help) 05:00, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi.. My application for VandalProof usage has been deleted without any confirmation for the second time now. I've noticed this was done by you, and just wanted to ask about what's happening. While I'm aware that I lack the 250 mainspace edits I'm not exactly new on Wikipedia either, and anyway I think I'd be notified of any disapproval. Take care -- Xasf 09:03, 7 August 2006 (GMT+3)
...I feel like I've bugged the admins too much so far and I'm getting really annoying, but here goes: I was trying to upload a file on Wikipedia Commons (I think it's called that), but it says I'm not logged in, and when I try to log in, it says there is no account under my name. Is this a glitch, or am I doing something wrong? TMNT Donatello 20:38, 7 August 2006 (UTC)TMNT Donatello
Aw, thanks. :) I guess I have done quite a few, heh. Thanks for generating these giantesque lists. Luna Santin 02:14, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
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Hi Eagle 101.
for some odd reason VandalProof will not log me in. I get Your log in reguest failed. Ive entered my username in right and I'm logged in. Any idea what the issue maybe? -- RobertM 07:21, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
um yea it shoud not have been reverted, have you checked youtube.com today? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.107.1.220 ( talk • contribs)
Pointing out links with extreme POV and correction factual errors are not vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.107.1.220 ( talk • contribs)
You recently created a few pages, WikiProject AfD closing/subpage1, WikiProject AfD closing/subpage2, WikiProject AfD closing/subpage3, WikiProject AfD closing/subpage4. My guess is that these were not intended to go in the main namespace? I'm just not sure where they should go or how to get them there. eaolson 23:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Not just colons mate - but wikipedia:'s. I have moved them (same as any of those above should have done instead of talking about it). -- RHaworth 23:55, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
I edited the introduction to the article on isometric group. The definition was not clear . Saying that it is the 'set of all isometries with function composion as group operation' dosent specify the spaces between which we are establishing the isomorphism. In general isometry is a distance-preserving isomorphism between any 2 metric spaces but isometry group refers only to maps from the space onto itself. And that is precisely what I edited. I removed the part specifying that function composition acts as the group operation becuase that follows from the definition of isometry. It is absolutely needless to mention what the identity element of the group is.Besides, it never makes any sense with the current definition in place , i.e not mentioning the spaces between which we are considering the isometry.
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For you good job! Æon Insane Ward 17:23, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
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—— Eagle ( ask me for help) : SPEAKING I appreciate your willingness to help test and find new features for WikiVoter (WV). Of course I am willing to let you test!
That should be all, once I get a stable version I will put it up for anyone to download! Have fun picking up the pieces when the program blows up! (attempt at a joke here!). Cheers! —— Eagle ( ask me for help) 20:39, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
OK... I have put the category Category:Wikipedians using WikiVoter on my user page. I am usually on IRC in the admin channel as well as other, user Lar or Lar|(something) .. or you can send me the address you want me to use by using my mail link. I look forward to giving this a whirl. Does it tell you WHEN people voted? the first oppose vote a lot of the times when a thing goes down suggests influence more than a pile on oppose... I have this page on my watch so we can just continue here. ++ Lar: t/ c 21:53, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
I have copy and pasted a whole text to post on my Wikipedia page. The information is all from my own website. I have all rights to the material on my website but my Wikipedia post was deleted. How would I go about licensing my document under GNU?Thanks Food Safety Network 19:29, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi Eagle101, I'm not sure which page you're referring to - please let me know. I argue that trivia sections in Wikipedia are contrary to Wikipedia policies. Here is the post to the Village Pump policy page I did recently: Articles on films, television shows, and celebrities often have a section at the end called "TRIVIA", in which editors list unimportant, obscure details related (sometimes distantly) to the topic. For example, in the Bill Clinton (former US president) article, there are 22 bullets of trivia, including information that he had "a male chocolate-colored Labrador Retriever named "Buddy" and a cat named "Socks"", that a television ad once depicted "Clinton and a voodoo doll", and that he makes a "thumb gesture". It can be argued that the inclusion of trivia goes against the core Wikipedia principles. Wikipedia is supposed to be an encyclopedia, "not an indiscriminate collection of information", "not a collection of ...trivia" or "A DUMPING GROUND FOR RANDOM INFORMATION" (all quotations from Wikipedia principles or policy pages, but emphasis added by editor). As well, Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy requires editors to cite "... verifiable, authoritative sources whenever possible"; the policy pages state that "WIKIPEDIA IS NOT FOR UNCITABLE MATERIAL". It can be argued that trivia-type information often is not derived from authoritative sources (e.g., other encyclopedias, almanacs, respected publications, etc.). ....Normally I move trivia to the talk page, where it can be discussed - perhaps I made an error in this case.
