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The Mont Blanc massif is one of the most well-known and heavily visited parts of the European Alps. (6 million visitors per annum) This article went through FAC in 2016, where all issues raised were addressed, especially structure/layout. However, it probably fell at the last hurdle as the progress appeared not to have been made sufficiently speedily, and the candidacy was archived. Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Mont Blanc massif/archive1
My action list prior to :
Previous concerns by NM- to re-check I've addressed:
File:Zentralbibliothek_Zürich_-_Vallée_de_Chamonix_Traversée_de_la_Mer_de_Glace_-_400017818.jpg: if the author is unknown, how do we know they died over 70 years ago? This is a 20th-century image so it's quite possible they did not France does not have freedom of panorama, so depictions of statues and buildings need to include details on the copyright status of the pictured thing as well as the photo itself
Points I had addressed post-feedback:
BSYH is a mountain hut in the Lake District of England. It was formerly a shepherds bothy, but since DATE has been run as a youth hostel by the YHA. It is regarded as the most remote of all youth hostels, with no road access and requiring an x mile walk.
In INSERT YEAR it was revamped
External link to architects revamp http://just-h-architects.squarespace.com/black-sail-hostel/kglnnq1hwafg7tojpseol8g3ssc16a
Many wikipedia pages state that the mountains of the Mont Blanc massif fall into the Graian Alps. This is erroneous, and it is virutally impossible to find any non-wikipedia based sources which substatniate this. Indeed, the reverse is the case. Here are a few:
Having been granted special permission 'in the interests of science' to cut short a journey with the Emperor William II Gussfeldt accompanied by Klucker and Emile Rey, two of the greatest guides of the period, and by Cesar Oilier as porter reached the summit of Mont Blanc on 16 August by way of the Brenva glacier, the Aiguille Blanche de Peuterey and Mont Blanc de Courmayeur. The expedition, which lasted for 88 hours, necessitated two remote bivouacs and a dreadful night 'in the cabane of the Rochers Rouges, packed together with 12 workmen' Article
""It is not the gain that leads me to the summits, it is the passion that I have for the mountain. I have always regarded the fee as a secondary thing in my life driving."[ citation needed]
In 1889 both peaks of the Dru were climbed for the first time from the Petit Dru to the Grand Dru by two parties. One party contained Katharine Richardson and guides Emile Rey and Jean-Baptiste Bich, and the other Mr Nash and Mr Williams with guides François Simond, Frederic Payot and Edouard Cupelin.[3] = Alpine Journal, 1888–89, vol. 14, 511–512 see also Walt Unsworth pp&g
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Alps Project Template for Talk Pages
{{WikiProject Mountains|class=Start|importance=Low|alps=Yes|alps-importance=Low}}
The High Mountains of the Alps
<ref name=Dumler>Helmut Dumler and Willi P. Burkhardt, ''The High Mountains of the Alps'', London: Diadem, 1994</ref>{{rp|199}}
Add page number: <ref name=bookname />{{rp|199}}
The 4000m Peaks of the Alps
<ref name=Moran>{{Cite book|last=Moran, Martin.|url=https://www.worldcat.org/oclc/877308113|title=The 4000m peaks of the Alps : selected climbs.|date=2012|publisher=Alpine Club|isbn=978-0-900523-66-3|oclc=877308113}}</ref>{{rp|199}}
