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(incomplete subdivisions, but thoughts so far...)
Hope you don't mind me adding comments (brief ones). Skookum1 23:07, 12 April 2007 (UTC) Category:Geographic regions of British Columbia

Remaining issue is the Alaska Highway Corridor west from Muncho Lake to Lower Post, where the highway hits the Yukon and BAM!! you're in Watson Lake after a couple of thousand miles of not much...that's not really part of the Cassiar District though in administrative terms it probably is; what is it - the Liard? But that's a region that spans BC, YT and the NWT. Fort Nelson's part of the Peace Country, though not in the basin of the Peace River right? i.e. by dint of being in the Peace River Block, that sector of land added to the colony in whatever year it was (and too bad Douglas didn't get his way and get Alberta as he was trying to wangle out of London...). Atlin's another one that's eventually going to have a lot of entries; I'm always tempted to throw Skagway and Haines and Hyder and Dyea into the Category:Colony of British Columbia cat (must exist by now - ?? thought Fishhead64 would have done it if anyone), just for fun, as they weren't officially part of the United States until 1903 and were at least nominally part of BC, and in real-use terms were until the onslaught of the Americans who overran what was supposed to be the Colony of British Columbia, and before that oh-so-briefly the Stikine Territory, which yeah, used to include part of Yukon too. Always seen it as a pity that WAC didn't grandstand his way to semi-independence over the Columbia River Treaty and walk away with the Yukon as part of the deal ;-) Mind you, I've always seen it as a pity that London waffled on the Columbia River boundary, and demurred during the Civil War on preparations to retake Puget Sound if war broke out between the UK and US on the Atlantic, as it was about to during the Trent Affair...then there's this business of the Russian Navy showing up in SF during the Civil War, and that for sure made the Royal Navy go "no way" to a Puget Sound agenda, even had London shown interest (unless they sent another squadron and some landing troops, for war in earnest....but that wasn't London's style). So, all the categories look great; I see you chose Similkameen Country and maybe that's best for the article too; Similkameen District can even be a mini-disambig if I can think of a third entry, maybe just the Boundary-Similkameen District, even if that's ultimately a redirect to the electoral district (historically, early on, it was tied together, before the Okanagan and parts east were settled, though). "Country" is probably the safest usage in all cases because of confusion with the Land Districts and Regional Districts and Mining Districts; Cassiar Mining District and Stikine Mining District and Atlin Mining District and so on articles can exist, partly because we can dig up lists of officers/comissioners and also reported earnings, number of mines etc. Gotta get at Gold Commissioner, too....comlicated but to me "high" priority even to get done as a stub; the main colonial-era and early-provincial-era honcho out in the landscape, one-man government; and an interesting cast of characters, too. Skookum1 23:07, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Ferries in BC

Terminals

Precedent: Category:SkyTrain, if land matters, why not sea?
Also, South Ferry (Manhattan)
List of ferry terminals in British Columbia

One old joke was that if "The Angle" hadn't been there - the just into the centre of the Strait by the international boundary, they just would have built it all the way to Galiano and done bridges from there to Duncan...of course Georgia Strait bridge proposals is a worthy article subject, but I can't stomach the cast of characters ( Pat McGeer et al. - he has a stub but no juicy bio yet btw; his latest climate-change denial was typical); the terminal is just north of the boundary, or even perhaps just over it, or its jetties are; there's also a subtreaty of some kind between the US and Canada (or WA and BC) about transitting the waters of The Angle; there shouldn't have to be, since the Oregon Treaty stipulates that all commercial shipping (including passenger services) south of the 49th Parallel out to the sea is supposed to be unharrassed; this wasn't followed during the Salmon War either, when Canadian fishing and whalewatching boats were arrested by the Coast Guard near the San Juans; obviously the Oregon Treaty's clauses are only useful when they're wanted to be, huh? Anyway..... Skookum1 22:41, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
one news item on this from long ago had to do with ship vibrations affecting residents and buildings/foundations in the area; I think the same copy also came up with Horseshoe Bay but I can't remember how long ago; on BCTV/Global, maybe late '80s. Skookum1 22:41, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
There is a name for the Coho terminal, possibly just Bellville ferry terminal, anyway there was something in the Victoria media recently about renovating/remaking the terminal and it applied a proper name to it, or an interpretation of one ;)-- Keefer4 00:06, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Ferries

The actual ferries to be added to Category:BC Ferries, and their individual Class groupings.
Deletion discussion precedent-- Talk:Queen of Nanaimo.
Inclusion precedent: List of Washington State ferries with links to individual ferries, MV Caribou:

"Klatawa" is Chinook Jargon for "go, travel, walk, journey. Haven't seen "Kulleet" before but it may be Kwantlen Halqemeylem rather than Chinook, or something else; "kull" in the CJ is "hard" in both senses of rock-hard and "difficult", and "-et" could be like "-it", "-whit/wyck" (as in Klee Wyck) - "someone, one" (Klee=joy, laughter, klee wyck - laughing one; klimmin - smooth; kliminawhit - liar); one other possibility is a nativizition of "cooley-it - "one who runs", which would be a local CJ derivation if it's non-standard CJ; if the DoH notes on these ferry names says Kulleet means "runner" I made a pretty good guess, otherwise just puff'n'stuff; but Klatawa definitely is CJ. Skookum1 07:36, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Great stuff. Between you and Glavin, I'll never want for a Chinook translation (and education). I did some digging on Kulleet just now, and apparently it's taken from a Hul'qumi'num word (k'elits') from the Cowichan area, meaning sheltered bay. The ferry started its life on the Kuper Island run in the early 70's, so that might explain its name. There is also a Kulleet Bay, also known as Chemainus Bay over there.-- Keefer4 08:18, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