Oops...forgot to sign last post NatMor 15:56, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
I moved the misplaced material on the other Kim Hill to her father's article, where I though it makes more sense to put it (see Fred Hill).-- BillFlis 20:03, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Dear Moron, please do not revert my edits that are clearly not nonsense. Did you even read the changes I made? I changed *** to ass. That's not nonsense buddy. 74.132.119.197 20:13, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Hello there! I follow your advice and started to look around several libraries regarding the sources for the articles in question (that is, the Ecuadorian Peruvian dispute). There are some that are available on English, but some are not. What should I do? I can't translate them. Do I still consider them as reliable sources? Thanks! Messhermit 14:39, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I was planning to do that but I barely know how. As you can see, the only thing that I have actually modified was my profile. Messhermit 23:01, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
An chance the WikiVoter beta is available? Thanks - Williamborg (Bill) 22:18, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Username Williamborg Total edits 5543 Distinct pages edited 1370 Average edits/page 4.046 First edit 20:56, 27 March 2005 (main) 4092 Talk 297 User 330 User talk 513 Image 42 Template 18 Category 155 Category talk 4 Wikipedia 69 (and rising as this is my recent focus) Wikipedia talk 23 (and rising as this is my recent focus)
Well in the lack of an IRC... I had a few questions.
That should start :) —— Eagle ( ask me for help) 23:27, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
responses in small type
I have more, but that should do, (if at all possible, let me know if you are able to get onto IRC from home... have a few more questions like the above (about AfD in general)
Also one heads up, the program will randomly check to make sure that you are logged in under the same username (if not it will recount your edits as if you were opening up the program). This is to make violating WP:SOCK harder. —— Eagle ( ask me for help) 00:09, 30 July 2006 (UTC) Not a problem. Ran on an IP for my first hundred edits, but have had one name since. You don't get to this number of edits while working full time and running sock puppets besides. Plus I've been lucky to avoid major wars; all mine seem to resolve with simple discussion that doesn't require dirty tricks.
Also you said you were a physicist, as in physics? This is my intended major... (along with mathematics...)That's the right combination. My undergraduate degrees were physics and math. . So I have to ask... what do you do as a physicist, what do you study? Is really interested —— Eagle ( ask me for help) 00:09, 30 July 2006 (UTC)Did my graduate work in nuclear physics. Wound up using the technical skills for only a few years. Mostly been a technology development manager; no research since almost forever. Think it was a good direction for me; you still get to do lots of interesting work, even if you don't do physics research.
Headed out for the evening. Mañana - Williamborg (Bill) 00:54, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
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I'd like to give this a whirl if you're willing. I've alphatested things before and bugs and missing bits don't scare me. I have AWB installed already so presumably have the right .net framework. Heard about it on IRC, in the admin channel (I'm an admin on en: so I think I've the edit count bit sussed :) ). Thanks! ++ Lar: t/ c 11:13, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
It's a nice list at: Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/NovelsInCompleteInfobox. If You would have time to make one for the WP:BOOKS project too (would be nice). What information do You need? feydey 20:13, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
It looks interesting. Can I try it? If you'd like, you can add the cat to my userpage, or I'll add it once you accept me. (Hope I meet your minimums ;)) Regards, alphaChimp laudare 05:05, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
All the autolists within the Novels WikiProject have been worked on in their current form for sometime. I think a refresh (using currect criteria) would be useful.