Pennine Alps Central (Collomb 1975)
<ref name=Collomb>Robin G. Collomb, ''Pennine Alps Central'', London: Alpine Club, 1975, p. ???</ref>
Pennine Alps East
<ref>{{Cite book|last=Collomb|first=Robin|title=Pennine Alps East - Saas and Mischabel Chains|publisher=The Alpine Club|year=1979|isbn=900523131|location=London|pages=}}</ref>{{rp|123}}
Mont Blanc range. Vol. 1: (Collomb 1976)
<ref name="Collomb">{{Cite book|url=https://www.worldcat.org/oclc/25691643|title=Mont Blanc range. Vol. 1: Trelatete, Mont Blanc, Maudit, Tacul, Brenva;|last=Collomb|first=Robin|last2=O'Connor|first2=W.H.|date=|publisher=Alpine Club|year=1976|isbn=0900523204|location=London|pages=200|oclc=25691643}}</ref>
Mont Blanc Massif Vol 1 (Griffin1)
<ref name=Griffin1>{{cite book|last1=Griffin|first1=Lindsay|title=Mont Blanc Massif Volume 1|date=1990|publisher=Alpine Club|location=London|isbn=0900523573|accessdate=7 November 2015}}</ref>{{rp|199}}
Mont Blanc Massif Vol 2 (Griffin2)
<ref name=Griffin2>{{cite book|last1=Griffin|first1=Lindsay|title=Mont Blanc Massif Volume 2|date=1991|publisher=Alpine Club|location=London|isbn=0900523581|accessdate=11 November 2015}}</ref>{{rp|199}}
The Alpine 4000m Peaks (Goedeke)
<ref name=Goedeke>{{cite book|last1=Goedeke|first1=Richard|title=The Alpine 4000m Peaks by the Classic Routes|date=1990|publisher=Diadem Books|location=London|isbn=3763410074|edition=1st|accessdate=8 November 2015}}</ref>{{rp|199}}
Gaston Rubberfeet
<ref name=Rebuffat>{{cite book|last1=Rebuffat|first1=Gaston|title=The Mont Blanc Massif - The 100 Finest Routes|date=1991|publisher=Diadem Books|isbn=0906371392|edition=1974 English edition|accessdate=28 November 2015}}</ref>
Valais Alps East
<ref>{{cite book|last1=Swindin|first1=Les|last2=Flemming|first2=Peter|title=Valais Alps East:Selected Climbs|date=1999|publisher=The Alpine Club|isbn=978-0900523625|accessdate=6 March 2016}}</ref>
Valais Alps West (check date/ISBN against book)
<ref>{{cite book|last1=Swindin|first1=Les|last2=Flemming|first2=Peter|title=Valais Alps West:Selected Climbs|date=1999|publisher=The Alpine Club|isbn=978-0900523625|accessdate=6 March 2016}}</ref>
Moran Alps 4000
<ref>{{cite book|last1=Moran|first1=Martin|title=Alps 4000:75 peaks in 52 days|date=1994|publisher=David & Charles|isbn=071530268X}}</ref>
In Monte Viso's Horizon
<ref>{{cite book|last1=McLewin|first1=Will|title=In Monte Viso's Horizon|date=1991|publisher=Ernest Press|isbn=0948153091|accessdate=6 March 2016}}</ref>
Walliser Alpen
<ref>{{cite book|last1=Vaucher|first1=Michel|title=Walliser Alpen: Die 100 schönsten Touren|date=1983|publisher=Carta|location=France|isbn=3887310136|accessdate=6 March 2016}}</ref>
Baedeker's Switzerland
<ref>{{cite book|last1=Baedeker|first1=Karl|title=Switzerland (Baedeker's Switzerland)|date=1895|publisher=K Baedeker|location=Leipsic|edition=16|accessdate=6 March 2016}}</ref>
Tyndall's Glaciers of the Alps
<ref>{{cite book|last1=Tyndall F.R.S.|first1=John|title=The Glaciers of the Alps (Part 1)|date=1860|publisher=G. Routledge & Sons, Ltd.|location=New York|edition=New Universal Library|accessdate=6 March 2016}}</ref>
Chamonix Mont Blanc map (1:25,000).
<ref name=IGN-MB>{{cite map |title = chamonix - mont-blanc |map = 3630 ouest |map-url = |year = 1984 |url = |scale = 1:25,000 |series = Carte Topographique |version= |publisher= Institut Géographique National |edition= 2nd |location= Paris |language= French |isbn=}}
</ref>
Saint Gervais les Bains, Mont Blanc map (1:25,000).
