Thanks for the friendly warning, Maunus. Maybe we could use an RfC or something? Or now that I'm providing an RS for most of the table, maybe it can stay?
Listen, I know how hard it is to edit with people you disagree with. I also know how hard it is to treat others with respect when they promote evil, racist, biased, unscientific viewpoints (or at least seem to). I've got a lot of experience editing on the religion pages, and you can imagine that there are POV wars there, too. Honestly, I don't know how I would behave if I were in your shoes, defending a minority viewpoint that I cared deeply about. It's got to be a struggle, and I appreciate all the professionalism and decorum you can bring the to process. In addition, I figure that you're defending the freedom and dignity of humanity against the evil of biological determinism (or something), and as a free and dignified human I'm glad you're on my side to that extent. It's too bad that we can't all get along and use WP policies to reach neutral, objective agreements, but given the subject matter it's no surprise that we're arguing, is it?
Also, I've changed my mind before on this topic, so maybe I'll change it again. If you can really find a good source that says EP is bunk, I'd like to think I'd be open-minded enough to give it honest consideration. Or even if you could identify the body of work that's being done that accepts the evolution of our social instincts while rejecting EP, that would be a real eye-opener for me, too. I'm not a lost case. I just need good sources. Leadwind ( talk) 16:46, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
The content you were debating on Volksdeutsche article was not the edit that I made today. I suggest you be more carefull with threats of sanctions,-- MyMoloboaccount ( talk) 19:14, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I just added more references. Including page numbers is a good idea. Cheers. Memills ( talk) 19:34, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Why are you protecting the KKK article about how dumb black people are? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.108.109.145 ( talk) 15:27, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
I do not "tone down" when someone is actively engaged in threatening other users in real life. Such threats are totally unacceptable - no compromise. ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:35, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
Hello, I'm just dropping by to let you know that I've nominated a page you tagged for notability issues in 2009 for deletion on that basis. Eniagrom ( talk) 17:42, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
When consensus has been reached by a group of editors ( see talk here) and a single user continues to unilaterally and systematically remove sourced content from an article that can be considered vandalism. A quick look at B. Fairbairn talk page (which he constantly erases) reveals that this user has been blocked several times due to his disruptive edits on several articles. Limongi ( talk) 14:25, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
Saludos, Maunus. Soy Yavidaxiu, de la wikipedia en español. Allá hemos encontrado numerosos plagios realizados por Gumr51 en artículos sobre Mesoamérica. Artículos completos han tenido que ser eliminados porque constituyen violaciones a los derechos de autor, en varios casos fue necesario realizar una limpieza de los artículos para eliminar la información plagiada. El modo de proceder de Gumr51 consiste en tomar fragmentos de textos de diversas procedencias, incluyendo otros artículos de la wikipedia; con esa información realiza una especie de collage y de esa manera da la apariencia de un texto original. En no pocos casos, las contribuciones de Gumr51 consisten en añadir información sobre temas relacionados lejanamente con el que trata un artículo.