Also being the end of July we have a new newsletter due for August - would you like to add anything in the autolist section. Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Outreach/Newsletter_August_2006 thanks. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 14:35, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
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Hey there. I am a Vandal Proof user and while doing some WP:AFD voting yesterday, I noticed that User:Mboverload was using this program. I was wondering if I might be able to use it as well; you can see my activity in WP:AFD here. Let me know. Cheers! -- moe.RON talk | done | doing 22:43, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
you told me to post at the vandalproof discussion however nobody helped me. I was wondering if you could. I cannot log into vandalproof since I switched my username from Patbaseball2221 to Wikipediarules2221. Thanks a lot. Wikipediarules2221 23:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Did we get the existing lists re-run with existing criteria. You did say they would be done, thanks. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 07:55, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm quite happy with this idea. You might like to float it more generally to the project on the either the General Forum page or on a particular autolist talk page. It would depend for success on the clarity of purpose and a clear indication in the list for which item was which. That in itself might get difficult to achieve. I have no object, but it may not prove too practical. Happy to see something mocked up and open for comment for format and usefulness. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 07:55, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi Eagle--You offered help, but just referred me to new user posting, which I've read and complied with. If you read the article I don't think you'd find it violates any intent or Wiki concept. I'd love to hear more justification. Many thanks. Bobhirschfeld 23:19, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
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as above. —— Eagle ( ask me for help) 05:00, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi.. My application for VandalProof usage has been deleted without any confirmation for the second time now. I've noticed this was done by you, and just wanted to ask about what's happening. While I'm aware that I lack the 250 mainspace edits I'm not exactly new on Wikipedia either, and anyway I think I'd be notified of any disapproval. Take care -- Xasf 09:03, 7 August 2006 (GMT+3)
...I feel like I've bugged the admins too much so far and I'm getting really annoying, but here goes: I was trying to upload a file on Wikipedia Commons (I think it's called that), but it says I'm not logged in, and when I try to log in, it says there is no account under my name. Is this a glitch, or am I doing something wrong? TMNT Donatello 20:38, 7 August 2006 (UTC)TMNT Donatello
Aw, thanks. :) I guess I have done quite a few, heh. Thanks for generating these giantesque lists. Luna Santin 02:14, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
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Hi Eagle 101.
for some odd reason VandalProof will not log me in. I get Your log in reguest failed. Ive entered my username in right and I'm logged in. Any idea what the issue maybe? -- RobertM 07:21, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
um yea it shoud not have been reverted, have you checked youtube.com today? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.107.1.220 ( talk • contribs)
Pointing out links with extreme POV and correction factual errors are not vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.107.1.220 ( talk • contribs)
You recently created a few pages, WikiProject AfD closing/subpage1, WikiProject AfD closing/subpage2, WikiProject AfD closing/subpage3, WikiProject AfD closing/subpage4. My guess is that these were not intended to go in the main namespace? I'm just not sure where they should go or how to get them there. eaolson 23:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Not just colons mate - but wikipedia:'s. I have moved them (same as any of those above should have done instead of talking about it). -- RHaworth 23:55, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
I edited the introduction to the article on isometric group. The definition was not clear . Saying that it is the 'set of all isometries with function composion as group operation' dosent specify the spaces between which we are establishing the isomorphism. In general isometry is a distance-preserving isomorphism between any 2 metric spaces but isometry group refers only to maps from the space onto itself. And that is precisely what I edited. I removed the part specifying that function composition acts as the group operation becuase that follows from the definition of isometry. It is absolutely needless to mention what the identity element of the group is.Besides, it never makes any sense with the current definition in place , i.e not mentioning the spaces between which we are considering the isometry.
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—— Eagle ( ask me for help) : SPEAKING I appreciate your willingness to help test and find new features for WikiVoter (WV). Of course I am willing to let you test!
