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My article draft is at the very bottom, in case that wasn't obvious. I probably should have put it at the top but it's too late now lol

Article Evaluation

The article I'm looking at is for Agar.io. I modified the article too, though there's probably an easy way to tell that.

Is the article neutral? Are there any claims, or frames, that appear heavily biased toward a particular position?

It seems neutral to me. The only opinions being shared are quotes from a few of the various journalists that published articles about it. The article quotes one positive and one negative source, but doesn't appear to state any opinion of its own.

Is each fact referenced with an appropriate, reliable reference? Where does the information come from? Are these neutral sources? If biased, is that bias noted?

There are definitely a few places it could use a citation, particularly in the introductory paragraph. The first instance that springs to mind is when the article claims agar.io became "one of the most popular web and mobile games in its first year." While this is more than likely true (I remember how popular it was when it first came out) there's no source to back it up. Incidentally, adding a "citation needed" marker was the change I made to the article. However, this comes across more as bringing up common knowledge rather than expressing a personal opinion. The paragraph about viruses under "gameplay" isn't cited, which makes it stand out next to the rest of the section; the other two paragraphs have citations that link to articles explaining how the game works.

Check out the Talk page of the article. What kinds of conversations, if any, are going on behind the scenes about how to represent this topic?

It looks like a lot of it centers around the sources used and how much description of the game is too much. Since many of the sources are articles from video game journalism websites, one may not consider them all that credible. On the other hand, I've yet to see any other websites talk about Agar.io since it's a simple browser game. It was popular for a time, yes, but I can't even seem to find any articles about it outside of unverified video game websites. There may not be anything that can be done on that front. There's also a few threads (are they called threads here?) concerning the kind of information in the article. The "gameplay" section looks relatively fine now, but there's a thread from 2015 about whether it's too detailed or not. A user named Aohayoubrought up the fact that this is a wiki page, not a game guide. After seeing the kind of information they pointed out, I agree with the changes. Tiny details like the specific mass required to preform an action isn't necessary like it would be on, say, and article about a field of science or a historic experiment.

Article Editing

The problem with doing an article concerning internet culture is concrete sources are going to be hard to find.

  • To an extent, yes! Finding book sources will be next to impossible. But there should be a decent amount of Internet sources for the things you list below. Elizabeth.f.chamberlain ( talk)

Llamas with Hats

There's no page for it yet, so I can't link to it.

I found a post written by the creator of the series explaining why he made it, as well as a page about the card game it spawned. I think that combined with a brief plot summary would be a good start to the article.

  • This would absolutely work, yes. You'll also definitely want to link the IMDB page [1] and the TVTropes page [2]. You might actually reasonably model the page after the Charlie the Unicorn page, including sections on Plot, Characters, Production, and Reception. Elizabeth.f.chamberlain ( talk) 20:50, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

My Brother, My Brother, and Me

Another unwritten article.

There's plenty of information available about the McElroys, and MBMBAM itself is a show as well as a podcast. I think there's enough here for an article.

  • I think this actually has been done: My Brother, My Brother and Me, but it's not properly linked from the WikiProject: Internet Culture page because the request included (MBMBAM) in the title. You could theoretically add to this page, but it looks pretty thorough to me. Elizabeth.f.chamberlain ( talk) 20:50, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Flight Rising

I'm not so sure about this one, mostly because I don't have experience with it like I do the first two articles. I know it has two types of currency and multiple factions (called "flights?") that could be explained. I might fall back on this one if it becomes necessary, but it's more of a backup than anything else.

  • My vote is for Llamas with Hats! This would be OK, but I'd rather you write about something you already care about. Elizabeth.f.chamberlain ( talk) 20:50, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Article Draft

Miranda england/sandbox
Directed byJason Steele
Written byJason Steele
Produced byJason Steele
StarringChris Alex and Jason Steele
Music byJason Steele
Production
company
FilmCow
Release date
February 19, 2009 (episode 1) - February 12, 2015 (episode 12)

"Llamas with Hats" is a dark comedy, animated video series produced by FilmCow, an independent company created by Jason Steele. The first episode was released in 2009, with twelve episodes total [3]. The first video introduces Carl and Paul, two llamas that share an apartment, and focuses on Carl's reaction to Paul's murder of a human. It became progressively darker as time went on, with the final episode culminating into Carl's suicide some time after Paul has died [4].