Gumr51 está activo en wikipedia en inglés, donde se refugió argumentando que la wikipedia en español es autoritaria y poco proactiva, aunque como puedes ver en su discusión en español, intentamos explicarle que sus aportaciones no se apegaban a los estándares de wikipedia. Acá sigue tan feliz, pero creo que por razones lingüísticas, a ustedes les ha resultado más difícil detectar los pequeños plagios de este usuario. Varios de los artículos que redactó Gumr51 en español fueron traducidos por él mismo al inglés, y permanecen ahí. En es:wiki seguimos investigando los aportes de Gumr51 para evitar que nuestra enciclopedia viole los derechos de autor de otras fuentes. Les invitaría a que hicieran lo mismo ustedes. -- Yavidaxiu ( talk) 20:01, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
Is there any way to get something like that placed on a user? Something like an interaction ban? I don't want to go through some complicated process (if there is one) but the following edits are bordering on aspersion and harassment. This user has been following me around from article to article, misrepresenting my intentions, purposefully convoluting my logic, and pegging me as a troublesome editor to others, doing nothing but hounding my contribs for the last few days, jumping into discussions I have with others and obviously trying to provoke me, canvassing users I've had disputes with before to come "join in the bashing", leaving "warnings" about my editing on other user's talk pages - presumably to get them involved, constantly referencing the editor (me) as a "user with an agenda" in my AfD noms, and now instigating a pretty obvious "baiting technique" here... all of it in an increasingly passive-aggressive writing style. Note that the only personal attack I did make (this one here), I rescinded literally seconds later here... and yet, this user has dug it up from my contribs and is aggressively pasting it on article talk pages where I contribute... in a clear attempt to discredit any point I try to make. I don't normally get affected by this type of stuff, but it's getting a little insane now, and if there's any simple way to just have him "leave me alone," I'd appreciate it. As you can check in his contribs, these articles are not in his field of interest, and he's only there to hinder any progress I'm trying to make. I'm not trying to point fingers or anything, I just want the wikihounding to stop. If my edits are "against consensus" as he claims, then I will simply be told that by users that are not him or anyone he intentionally canvasses to come disagree with me. I considered taking an extended wiki-break, but I get the feeling this would just continue the second I come back. Bulldog123 07:37, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
I had noticed the Rfc about AlexCovarrubias, but since it was opened a month ago I had assumed that it had been closed in the meantime. Thank you for pointing out that this wasn't the case. Though it is disheartening to know that this problem has been around for so long without being solved. As an administrator yourself, can you ask another uninvolved administrator to look into this matter?-- LK ( talk) 18:54, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Informational note: this is to let you know that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Regards, See Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Harassment. Exxolon ( talk) 21:24, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
I opened a sandbox under my user name [1], and already placed an edited version of the article, please review and comment. I have found additional information and references, but will wait to see how it is coming. Thanks-- Raúl Gutiérrez ( talk) 17:23, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
What are you referring to when you claim there is consensus on wikipedia to merge articles about ethnic groups and national groups when they linguistically coincide? I suggest you take a look at Mongols, Koreans, Russians, Serbs, Turks, Albanians, Greeks and the rest of similliar articles. Citizenship and ethnicity are two different things. What's next? Merging Turkey (bird) with Turkey (country)? Alphasinus ( talk) 16:43, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
- You're not quoting the whole text:" The Russian people ( Russian: Pусские, Russkiye) are an ethnic group of the East Slavic peoples, primarily living in Russia and neighboring countries.
The English term Russians is used to refer to the citizens of Russia, regardless of their ethnicity; [1] the demonym Russian is translated into Russian as rossiyanin (россиянин, plural rossiyane), while the ethnic Russians are referred to as russkiye (sg. русский, russkiy). According to the 2002 census, ethnic Russians make up about 80% of the population of Russia. [2]"
- Is it ok with you if i model the Norwegian summary on the summary of Danes, Swedes, Austrians, Dutch people and etc?
- I've now modeled the Norwegian article after similiar articles mentioned above. I'm not sure what you had in mind but i hope you're sattisfied with it. I encourage you to take a look.
- I agree with you on the Danish issue. As far as i know Denmark was, like Norway, heavily influenced by the Hanseatic league during the middle ages, which afftected the Norse language and religion. In general, all cultures have foreign influences but they still have some uniqueness. I mean, many indiginous cultures in South America have been deprived on their religion, and perhaps even language, but they still inhibit some of their orignal custums.