That should be all, once I get a stable version I will put it up for anyone to download! Have fun picking up the pieces when the program blows up! (attempt at a joke here!). Cheers! —— Eagle ( ask me for help) 20:39, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
OK... I have put the category Category:Wikipedians using WikiVoter on my user page. I am usually on IRC in the admin channel as well as other, user Lar or Lar|(something) .. or you can send me the address you want me to use by using my mail link. I look forward to giving this a whirl. Does it tell you WHEN people voted? the first oppose vote a lot of the times when a thing goes down suggests influence more than a pile on oppose... I have this page on my watch so we can just continue here. ++ Lar: t/ c 21:53, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
I have copy and pasted a whole text to post on my Wikipedia page. The information is all from my own website. I have all rights to the material on my website but my Wikipedia post was deleted. How would I go about licensing my document under GNU?Thanks Food Safety Network 19:29, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi Eagle101, I'm not sure which page you're referring to - please let me know. I argue that trivia sections in Wikipedia are contrary to Wikipedia policies. Here is the post to the Village Pump policy page I did recently: Articles on films, television shows, and celebrities often have a section at the end called "TRIVIA", in which editors list unimportant, obscure details related (sometimes distantly) to the topic. For example, in the Bill Clinton (former US president) article, there are 22 bullets of trivia, including information that he had "a male chocolate-colored Labrador Retriever named "Buddy" and a cat named "Socks"", that a television ad once depicted "Clinton and a voodoo doll", and that he makes a "thumb gesture". It can be argued that the inclusion of trivia goes against the core Wikipedia principles. Wikipedia is supposed to be an encyclopedia, "not an indiscriminate collection of information", "not a collection of ...trivia" or "A DUMPING GROUND FOR RANDOM INFORMATION" (all quotations from Wikipedia principles or policy pages, but emphasis added by editor). As well, Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy requires editors to cite "... verifiable, authoritative sources whenever possible"; the policy pages state that "WIKIPEDIA IS NOT FOR UNCITABLE MATERIAL". It can be argued that trivia-type information often is not derived from authoritative sources (e.g., other encyclopedias, almanacs, respected publications, etc.). ....Normally I move trivia to the talk page, where it can be discussed - perhaps I made an error in this case.
Oops...forgot to sign last post NatMor 15:56, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
I moved the misplaced material on the other Kim Hill to her father's article, where I though it makes more sense to put it (see Fred Hill).-- BillFlis 20:03, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Dear Moron, please do not revert my edits that are clearly not nonsense. Did you even read the changes I made? I changed *** to ass. That's not nonsense buddy. 74.132.119.197 20:13, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
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Hello there! I follow your advice and started to look around several libraries regarding the sources for the articles in question (that is, the Ecuadorian Peruvian dispute). There are some that are available on English, but some are not. What should I do? I can't translate them. Do I still consider them as reliable sources? Thanks! Messhermit 14:39, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I was planning to do that but I barely know how. As you can see, the only thing that I have actually modified was my profile. Messhermit 23:01, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
An chance the WikiVoter beta is available? Thanks - Williamborg (Bill) 22:18, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Username Williamborg Total edits 5543 Distinct pages edited 1370 Average edits/page 4.046 First edit 20:56, 27 March 2005 (main) 4092 Talk 297 User 330 User talk 513 Image 42 Template 18 Category 155 Category talk 4 Wikipedia 69 (and rising as this is my recent focus) Wikipedia talk 23 (and rising as this is my recent focus)
Well in the lack of an IRC... I had a few questions.
That should start :) —— Eagle ( ask me for help) 23:27, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
responses in small type
I have more, but that should do, (if at all possible, let me know if you are able to get onto IRC from home... have a few more questions like the above (about AfD in general)
Also one heads up, the program will randomly check to make sure that you are logged in under the same username (if not it will recount your edits as if you were opening up the program). This is to make violating WP:SOCK harder. —— Eagle ( ask me for help) 00:09, 30 July 2006 (UTC) Not a problem. Ran on an IP for my first hundred edits, but have had one name since. You don't get to this number of edits while working full time and running sock puppets besides. Plus I've been lucky to avoid major wars; all mine seem to resolve with simple discussion that doesn't require dirty tricks.
Also you said you were a physicist, as in physics? This is my intended major... (along with mathematics...)That's the right combination. My undergraduate degrees were physics and math. . So I have to ask... what do you do as a physicist, what do you study? Is really interested —— Eagle ( ask me for help) 00:09, 30 July 2006 (UTC)Did my graduate work in nuclear physics. Wound up using the technical skills for only a few years. Mostly been a technology development manager; no research since almost forever. Think it was a good direction for me; you still get to do lots of interesting work, even if you don't do physics research.