Characters

Carl, voiced by Chris Alex [5], is a gray llama who wears a green hat. He describes himself as "a dangerous sociopath with a long history of violence" [6].

Paul, voiced by Jason Steele [5], is a brown llama who wears a pink hat. His name and gender are unknown until the third episode [7].

Plot

The first video opens with Paul confronting Carl over the dead body he has discovered in their living room [8]. After questioning Carl, Paul discovers that Carl has eaten the dead man's hands in addition to murdering him. Carl's actions escalate with each episode. In the second, Carl murders several people on a cruise ship before eventually causing its destruction with no survivors, as Carl disables all the other lifeboats [9]. The third has Carl destroy an unnamed South American country's government and gather the bodies of orphans for the purpose of constructing a "meat dragon" [7]. In the fourth, Carl destroys the city in which he and Paul live, allegedly as a surprise for Paul's birthday [6]. The fifth opens with Carl detailing a seemingly-harmless day, only to reveal he has created a rift in the fabric of the universe from which he may harvest the severed hands from countless babies [10]. In the sixth, Paul makes the decision to move out and Carl has completed the dragon first mentioned in episode three [11]. Subsequent episodes show Carl trying and failing to replace Paul [12], an attempt to reconcile [13], and Carl's further mental decay until he throws himself from a bridge in the finale after discovering Paul's remains [4].

Production

According to Steele, his vision for the series evolved after fans successfully predicted the fifth episode [14].

Steele recorded the audio for the series using Amadeus Pro and edited it all together in Final Cut Pro [15]. Adobe Flash was used to draw individual characters, while Adobe Photoshop was used to draw the backgrounds for the series [15]. The program Magpie Pro 2 was used for lip syncing, and the series itself was animated in Adobe After Effects [15].

Reception

The American television series The Good Wife made reference to the series in the episode "Killer Song," which aired on March 29th, 2011 [16]. The series also has a TvTropes page [17].

Two games were created by Steele following the success of the series, the Llamas with Hats: Hungry for Hands Card Game in 2017 [18] and Llamas with Hats: Cruise Catastrophe in 2013, a mobile game available in the iTunes store for Apple devices and the Google Play store for Android [19]. Steele released a set of text message stickers for Apple devices in 2017 [20].

References

  1. ^ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5256378/
  2. ^ http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WebAnimation/LlamasWithHats
  3. ^ "Llamas with Hats 1-12: The Complete Series". YouTube. 9 May 2015.
  4. ^ a b "Llamas with Hats 12". YouTube. 12 February 2015.
  5. ^ a b "Llamas with Hats". Internet Movie Database.
  6. ^ a b "Llamas with Hats 4". YouTube. 15 December 2010.
  7. ^ a b "Llamas with Hats 3". YouTube. 3 September 2010.
  8. ^ "Llamas with Hats". YouTube. 19 February 2009.
  9. ^ "Llamas with Hats 2". YouTube. 21 December 2009.
  10. ^ "Llamas with Hats 5". YouTube. 27 March 2014.
  11. ^ "Llamas with Hats 6". YouTube. 14 May 2014.
  12. ^ "Llamas with Hats 7". YouTube. 22 November 2014.
  13. ^ "Llamas with Hats 8". YouTube. 30 December 2014.
  14. ^ Steele, Jason (12 February 2015). "Llamas with Hats: An Explanation". www.filmcow.com.
  15. ^ a b c Steele, Jason (23 May 2011). "How to make a cartoon about llamas… | FilmCow.com". www.filmcow.com. Retrieved 2018-04-20.
  16. ^ Jr, James Whitmore (2011-03-29), Killer Song, Julianna Margulies, Matt Czuchry, Archie Panjabi, retrieved 2018-04-19
  17. ^ "Llamas with Hats (Web Animation) - TV Tropes". tvtropes.org. Retrieved 2018-04-20.
  18. ^ "Llamas with Hats: Hungry for Hands Card Game". YouTube. 23 March 2017.
  19. ^ "Llamas with Hats: Cruise Catastrophe iOS and Android Game". YouTube. 17 August 2013.
  20. ^ "Llamas with Hats Stickers on the App Store". App Store. Retrieved 2018-04-19.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

My article draft is at the very bottom, in case that wasn't obvious. I probably should have put it at the top but it's too late now lol

Article Evaluation

The article I'm looking at is for Agar.io. I modified the article too, though there's probably an easy way to tell that.