- Do you think it would be fair to merge for example Brazilian people with Indigenous peoples in Brazil? Alphasinus ( talk) 00:46, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
Maunus, there's a guy over at macrofamily who keeps trying to push a marginal position into first place in the definition. He's using a single reference in Trask's dictionary about it meaning a very large family to make that the primary meaning rather than the most common usage which is a "proposed, often controversial family of deep time depth", in other words, a family of families like Nostratic or Amerind. He also keeps changing the attribution of Campbell & Mixco's dictionary from University of Utah Press to some press in Edinburg. I'm holding the book in my hand and he's only looking at something in Google Books, so it's quite frustrating when these "internet researchers" are wrong, but won't admit it. If you could weigh in over there, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. -- Taivo ( talk) 19:13, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
I am glad you are taking time to alleviate the disputes on the page but 1. Indefinite full protection seems like an excessive measure 2. it will be nice if you will post a sign that the page is protected.-- ComtesseDeMingrélie 17:21, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
Hi. May I respectfully ask why you keep reverting the E.O. Wilson quote from the Rushton article? It is cited in a reliable source and Wilson is a respected authority on the topic. You claimed the reason you removed the quote was because it was not complete, however even after I included everything the source said about the quote, you still removed it, telling me to make my case on the talk page. I made my case on the talk page and gave you and anyone else six days to respond and no one did. I would really appreciate it if you could explain on the talk page why you still object to this quote even after I put it in the context you said was missing. I'm very concerned that the Rushton article is very biased against a living person and violates WP:NPOV and WP:BLP because any quote critical of Rushton is included no matter how scathing, but highly credible less critical quotes are being removed. Mixaphone ( talk) 20:42, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
Hi. Lovely to have your kind comment. Too kind, of course. I look forward to continued crossing of paths. Keep up the good work. Itsmejudith ( talk) 13:57, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
Concerning this edit I agree about Altaic, but not Uralic, which is generally recognized. Please check again and perhaps adjust?-- Andrew Lancaster ( talk) 14:08, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
I understand that I deserve a block for five reverts but as far as I am aware, I am the only person who has received this notice thus far. If you look at the history of Georgians, you will see that the other two clowns have reverted many times as well. I take singling me out is a sign of your bias towards those propagandists which should have been evident from the beginning. If you want to block me, do so BUT block the others as well.-- ComtesseDeMingrélie 18:26, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
Hi Maunus!
I just tried to move Engke Khan, Emperor Xingyuan of Northern Yuan to Engke Khan, but I could not do so, because Engke Khan is already a redirect. This move is necessary for reasons of consistency: the articles on Khans preceding and following this Khan had "Emperor XY of Northern Yuan" as well, but were all redirected. (That I have spotted this is of course related to my second reverting at List of Mongolian monarchs. But the consistency matter remains anyway, so my request to you seems justified to me independently of whether or not my opinion prevails in that dispute.)
G Purevdorj ( talk) 10:41, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Post the same warning to other users and ask them to provide reasonable explanations. I did not start this and I cannot end it.-- ComtesseDeMingrélie 14:16, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
The text was not really sourced correctly. If you look at it accurately, it was posted as a quote of another study (as if it were present in an autosomal study from 2009, which is not). The Callegari Jacques study and its possible skewed results are explicitly mentioned in the article already:
[quote]According to an often quoted autosomal DNA study (from 2003) focused on the composition of the Brazilian population as a whole, "European contribution [...] is highest in the South (81% to 82%), and lowest in the North (68% to 71%). The African component is lowest in the South (11%), while the highest values are found in the Southeast (18%-20%). Extreme values for the Amerindian fraction were found in the South and Southeast (7%-8%) and North (17%-18%)". The researchers were cautious with the results as their samples came from paternity test takers which may have skewed the results partly.[/quote]
Now, to use it as a weapon to disqualify all other genetic studies is wrong to me. The other studies are valid, and they cover the whole population. This is what the User talk:200.150.38.226|talk] said:
[quote]Those studies are mostly with White Brazilians, that's why the so high European admixture[/quote]