<ref name=IGN-SGlB>{{cite map |title = saint gervais les bains - mont-blanc |map = 3531 est |map-url = |year = 1986 |url = |scale = 1:25,000 |series = Carte Topographique |version= |publisher= Institut Géographique National |edition= 2nd |location= Paris |language= French |isbn=}} </ref>
Alpine Climbing grades
on the [[Grade_(climbing)#International_French_adjectival_system_(IFAS)|French adjectival climbing scale]], is graded at F+/PD-
USGS Glaciers of the World (this link Alps:Italian Alps)
<ref name=usgs>{{Citation
| first1 = Rossana Serandrei | last1 = Barbero
| first2 = Georgio | last2 = Zanon
| author-link =
| editor-last = Williams | editor-first = R.S.
| editor2-last = Ferrigno | editor2-first = J.G.
| contribution = The Italian Alps
| contribution-url =
| series = U.S. Geological Survey Professional Paper 1386-H
| year = 1989 | pages = E39 | place =
| publisher = U.S. Geological Survey
| url = https://pubs.usgs.gov/pp/p1386e/alps.pdf
| title = Satellite Image Atlas of Glaciers of the World - Glaciers of the Alps
| doi = | ISBN= 0-607-71457-3 }}</ref>]]
on the French adjectival climbing scale, is graded at F+/PD-
![]() | This is a Wikipedia
user page. This is not an encyclopedia article or the talk page for an encyclopedia article. If you find this page on any site other than Wikipedia, you are viewing a mirror site. Be aware that the page may be outdated and that the user in whose space this page is located may have no personal affiliation with any site other than Wikipedia. The original page is located at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nick_Moyes/mountains. |
This is a work in progress page!
The Mont Blanc massif is one of the most well-known and heavily visited parts of the European Alps. (6 million visitors per annum) This article went through FAC in 2016, where all issues raised were addressed, especially structure/layout. However, it probably fell at the last hurdle as the progress appeared not to have been made sufficiently speedily, and the candidacy was archived. Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Mont Blanc massif/archive1
My action list prior to :
Previous concerns by NM- to re-check I've addressed:
File:Zentralbibliothek_Zürich_-_Vallée_de_Chamonix_Traversée_de_la_Mer_de_Glace_-_400017818.jpg: if the author is unknown, how do we know they died over 70 years ago? This is a 20th-century image so it's quite possible they did not France does not have freedom of panorama, so depictions of statues and buildings need to include details on the copyright status of the pictured thing as well as the photo itself
Points I had addressed post-feedback:
BSYH is a mountain hut in the Lake District of England. It was formerly a shepherds bothy, but since DATE has been run as a youth hostel by the YHA. It is regarded as the most remote of all youth hostels, with no road access and requiring an x mile walk.