Is the article neutral? Are there any claims, or frames, that appear heavily biased toward a particular position?

It seems neutral to me. The only opinions being shared are quotes from a few of the various journalists that published articles about it. The article quotes one positive and one negative source, but doesn't appear to state any opinion of its own.

Is each fact referenced with an appropriate, reliable reference? Where does the information come from? Are these neutral sources? If biased, is that bias noted?

There are definitely a few places it could use a citation, particularly in the introductory paragraph. The first instance that springs to mind is when the article claims agar.io became "one of the most popular web and mobile games in its first year." While this is more than likely true (I remember how popular it was when it first came out) there's no source to back it up. Incidentally, adding a "citation needed" marker was the change I made to the article. However, this comes across more as bringing up common knowledge rather than expressing a personal opinion. The paragraph about viruses under "gameplay" isn't cited, which makes it stand out next to the rest of the section; the other two paragraphs have citations that link to articles explaining how the game works.

Check out the Talk page of the article. What kinds of conversations, if any, are going on behind the scenes about how to represent this topic?

It looks like a lot of it centers around the sources used and how much description of the game is too much. Since many of the sources are articles from video game journalism websites, one may not consider them all that credible. On the other hand, I've yet to see any other websites talk about Agar.io since it's a simple browser game. It was popular for a time, yes, but I can't even seem to find any articles about it outside of unverified video game websites. There may not be anything that can be done on that front. There's also a few threads (are they called threads here?) concerning the kind of information in the article. The "gameplay" section looks relatively fine now, but there's a thread from 2015 about whether it's too detailed or not. A user named Aohayoubrought up the fact that this is a wiki page, not a game guide. After seeing the kind of information they pointed out, I agree with the changes. Tiny details like the specific mass required to preform an action isn't necessary like it would be on, say, and article about a field of science or a historic experiment.

Article Editing

The problem with doing an article concerning internet culture is concrete sources are going to be hard to find.

  • To an extent, yes! Finding book sources will be next to impossible. But there should be a decent amount of Internet sources for the things you list below. Elizabeth.f.chamberlain ( talk)

Llamas with Hats

There's no page for it yet, so I can't link to it.

I found a post written by the creator of the series explaining why he made it, as well as a page about the card game it spawned. I think that combined with a brief plot summary would be a good start to the article.

  • This would absolutely work, yes. You'll also definitely want to link the IMDB page [1] and the TVTropes page [2]. You might actually reasonably model the page after the Charlie the Unicorn page, including sections on Plot, Characters, Production, and Reception. Elizabeth.f.chamberlain ( talk) 20:50, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

My Brother, My Brother, and Me

Another unwritten article.

There's plenty of information available about the McElroys, and MBMBAM itself is a show as well as a podcast. I think there's enough here for an article.

  • I think this actually has been done: My Brother, My Brother and Me, but it's not properly linked from the WikiProject: Internet Culture page because the request included (MBMBAM) in the title. You could theoretically add to this page, but it looks pretty thorough to me. Elizabeth.f.chamberlain ( talk) 20:50, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Flight Rising

I'm not so sure about this one, mostly because I don't have experience with it like I do the first two articles. I know it has two types of currency and multiple factions (called "flights?") that could be explained. I might fall back on this one if it becomes necessary, but it's more of a backup than anything else.

  • My vote is for Llamas with Hats! This would be OK, but I'd rather you write about something you already care about. Elizabeth.f.chamberlain ( talk) 20:50, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Article Draft

Miranda england/sandbox
Directed byJason Steele
Written byJason Steele
Produced byJason Steele
StarringChris Alex and Jason Steele
Music byJason Steele
Production
company
FilmCow
Release date
February 19, 2009 (episode 1) - February 12, 2015 (episode 12)

"Llamas with Hats" is a dark comedy, animated video series produced by FilmCow, an independent company created by Jason Steele. The first episode was released in 2009, with twelve episodes total [3]. The first video introduces Carl and Paul, two llamas that share an apartment, and focuses on Carl's reaction to Paul's murder of a human. It became progressively darker as time went on, with the final episode culminating into Carl's suicide some time after Paul has died [4].