That's a LIE! The aim is to disqualify all the studies, which I do not agree with. I have an interest in it, as I am Brazilian and thoroughly connected with the history of this place. Grenzer22 ( talk) 21:57, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Every body here claimes to use a sourses, but where are the sourses which prove that Rohl "invented" the term New Chronology? Or any body else? Even Morozov who realy scientificaly change chronology didn´t call that so! Nither Isaak Newton! I don´t mean the "frase" ,I mean the scientific term and scientific use of it, which started in 1995in "New chronology, ancient Russia, England and Rome". Where are the proves that somebody else used the term not "frase" ??? What is realy important is all of you do not understand that scientific term can introduce only the scientists, while your "history" and your "historians" are in fact nothing but the publicists and newspappermen based in ancient "sourses" inspite of contemporary ones. You should know what kind of "science" do any of these "knights of the pan", they cook up whatever from whatever. But not looking for the truth. Arceology and C14 and other "metods" if ever used honestly, just prove A.Fomenko´s New Chronology. For example when there was only one objective, imprejudiced C14 test which gave "absolut" dating of Shrade of Turin in between 12 and 14sentury it consisted with Fomenko dating, then the same with astronomical dating of CrabNebula http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap080217.html , beeng the remains of explosion of a star which they took in the past as Vithlehem star it confirms Fomenko´s dating of Jesus living. So i do not refer to terminology of historians-journalists collecting gossips and "frases" giving them scientific likeness, but to the scientific terminology. You catch? So what sort of sourses you want of me? My sourses are the books of A.Fomenko http://chronologia.su/ which I study from 12 years ago, go and learn! He is a greatest fundamental scientist and akademik ,mathematician, astronomist, first check they methods later read on. Every body hurrys up tu pick holes in conclusions of that SCIENTIFIC work but no one the METODS couse it is imposible!!! Everything what assure A.Fomenko can be scientificali verified, if not he himself says that that is assumption. Keep on rummage in this "historical" swamp, keep on looking the truth wathig TV, eating papers. Somebody here says I have poor english, sorry,I see the truth is less important for you than the style,but let me see how plentiful will be your language when you try to speak my language :) you will be not poor ,but ruin. Keep on and sorry again for my english — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iljuha ( talk • contribs) 17:07, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Hi Maunus,
I've added a new comment here under Neurobiology:
-- Cornince ( talk) 22:52, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
I feel for you, I really do. You're a smart guy, you've got access to good books, and (unlike other detractors) you actually put good, cited information on the page. I hope you can take a step back and get some perspective on this mess. Leadwind ( talk) 04:31, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the friendly warning, Maunus. Maybe we could use an RfC or something? Or now that I'm providing an RS for most of the table, maybe it can stay?
Listen, I know how hard it is to edit with people you disagree with. I also know how hard it is to treat others with respect when they promote evil, racist, biased, unscientific viewpoints (or at least seem to). I've got a lot of experience editing on the religion pages, and you can imagine that there are POV wars there, too. Honestly, I don't know how I would behave if I were in your shoes, defending a minority viewpoint that I cared deeply about. It's got to be a struggle, and I appreciate all the professionalism and decorum you can bring the to process. In addition, I figure that you're defending the freedom and dignity of humanity against the evil of biological determinism (or something), and as a free and dignified human I'm glad you're on my side to that extent. It's too bad that we can't all get along and use WP policies to reach neutral, objective agreements, but given the subject matter it's no surprise that we're arguing, is it?
Also, I've changed my mind before on this topic, so maybe I'll change it again. If you can really find a good source that says EP is bunk, I'd like to think I'd be open-minded enough to give it honest consideration. Or even if you could identify the body of work that's being done that accepts the evolution of our social instincts while rejecting EP, that would be a real eye-opener for me, too. I'm not a lost case. I just need good sources. Leadwind ( talk) 16:46, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
The content you were debating on Volksdeutsche article was not the edit that I made today. I suggest you be more carefull with threats of sanctions,-- MyMoloboaccount ( talk) 19:14, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I just added more references. Including page numbers is a good idea. Cheers. Memills ( talk) 19:34, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Why are you protecting the KKK article about how dumb black people are? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.108.109.145 ( talk) 15:27, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
I do not "tone down" when someone is actively engaged in threatening other users in real life. Such threats are totally unacceptable - no compromise. ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:35, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
Hello, I'm just dropping by to let you know that I've nominated a page you tagged for notability issues in 2009 for deletion on that basis. Eniagrom ( talk) 17:42, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
When consensus has been reached by a group of editors ( see talk here) and a single user continues to unilaterally and systematically remove sourced content from an article that can be considered vandalism. A quick look at B. Fairbairn talk page (which he constantly erases) reveals that this user has been blocked several times due to his disruptive edits on several articles. Limongi ( talk) 14:25, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
Saludos, Maunus. Soy Yavidaxiu, de la wikipedia en español. Allá hemos encontrado numerosos plagios realizados por Gumr51 en artículos sobre Mesoamérica. Artículos completos han tenido que ser eliminados porque constituyen violaciones a los derechos de autor, en varios casos fue necesario realizar una limpieza de los artículos para eliminar la información plagiada. El modo de proceder de Gumr51 consiste en tomar fragmentos de textos de diversas procedencias, incluyendo otros artículos de la wikipedia; con esa información realiza una especie de collage y de esa manera da la apariencia de un texto original. En no pocos casos, las contribuciones de Gumr51 consisten en añadir información sobre temas relacionados lejanamente con el que trata un artículo.