In INSERT YEAR it was revamped
External link to architects revamp http://just-h-architects.squarespace.com/black-sail-hostel/kglnnq1hwafg7tojpseol8g3ssc16a
Many wikipedia pages state that the mountains of the Mont Blanc massif fall into the Graian Alps. This is erroneous, and it is virutally impossible to find any non-wikipedia based sources which substatniate this. Indeed, the reverse is the case. Here are a few:
Having been granted special permission 'in the interests of science' to cut short a journey with the Emperor William II Gussfeldt accompanied by Klucker and Emile Rey, two of the greatest guides of the period, and by Cesar Oilier as porter reached the summit of Mont Blanc on 16 August by way of the Brenva glacier, the Aiguille Blanche de Peuterey and Mont Blanc de Courmayeur. The expedition, which lasted for 88 hours, necessitated two remote bivouacs and a dreadful night 'in the cabane of the Rochers Rouges, packed together with 12 workmen' Article
""It is not the gain that leads me to the summits, it is the passion that I have for the mountain. I have always regarded the fee as a secondary thing in my life driving."[ citation needed]
In 1889 both peaks of the Dru were climbed for the first time from the Petit Dru to the Grand Dru by two parties. One party contained Katharine Richardson and guides Emile Rey and Jean-Baptiste Bich, and the other Mr Nash and Mr Williams with guides François Simond, Frederic Payot and Edouard Cupelin.[3] = Alpine Journal, 1888–89, vol. 14, 511–512 see also Walt Unsworth pp&g
{{Infobox hut | name = | image = | image_size = | image_alt = | caption = | country = | state = | region = | admin_district = | national_park = | mountain_range = | location = | place = | iso_region = | latd = | latm = | lats = | latNS = | longd = | longm = | longs = | longEW = | elevation = | built = <!-- {{Start date|YYYY}} --> | owner = | url = | when_open = | catering = | accessed_by = <!-- The following fields are specific to European Alpine huts --> | AC_hut = <!-- AAC AACZ AVS AGP ASAC CAF CAI DAV DAV/OeAV LAV NKBV ÖAK OeAV OeAV/DAV ÖTK PZS SAC SAT SPD TVN private --> | type = [[mountain hut|hut]]<!-- [[inn]] / [[mountain hut|hut]] / [[bothy]] --> | bedspaces = | winter_room = }}
Alps Project Template for Talk Pages
{{WikiProject Mountains|class=Start|importance=Low|alps=Yes|alps-importance=Low}}
The High Mountains of the Alps
<ref name=Dumler>Helmut Dumler and Willi P. Burkhardt, ''The High Mountains of the Alps'', London: Diadem, 1994</ref>{{rp|199}}
Add page number: <ref name=bookname />{{rp|199}}
The 4000m Peaks of the Alps
<ref name=Moran>{{Cite book|last=Moran, Martin.|url=https://www.worldcat.org/oclc/877308113|title=The 4000m peaks of the Alps : selected climbs.|date=2012|publisher=Alpine Club|isbn=978-0-900523-66-3|oclc=877308113}}</ref>{{rp|199}}
Pennine Alps Central (Collomb 1975)
<ref name=Collomb>Robin G. Collomb, ''Pennine Alps Central'', London: Alpine Club, 1975, p. ???</ref>
Pennine Alps East
<ref>{{Cite book|last=Collomb|first=Robin|title=Pennine Alps East - Saas and Mischabel Chains|publisher=The Alpine Club|year=1979|isbn=900523131|location=London|pages=}}</ref>{{rp|123}}
Mont Blanc range. Vol. 1: (Collomb 1976)
<ref name="Collomb">{{Cite book|url=https://www.worldcat.org/oclc/25691643|title=Mont Blanc range. Vol. 1: Trelatete, Mont Blanc, Maudit, Tacul, Brenva;|last=Collomb|first=Robin|last2=O'Connor|first2=W.H.|date=|publisher=Alpine Club|year=1976|isbn=0900523204|location=London|pages=200|oclc=25691643}}</ref>
Mont Blanc Massif Vol 1 (Griffin1)
<ref name=Griffin1>{{cite book|last1=Griffin|first1=Lindsay|title=Mont Blanc Massif Volume 1|date=1990|publisher=Alpine Club|location=London|isbn=0900523573|accessdate=7 November 2015}}</ref>{{rp|199}}