Headed out for the evening. Mañana - Williamborg (Bill) 00:54, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
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I'd like to give this a whirl if you're willing. I've alphatested things before and bugs and missing bits don't scare me. I have AWB installed already so presumably have the right .net framework. Heard about it on IRC, in the admin channel (I'm an admin on en: so I think I've the edit count bit sussed :) ). Thanks! ++ Lar: t/ c 11:13, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
It's a nice list at: Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/NovelsInCompleteInfobox. If You would have time to make one for the WP:BOOKS project too (would be nice). What information do You need? feydey 20:13, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
It looks interesting. Can I try it? If you'd like, you can add the cat to my userpage, or I'll add it once you accept me. (Hope I meet your minimums ;)) Regards, alphaChimp laudare 05:05, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
All the autolists within the Novels WikiProject have been worked on in their current form for sometime. I think a refresh (using currect criteria) would be useful.
Also being the end of July we have a new newsletter due for August - would you like to add anything in the autolist section. Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Outreach/Newsletter_August_2006 thanks. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 14:35, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
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Hey there. I am a Vandal Proof user and while doing some WP:AFD voting yesterday, I noticed that User:Mboverload was using this program. I was wondering if I might be able to use it as well; you can see my activity in WP:AFD here. Let me know. Cheers! -- moe.RON talk | done | doing 22:43, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
you told me to post at the vandalproof discussion however nobody helped me. I was wondering if you could. I cannot log into vandalproof since I switched my username from Patbaseball2221 to Wikipediarules2221. Thanks a lot. Wikipediarules2221 23:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Did we get the existing lists re-run with existing criteria. You did say they would be done, thanks. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 07:55, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm quite happy with this idea. You might like to float it more generally to the project on the either the General Forum page or on a particular autolist talk page. It would depend for success on the clarity of purpose and a clear indication in the list for which item was which. That in itself might get difficult to achieve. I have no object, but it may not prove too practical. Happy to see something mocked up and open for comment for format and usefulness. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 07:55, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi Eagle--You offered help, but just referred me to new user posting, which I've read and complied with. If you read the article I don't think you'd find it violates any intent or Wiki concept. I'd love to hear more justification. Many thanks. Bobhirschfeld 23:19, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
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as above. —— Eagle ( ask me for help) 05:00, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi.. My application for VandalProof usage has been deleted without any confirmation for the second time now. I've noticed this was done by you, and just wanted to ask about what's happening. While I'm aware that I lack the 250 mainspace edits I'm not exactly new on Wikipedia either, and anyway I think I'd be notified of any disapproval. Take care -- Xasf 09:03, 7 August 2006 (GMT+3)
...I feel like I've bugged the admins too much so far and I'm getting really annoying, but here goes: I was trying to upload a file on Wikipedia Commons (I think it's called that), but it says I'm not logged in, and when I try to log in, it says there is no account under my name. Is this a glitch, or am I doing something wrong? TMNT Donatello 20:38, 7 August 2006 (UTC)TMNT Donatello
Aw, thanks. :) I guess I have done quite a few, heh. Thanks for generating these giantesque lists. Luna Santin 02:14, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
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Hi Eagle 101.
for some odd reason VandalProof will not log me in. I get Your log in reguest failed. Ive entered my username in right and I'm logged in. Any idea what the issue maybe? -- RobertM 07:21, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
um yea it shoud not have been reverted, have you checked youtube.com today? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.107.1.220 ( talk • contribs)
Pointing out links with extreme POV and correction factual errors are not vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.107.1.220 ( talk • contribs)
You recently created a few pages, WikiProject AfD closing/subpage1, WikiProject AfD closing/subpage2, WikiProject AfD closing/subpage3, WikiProject AfD closing/subpage4. My guess is that these were not intended to go in the main namespace? I'm just not sure where they should go or how to get them there. eaolson 23:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Not just colons mate - but wikipedia:'s. I have moved them (same as any of those above should have done instead of talking about it). -- RHaworth 23:55, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
I edited the introduction to the article on isometric group. The definition was not clear . Saying that it is the 'set of all isometries with function composion as group operation' dosent specify the spaces between which we are establishing the isomorphism. In general isometry is a distance-preserving isomorphism between any 2 metric spaces but isometry group refers only to maps from the space onto itself. And that is precisely what I edited. I removed the part specifying that function composition acts as the group operation becuase that follows from the definition of isometry. It is absolutely needless to mention what the identity element of the group is.Besides, it never makes any sense with the current definition in place , i.e not mentioning the spaces between which we are considering the isometry.