Gumr51 está activo en wikipedia en inglés, donde se refugió argumentando que la wikipedia en español es autoritaria y poco proactiva, aunque como puedes ver en su discusión en español, intentamos explicarle que sus aportaciones no se apegaban a los estándares de wikipedia. Acá sigue tan feliz, pero creo que por razones lingüísticas, a ustedes les ha resultado más difícil detectar los pequeños plagios de este usuario. Varios de los artículos que redactó Gumr51 en español fueron traducidos por él mismo al inglés, y permanecen ahí. En es:wiki seguimos investigando los aportes de Gumr51 para evitar que nuestra enciclopedia viole los derechos de autor de otras fuentes. Les invitaría a que hicieran lo mismo ustedes. -- Yavidaxiu ( talk) 20:01, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
Is there any way to get something like that placed on a user? Something like an interaction ban? I don't want to go through some complicated process (if there is one) but the following edits are bordering on aspersion and harassment. This user has been following me around from article to article, misrepresenting my intentions, purposefully convoluting my logic, and pegging me as a troublesome editor to others, doing nothing but hounding my contribs for the last few days, jumping into discussions I have with others and obviously trying to provoke me, canvassing users I've had disputes with before to come "join in the bashing", leaving "warnings" about my editing on other user's talk pages - presumably to get them involved, constantly referencing the editor (me) as a "user with an agenda" in my AfD noms, and now instigating a pretty obvious "baiting technique" here... all of it in an increasingly passive-aggressive writing style. Note that the only personal attack I did make (this one here), I rescinded literally seconds later here... and yet, this user has dug it up from my contribs and is aggressively pasting it on article talk pages where I contribute... in a clear attempt to discredit any point I try to make. I don't normally get affected by this type of stuff, but it's getting a little insane now, and if there's any simple way to just have him "leave me alone," I'd appreciate it. As you can check in his contribs, these articles are not in his field of interest, and he's only there to hinder any progress I'm trying to make. I'm not trying to point fingers or anything, I just want the wikihounding to stop. If my edits are "against consensus" as he claims, then I will simply be told that by users that are not him or anyone he intentionally canvasses to come disagree with me. I considered taking an extended wiki-break, but I get the feeling this would just continue the second I come back. Bulldog123 07:37, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
I had noticed the Rfc about AlexCovarrubias, but since it was opened a month ago I had assumed that it had been closed in the meantime. Thank you for pointing out that this wasn't the case. Though it is disheartening to know that this problem has been around for so long without being solved. As an administrator yourself, can you ask another uninvolved administrator to look into this matter?-- LK ( talk) 18:54, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Informational note: this is to let you know that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Regards, See Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Harassment. Exxolon ( talk) 21:24, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
I opened a sandbox under my user name [1], and already placed an edited version of the article, please review and comment. I have found additional information and references, but will wait to see how it is coming. Thanks-- Raúl Gutiérrez ( talk) 17:23, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
What are you referring to when you claim there is consensus on wikipedia to merge articles about ethnic groups and national groups when they linguistically coincide? I suggest you take a look at Mongols, Koreans, Russians, Serbs, Turks, Albanians, Greeks and the rest of similliar articles. Citizenship and ethnicity are two different things. What's next? Merging Turkey (bird) with Turkey (country)? Alphasinus ( talk) 16:43, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
- You're not quoting the whole text:" The Russian people ( Russian: Pусские, Russkiye) are an ethnic group of the East Slavic peoples, primarily living in Russia and neighboring countries.