Mont Blanc Massif Vol 2 (Griffin2)
<ref name=Griffin2>{{cite book|last1=Griffin|first1=Lindsay|title=Mont Blanc Massif Volume 2|date=1991|publisher=Alpine Club|location=London|isbn=0900523581|accessdate=11 November 2015}}</ref>{{rp|199}}
The Alpine 4000m Peaks (Goedeke)
<ref name=Goedeke>{{cite book|last1=Goedeke|first1=Richard|title=The Alpine 4000m Peaks by the Classic Routes|date=1990|publisher=Diadem Books|location=London|isbn=3763410074|edition=1st|accessdate=8 November 2015}}</ref>{{rp|199}}
Gaston Rubberfeet
<ref name=Rebuffat>{{cite book|last1=Rebuffat|first1=Gaston|title=The Mont Blanc Massif - The 100 Finest Routes|date=1991|publisher=Diadem Books|isbn=0906371392|edition=1974 English edition|accessdate=28 November 2015}}</ref>
Valais Alps East
<ref>{{cite book|last1=Swindin|first1=Les|last2=Flemming|first2=Peter|title=Valais Alps East:Selected Climbs|date=1999|publisher=The Alpine Club|isbn=978-0900523625|accessdate=6 March 2016}}</ref>
Valais Alps West (check date/ISBN against book)
<ref>{{cite book|last1=Swindin|first1=Les|last2=Flemming|first2=Peter|title=Valais Alps West:Selected Climbs|date=1999|publisher=The Alpine Club|isbn=978-0900523625|accessdate=6 March 2016}}</ref>
Moran Alps 4000
<ref>{{cite book|last1=Moran|first1=Martin|title=Alps 4000:75 peaks in 52 days|date=1994|publisher=David & Charles|isbn=071530268X}}</ref>
In Monte Viso's Horizon
<ref>{{cite book|last1=McLewin|first1=Will|title=In Monte Viso's Horizon|date=1991|publisher=Ernest Press|isbn=0948153091|accessdate=6 March 2016}}</ref>
Walliser Alpen
<ref>{{cite book|last1=Vaucher|first1=Michel|title=Walliser Alpen: Die 100 schönsten Touren|date=1983|publisher=Carta|location=France|isbn=3887310136|accessdate=6 March 2016}}</ref>
Baedeker's Switzerland
<ref>{{cite book|last1=Baedeker|first1=Karl|title=Switzerland (Baedeker's Switzerland)|date=1895|publisher=K Baedeker|location=Leipsic|edition=16|accessdate=6 March 2016}}</ref>
Tyndall's Glaciers of the Alps
<ref>{{cite book|last1=Tyndall F.R.S.|first1=John|title=The Glaciers of the Alps (Part 1)|date=1860|publisher=G. Routledge & Sons, Ltd.|location=New York|edition=New Universal Library|accessdate=6 March 2016}}</ref>
Chamonix Mont Blanc map (1:25,000).
<ref name=IGN-MB>{{cite map |title = chamonix - mont-blanc |map = 3630 ouest |map-url = |year = 1984 |url = |scale = 1:25,000 |series = Carte Topographique |version= |publisher= Institut Géographique National |edition= 2nd |location= Paris |language= French |isbn=}}
</ref>
Saint Gervais les Bains, Mont Blanc map (1:25,000).
<ref name=IGN-SGlB>{{cite map |title = saint gervais les bains - mont-blanc |map = 3531 est |map-url = |year = 1986 |url = |scale = 1:25,000 |series = Carte Topographique |version= |publisher= Institut Géographique National |edition= 2nd |location= Paris |language= French |isbn=}} </ref>
Alpine Climbing grades
on the [[Grade_(climbing)#International_French_adjectival_system_(IFAS)|French adjectival climbing scale]], is graded at F+/PD-
USGS Glaciers of the World (this link Alps:Italian Alps)
<ref name=usgs>{{Citation
| first1 = Rossana Serandrei | last1 = Barbero
| first2 = Georgio | last2 = Zanon
| author-link =
| editor-last = Williams | editor-first = R.S.
| editor2-last = Ferrigno | editor2-first = J.G.
| contribution = The Italian Alps
| contribution-url =
| series = U.S. Geological Survey Professional Paper 1386-H
| year = 1989 | pages = E39 | place =
| publisher = U.S. Geological Survey
| url = https://pubs.usgs.gov/pp/p1386e/alps.pdf
| title = Satellite Image Atlas of Glaciers of the World - Glaciers of the Alps
| doi = | ISBN= 0-607-71457-3 }}</ref>]]
on the French adjectival climbing scale, is graded at F+/PD-