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For you good job! Æon Insane Ward 17:23, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
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—— Eagle ( ask me for help) : SPEAKING I appreciate your willingness to help test and find new features for WikiVoter (WV). Of course I am willing to let you test!
That should be all, once I get a stable version I will put it up for anyone to download! Have fun picking up the pieces when the program blows up! (attempt at a joke here!). Cheers! —— Eagle ( ask me for help) 20:39, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
OK... I have put the category Category:Wikipedians using WikiVoter on my user page. I am usually on IRC in the admin channel as well as other, user Lar or Lar|(something) .. or you can send me the address you want me to use by using my mail link. I look forward to giving this a whirl. Does it tell you WHEN people voted? the first oppose vote a lot of the times when a thing goes down suggests influence more than a pile on oppose... I have this page on my watch so we can just continue here. ++ Lar: t/ c 21:53, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
I have copy and pasted a whole text to post on my Wikipedia page. The information is all from my own website. I have all rights to the material on my website but my Wikipedia post was deleted. How would I go about licensing my document under GNU?Thanks Food Safety Network 19:29, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi Eagle101, I'm not sure which page you're referring to - please let me know. I argue that trivia sections in Wikipedia are contrary to Wikipedia policies. Here is the post to the Village Pump policy page I did recently: Articles on films, television shows, and celebrities often have a section at the end called "TRIVIA", in which editors list unimportant, obscure details related (sometimes distantly) to the topic. For example, in the Bill Clinton (former US president) article, there are 22 bullets of trivia, including information that he had "a male chocolate-colored Labrador Retriever named "Buddy" and a cat named "Socks"", that a television ad once depicted "Clinton and a voodoo doll", and that he makes a "thumb gesture". It can be argued that the inclusion of trivia goes against the core Wikipedia principles. Wikipedia is supposed to be an encyclopedia, "not an indiscriminate collection of information", "not a collection of ...trivia" or "A DUMPING GROUND FOR RANDOM INFORMATION" (all quotations from Wikipedia principles or policy pages, but emphasis added by editor). As well, Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy requires editors to cite "... verifiable, authoritative sources whenever possible"; the policy pages state that "WIKIPEDIA IS NOT FOR UNCITABLE MATERIAL". It can be argued that trivia-type information often is not derived from authoritative sources (e.g., other encyclopedias, almanacs, respected publications, etc.). ....Normally I move trivia to the talk page, where it can be discussed - perhaps I made an error in this case.
Oops...forgot to sign last post NatMor 15:56, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
I moved the misplaced material on the other Kim Hill to her father's article, where I though it makes more sense to put it (see Fred Hill).-- BillFlis 20:03, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Dear Moron, please do not revert my edits that are clearly not nonsense. Did you even read the changes I made? I changed *** to ass. That's not nonsense buddy. 74.132.119.197 20:13, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Hello there! I follow your advice and started to look around several libraries regarding the sources for the articles in question (that is, the Ecuadorian Peruvian dispute). There are some that are available on English, but some are not. What should I do? I can't translate them. Do I still consider them as reliable sources? Thanks! Messhermit 14:39, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I was planning to do that but I barely know how. As you can see, the only thing that I have actually modified was my profile. Messhermit 23:01, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
An chance the WikiVoter beta is available? Thanks - Williamborg (Bill) 22:18, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Username Williamborg Total edits 5543 Distinct pages edited 1370 Average edits/page 4.046 First edit 20:56, 27 March 2005 (main) 4092 Talk 297 User 330 User talk 513 Image 42 Template 18 Category 155 Category talk 4 Wikipedia 69 (and rising as this is my recent focus) Wikipedia talk 23 (and rising as this is my recent focus)
Well in the lack of an IRC... I had a few questions.