The English term Russians is used to refer to the citizens of Russia, regardless of their ethnicity; [1] the demonym Russian is translated into Russian as rossiyanin (россиянин, plural rossiyane), while the ethnic Russians are referred to as russkiye (sg. русский, russkiy). According to the 2002 census, ethnic Russians make up about 80% of the population of Russia. [2]"
- Is it ok with you if i model the Norwegian summary on the summary of Danes, Swedes, Austrians, Dutch people and etc?
- I've now modeled the Norwegian article after similiar articles mentioned above. I'm not sure what you had in mind but i hope you're sattisfied with it. I encourage you to take a look.
- I agree with you on the Danish issue. As far as i know Denmark was, like Norway, heavily influenced by the Hanseatic league during the middle ages, which afftected the Norse language and religion. In general, all cultures have foreign influences but they still have some uniqueness. I mean, many indiginous cultures in South America have been deprived on their religion, and perhaps even language, but they still inhibit some of their orignal custums.
- Do you think it would be fair to merge for example Brazilian people with Indigenous peoples in Brazil? Alphasinus ( talk) 00:46, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
Maunus, there's a guy over at macrofamily who keeps trying to push a marginal position into first place in the definition. He's using a single reference in Trask's dictionary about it meaning a very large family to make that the primary meaning rather than the most common usage which is a "proposed, often controversial family of deep time depth", in other words, a family of families like Nostratic or Amerind. He also keeps changing the attribution of Campbell & Mixco's dictionary from University of Utah Press to some press in Edinburg. I'm holding the book in my hand and he's only looking at something in Google Books, so it's quite frustrating when these "internet researchers" are wrong, but won't admit it. If you could weigh in over there, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. -- Taivo ( talk) 19:13, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
I am glad you are taking time to alleviate the disputes on the page but 1. Indefinite full protection seems like an excessive measure 2. it will be nice if you will post a sign that the page is protected.-- ComtesseDeMingrélie 17:21, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
Hi. May I respectfully ask why you keep reverting the E.O. Wilson quote from the Rushton article? It is cited in a reliable source and Wilson is a respected authority on the topic. You claimed the reason you removed the quote was because it was not complete, however even after I included everything the source said about the quote, you still removed it, telling me to make my case on the talk page. I made my case on the talk page and gave you and anyone else six days to respond and no one did. I would really appreciate it if you could explain on the talk page why you still object to this quote even after I put it in the context you said was missing. I'm very concerned that the Rushton article is very biased against a living person and violates WP:NPOV and WP:BLP because any quote critical of Rushton is included no matter how scathing, but highly credible less critical quotes are being removed. Mixaphone ( talk) 20:42, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
Hi. Lovely to have your kind comment. Too kind, of course. I look forward to continued crossing of paths. Keep up the good work. Itsmejudith ( talk) 13:57, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
Concerning this edit I agree about Altaic, but not Uralic, which is generally recognized. Please check again and perhaps adjust?-- Andrew Lancaster ( talk) 14:08, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
I understand that I deserve a block for five reverts but as far as I am aware, I am the only person who has received this notice thus far. If you look at the history of Georgians, you will see that the other two clowns have reverted many times as well. I take singling me out is a sign of your bias towards those propagandists which should have been evident from the beginning. If you want to block me, do so BUT block the others as well.-- ComtesseDeMingrélie 18:26, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
Hi Maunus!
I just tried to move Engke Khan, Emperor Xingyuan of Northern Yuan to Engke Khan, but I could not do so, because Engke Khan is already a redirect. This move is necessary for reasons of consistency: the articles on Khans preceding and following this Khan had "Emperor XY of Northern Yuan" as well, but were all redirected. (That I have spotted this is of course related to my second reverting at List of Mongolian monarchs. But the consistency matter remains anyway, so my request to you seems justified to me independently of whether or not my opinion prevails in that dispute.)