Characters

Carl, voiced by Chris Alex [5], is a gray llama who wears a green hat. He describes himself as "a dangerous sociopath with a long history of violence" [6].

Paul, voiced by Jason Steele [5], is a brown llama who wears a pink hat. His name and gender are unknown until the third episode [7].

Plot

The first video opens with Paul confronting Carl over the dead body he has discovered in their living room [8]. After questioning Carl, Paul discovers that Carl has eaten the dead man's hands in addition to murdering him. Carl's actions escalate with each episode. In the second, Carl murders several people on a cruise ship before eventually causing its destruction with no survivors, as Carl disables all the other lifeboats [9]. The third has Carl destroy an unnamed South American country's government and gather the bodies of orphans for the purpose of constructing a "meat dragon" [7]. In the fourth, Carl destroys the city in which he and Paul live, allegedly as a surprise for Paul's birthday [6]. The fifth opens with Carl detailing a seemingly-harmless day, only to reveal he has created a rift in the fabric of the universe from which he may harvest the severed hands from countless babies [10]. In the sixth, Paul makes the decision to move out and Carl has completed the dragon first mentioned in episode three [11]. Subsequent episodes show Carl trying and failing to replace Paul [12], an attempt to reconcile [13], and Carl's further mental decay until he throws himself from a bridge in the finale after discovering Paul's remains [4].

Production

According to Steele, his vision for the series evolved after fans successfully predicted the fifth episode [14].

Steele recorded the audio for the series using Amadeus Pro and edited it all together in Final Cut Pro [15]. Adobe Flash was used to draw individual characters, while Adobe Photoshop was used to draw the backgrounds for the series [15]. The program Magpie Pro 2 was used for lip syncing, and the series itself was animated in Adobe After Effects [15].

Reception

The American television series The Good Wife made reference to the series in the episode "Killer Song," which aired on March 29th, 2011 [16]. The series also has a TvTropes page [17].

Two games were created by Steele following the success of the series, the Llamas with Hats: Hungry for Hands Card Game in 2017 [18] and Llamas with Hats: Cruise Catastrophe in 2013, a mobile game available in the iTunes store for Apple devices and the Google Play store for Android [19]. Steele released a set of text message stickers for Apple devices in 2017 [20].

References

  1. ^ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5256378/
  2. ^ http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WebAnimation/LlamasWithHats
  3. ^ "Llamas with Hats 1-12: The Complete Series". YouTube. 9 May 2015.
  4. ^ a b "Llamas with Hats 12". YouTube. 12 February 2015.
  5. ^ a b "Llamas with Hats". Internet Movie Database.
  6. ^ a b "Llamas with Hats 4". YouTube. 15 December 2010.
  7. ^ a b "Llamas with Hats 3". YouTube. 3 September 2010.
  8. ^ "Llamas with Hats". YouTube. 19 February 2009.
  9. ^ "Llamas with Hats 2". YouTube. 21 December 2009.
  10. ^ "Llamas with Hats 5". YouTube. 27 March 2014.
  11. ^ "Llamas with Hats 6". YouTube. 14 May 2014.
  12. ^ "Llamas with Hats 7". YouTube. 22 November 2014.
  13. ^ "Llamas with Hats 8". YouTube. 30 December 2014.
  14. ^ Steele, Jason (12 February 2015). "Llamas with Hats: An Explanation". www.filmcow.com.
  15. ^ a b c Steele, Jason (23 May 2011). "How to make a cartoon about llamas… | FilmCow.com". www.filmcow.com. Retrieved 2018-04-20.
  16. ^ Jr, James Whitmore (2011-03-29), Killer Song, Julianna Margulies, Matt Czuchry, Archie Panjabi, retrieved 2018-04-19
  17. ^ "Llamas with Hats (Web Animation) - TV Tropes". tvtropes.org. Retrieved 2018-04-20.
  18. ^ "Llamas with Hats: Hungry for Hands Card Game". YouTube. 23 March 2017.
  19. ^ "Llamas with Hats: Cruise Catastrophe iOS and Android Game". YouTube. 17 August 2013.
  20. ^ "Llamas with Hats Stickers on the App Store". App Store. Retrieved 2018-04-19.

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