That should start :) —— Eagle ( ask me for help) 23:27, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
responses in small type
I have more, but that should do, (if at all possible, let me know if you are able to get onto IRC from home... have a few more questions like the above (about AfD in general)
Also one heads up, the program will randomly check to make sure that you are logged in under the same username (if not it will recount your edits as if you were opening up the program). This is to make violating WP:SOCK harder. —— Eagle ( ask me for help) 00:09, 30 July 2006 (UTC) Not a problem. Ran on an IP for my first hundred edits, but have had one name since. You don't get to this number of edits while working full time and running sock puppets besides. Plus I've been lucky to avoid major wars; all mine seem to resolve with simple discussion that doesn't require dirty tricks.
Also you said you were a physicist, as in physics? This is my intended major... (along with mathematics...)That's the right combination. My undergraduate degrees were physics and math. . So I have to ask... what do you do as a physicist, what do you study? Is really interested —— Eagle ( ask me for help) 00:09, 30 July 2006 (UTC)Did my graduate work in nuclear physics. Wound up using the technical skills for only a few years. Mostly been a technology development manager; no research since almost forever. Think it was a good direction for me; you still get to do lots of interesting work, even if you don't do physics research.
Headed out for the evening. Mañana - Williamborg (Bill) 00:54, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
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I'd like to give this a whirl if you're willing. I've alphatested things before and bugs and missing bits don't scare me. I have AWB installed already so presumably have the right .net framework. Heard about it on IRC, in the admin channel (I'm an admin on en: so I think I've the edit count bit sussed :) ). Thanks! ++ Lar: t/ c 11:13, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
It's a nice list at: Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/NovelsInCompleteInfobox. If You would have time to make one for the WP:BOOKS project too (would be nice). What information do You need? feydey 20:13, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
It looks interesting. Can I try it? If you'd like, you can add the cat to my userpage, or I'll add it once you accept me. (Hope I meet your minimums ;)) Regards, alphaChimp laudare 05:05, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
All the autolists within the Novels WikiProject have been worked on in their current form for sometime. I think a refresh (using currect criteria) would be useful.
Also being the end of July we have a new newsletter due for August - would you like to add anything in the autolist section. Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/Outreach/Newsletter_August_2006 thanks. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 14:35, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
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Hey there. I am a Vandal Proof user and while doing some WP:AFD voting yesterday, I noticed that User:Mboverload was using this program. I was wondering if I might be able to use it as well; you can see my activity in WP:AFD here. Let me know. Cheers! -- moe.RON talk | done | doing 22:43, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
you told me to post at the vandalproof discussion however nobody helped me. I was wondering if you could. I cannot log into vandalproof since I switched my username from Patbaseball2221 to Wikipediarules2221. Thanks a lot. Wikipediarules2221 23:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Did we get the existing lists re-run with existing criteria. You did say they would be done, thanks. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 07:55, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm quite happy with this idea. You might like to float it more generally to the project on the either the General Forum page or on a particular autolist talk page. It would depend for success on the clarity of purpose and a clear indication in the list for which item was which. That in itself might get difficult to achieve. I have no object, but it may not prove too practical. Happy to see something mocked up and open for comment for format and usefulness. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/ (Desk) 07:55, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi Eagle--You offered help, but just referred me to new user posting, which I've read and complied with. If you read the article I don't think you'd find it violates any intent or Wiki concept. I'd love to hear more justification. Many thanks. Bobhirschfeld 23:19, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
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as above. —— Eagle ( ask me for help) 05:00, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi.. My application for VandalProof usage has been deleted without any confirmation for the second time now. I've noticed this was done by you, and just wanted to ask about what's happening. While I'm aware that I lack the 250 mainspace edits I'm not exactly new on Wikipedia either, and anyway I think I'd be notified of any disapproval. Take care -- Xasf 09:03, 7 August 2006 (GMT+3)
...I feel like I've bugged the admins too much so far and I'm getting really annoying, but here goes: I was trying to upload a file on Wikipedia Commons (I think it's called that), but it says I'm not logged in, and when I try to log in, it says there is no account under my name. Is this a glitch, or am I doing something wrong? TMNT Donatello 20:38, 7 August 2006 (UTC)TMNT Donatello
Aw, thanks. :) I guess I have done quite a few, heh. Thanks for generating these giantesque lists. Luna Santin 02:14, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
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Hi Eagle 101.