G Purevdorj ( talk) 10:41, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Post the same warning to other users and ask them to provide reasonable explanations. I did not start this and I cannot end it.-- ComtesseDeMingrélie 14:16, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
The text was not really sourced correctly. If you look at it accurately, it was posted as a quote of another study (as if it were present in an autosomal study from 2009, which is not). The Callegari Jacques study and its possible skewed results are explicitly mentioned in the article already:
[quote]According to an often quoted autosomal DNA study (from 2003) focused on the composition of the Brazilian population as a whole, "European contribution [...] is highest in the South (81% to 82%), and lowest in the North (68% to 71%). The African component is lowest in the South (11%), while the highest values are found in the Southeast (18%-20%). Extreme values for the Amerindian fraction were found in the South and Southeast (7%-8%) and North (17%-18%)". The researchers were cautious with the results as their samples came from paternity test takers which may have skewed the results partly.[/quote]
Now, to use it as a weapon to disqualify all other genetic studies is wrong to me. The other studies are valid, and they cover the whole population. This is what the User talk:200.150.38.226|talk] said:
[quote]Those studies are mostly with White Brazilians, that's why the so high European admixture[/quote]
That's a LIE! The aim is to disqualify all the studies, which I do not agree with. I have an interest in it, as I am Brazilian and thoroughly connected with the history of this place. Grenzer22 ( talk) 21:57, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Every body here claimes to use a sourses, but where are the sourses which prove that Rohl "invented" the term New Chronology? Or any body else? Even Morozov who realy scientificaly change chronology didn´t call that so! Nither Isaak Newton! I don´t mean the "frase" ,I mean the scientific term and scientific use of it, which started in 1995in "New chronology, ancient Russia, England and Rome". Where are the proves that somebody else used the term not "frase" ??? What is realy important is all of you do not understand that scientific term can introduce only the scientists, while your "history" and your "historians" are in fact nothing but the publicists and newspappermen based in ancient "sourses" inspite of contemporary ones. You should know what kind of "science" do any of these "knights of the pan", they cook up whatever from whatever. But not looking for the truth. Arceology and C14 and other "metods" if ever used honestly, just prove A.Fomenko´s New Chronology. For example when there was only one objective, imprejudiced C14 test which gave "absolut" dating of Shrade of Turin in between 12 and 14sentury it consisted with Fomenko dating, then the same with astronomical dating of CrabNebula http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap080217.html , beeng the remains of explosion of a star which they took in the past as Vithlehem star it confirms Fomenko´s dating of Jesus living. So i do not refer to terminology of historians-journalists collecting gossips and "frases" giving them scientific likeness, but to the scientific terminology. You catch? So what sort of sourses you want of me? My sourses are the books of A.Fomenko http://chronologia.su/ which I study from 12 years ago, go and learn! He is a greatest fundamental scientist and akademik ,mathematician, astronomist, first check they methods later read on. Every body hurrys up tu pick holes in conclusions of that SCIENTIFIC work but no one the METODS couse it is imposible!!! Everything what assure A.Fomenko can be scientificali verified, if not he himself says that that is assumption. Keep on rummage in this "historical" swamp, keep on looking the truth wathig TV, eating papers. Somebody here says I have poor english, sorry,I see the truth is less important for you than the style,but let me see how plentiful will be your language when you try to speak my language :) you will be not poor ,but ruin. Keep on and sorry again for my english — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iljuha ( talk • contribs) 17:07, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Hi Maunus,
I've added a new comment here under Neurobiology:
-- Cornince ( talk) 22:52, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
I feel for you, I really do. You're a smart guy, you've got access to good books, and (unlike other detractors) you actually put good, cited information on the page. I hope you can take a step back and get some perspective on this mess. Leadwind ( talk) 04:31, 20 March 2011 (UTC)