for some odd reason VandalProof will not log me in. I get Your log in reguest failed. Ive entered my username in right and I'm logged in. Any idea what the issue maybe? -- RobertM 07:21, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
um yea it shoud not have been reverted, have you checked youtube.com today? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.107.1.220 ( talk • contribs)
Pointing out links with extreme POV and correction factual errors are not vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.107.1.220 ( talk • contribs)
You recently created a few pages, WikiProject AfD closing/subpage1, WikiProject AfD closing/subpage2, WikiProject AfD closing/subpage3, WikiProject AfD closing/subpage4. My guess is that these were not intended to go in the main namespace? I'm just not sure where they should go or how to get them there. eaolson 23:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Not just colons mate - but wikipedia:'s. I have moved them (same as any of those above should have done instead of talking about it). -- RHaworth 23:55, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
I edited the introduction to the article on isometric group. The definition was not clear . Saying that it is the 'set of all isometries with function composion as group operation' dosent specify the spaces between which we are establishing the isomorphism. In general isometry is a distance-preserving isomorphism between any 2 metric spaces but isometry group refers only to maps from the space onto itself. And that is precisely what I edited. I removed the part specifying that function composition acts as the group operation becuase that follows from the definition of isometry. It is absolutely needless to mention what the identity element of the group is.Besides, it never makes any sense with the current definition in place , i.e not mentioning the spaces between which we are considering the isometry.
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—— Eagle ( ask me for help) : SPEAKING I appreciate your willingness to help test and find new features for WikiVoter (WV). Of course I am willing to let you test!
That should be all, once I get a stable version I will put it up for anyone to download! Have fun picking up the pieces when the program blows up! (attempt at a joke here!). Cheers! —— Eagle ( ask me for help) 20:39, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
OK... I have put the category Category:Wikipedians using WikiVoter on my user page. I am usually on IRC in the admin channel as well as other, user Lar or Lar|(something) .. or you can send me the address you want me to use by using my mail link. I look forward to giving this a whirl. Does it tell you WHEN people voted? the first oppose vote a lot of the times when a thing goes down suggests influence more than a pile on oppose... I have this page on my watch so we can just continue here. ++ Lar: t/ c 21:53, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
I have copy and pasted a whole text to post on my Wikipedia page. The information is all from my own website. I have all rights to the material on my website but my Wikipedia post was deleted. How would I go about licensing my document under GNU?Thanks Food Safety Network 19:29, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi Eagle101, I'm not sure which page you're referring to - please let me know. I argue that trivia sections in Wikipedia are contrary to Wikipedia policies. Here is the post to the Village Pump policy page I did recently: Articles on films, television shows, and celebrities often have a section at the end called "TRIVIA", in which editors list unimportant, obscure details related (sometimes distantly) to the topic. For example, in the Bill Clinton (former US president) article, there are 22 bullets of trivia, including information that he had "a male chocolate-colored Labrador Retriever named "Buddy" and a cat named "Socks"", that a television ad once depicted "Clinton and a voodoo doll", and that he makes a "thumb gesture". It can be argued that the inclusion of trivia goes against the core Wikipedia principles. Wikipedia is supposed to be an encyclopedia, "not an indiscriminate collection of information", "not a collection of ...trivia" or "A DUMPING GROUND FOR RANDOM INFORMATION" (all quotations from Wikipedia principles or policy pages, but emphasis added by editor). As well, Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy requires editors to cite "... verifiable, authoritative sources whenever possible"; the policy pages state that "WIKIPEDIA IS NOT FOR UNCITABLE MATERIAL". It can be argued that trivia-type information often is not derived from authoritative sources (e.g., other encyclopedias, almanacs, respected publications, etc.). ....Normally I move trivia to the talk page, where it can be discussed - perhaps I made an error in this case.
Oops...forgot to sign last post NatMor 15:56, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
I moved the misplaced material on the other Kim Hill to her father's article, where I though it makes more sense to put it (see Fred Hill).-- BillFlis 20:03, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Dear Moron, please do not revert my edits that are clearly not nonsense. Did you even read the changes I made? I changed *** to ass. That's not nonsense buddy. 74.132.119.197 20:13, 18 August 2006 (UTC)