And don't forget to include [[Wikiproject Ships]] on each of these items' talkpages! Skookum1 07:24, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Ships

Buildings

List of historic hotels in Vancouver

Precedents: Category:Hotels in Toronto, Olympic Club Hotel

My Grandmother still uses Beer Parlour all the time-- 'I never went to a beer parlour while raising the kids... etc' and she's originally from Winnipeg (b.1925), although lived here since the 40's and has lived in logging camps etc, uses saltchuck. (That's not to imply anything about anyone else, though).-- Keefer4 23:13, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
That would include that one on Kingsway, the 1900 is it?, that's figured in various terrorist and c crime stories ;=) Very retro-'50s, still, in appearance, also. Skookum1

Communities

Yes, it is different, and there was controversy when the Kootenay Lake one was named, or when the other one was named; I'll dig it out later. Skookum1 18:07, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Geography

  • Active Pass Should really have its own. (Done), add width of channel, historic accidents, quotations about navigation, wildlife.

Miscellaneous

more than you'd realize in earlier years...on all lines. Skookum1 18:05, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, OK, but I meant in terms of pictures and stuff; there's BC Arch ones, unfortunately not 100 yrs old, in BC Arch of the Gibbs Creek disaster in the '20s, which was the first big wreck on the PGE, and someone sent me some pics of diesels being hauled out of Seton Lake, at the big bluffs); and for some reasons some unknown person at some point sent me a vid-link for the recent CNR dumping near Spences Bridge. BTW a neat article for someone to do (hint, hint) is Siska rail bridges or Siska rail crossings, whatever format fits any guidelines; I don't think Alexandra Suspension Bridge has been written although it may have a prov park article; has anyone done Hell's Gate Airtram - I know there's Hell's Gate (British Columbia) or Hell's Gate (Canada) as I think I put an image there. Skookum1 22:32, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Smithrite - How uniquely Vancouver or "BC" is the common use of this term for dumpster? I realize it's a company, but plenty of long-time Vancouverites use the term generically for any dumpster. 'Look at that guy in the smithrite'...'Just throw it in the smithrite..'. Ok, looked up a bit on them, and they basically only serve this area, so the term has simply come into synonymous use with dumpster by way of name recognition-association over the past 60 years.-- Keefer4 00:26, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
which means it should be in List of Canadian words or wherever that redirects to now; I've maintained for a long time that there
And speaking of garbage, Carney Waste Systems in Squamish, or its owner Mike Carney, is more notable than at might first seem and come to think of it there might be an article on him now because he's an Olympic ski team local; I knew him indirectly through Rob Boyd, whose brother Ian I knew/know well (haven't seen him in years; their parents were the operations mgr of Whistler and the head of the medical clinic); think some of the contracting for the snowcats - groomers - on the mountains was done by Carney as well, or at least I know it was a lot of the same drivers; even crazier than logging truck drivers, plunging straight down the mountain with the rake behind them on blizzardy nights with no visibility....yikes!). I'm not prepared to write a bio for him as his father Owen Carney an old family friend and, while a great guy, I don't know him well; tight with my folks from loggers' sports organizational acquaintance for many years. Owen was the founder of the waste systems company and their trucks also serviced Whistler for years, maybe still do although under another name? There's various big names in Squamish Valley entrepreneurdom that are very notable - Bill Davidson as I recall, although there's also a famous mining guy by that name (founder of Minto City), who was a hotshot logging guy; also "Big Al" MacIntosh and others; ditto with the Pemberton Valley where certain families go way back and are locally historically-notable in the same way that individual family/personal histories are among the adjoining First Nations (ahem). Anyway, just putting that in, although of course nobody says "put it in the carney"; among their notabilities is that they're Kanaka, although I didn't know that word when I first knew Owen was part Hawaiian; their family name is mentioned in Koppel's book Kanaka but Koppel didn't know where they went to, so it must be Owen's family, i.e. they go way back in BC history, although I don't know when the family came to Squamish; I seem to recall that Owen was from Saltspring when he was young so that fits... Skookum1 00:58, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
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This will be a to-do list for User:Keefer4.

Cats (meow)

(incomplete subdivisions, but thoughts so far...)
Hope you don't mind me adding comments (brief ones). Skookum1 23:07, 12 April 2007 (UTC) Category:Geographic regions of British Columbia

Remaining issue is the Alaska Highway Corridor west from Muncho Lake to Lower Post, where the highway hits the Yukon and BAM!! you're in Watson Lake after a couple of thousand miles of not much...that's not really part of the Cassiar District though in administrative terms it probably is; what is it - the Liard? But that's a region that spans BC, YT and the NWT. Fort Nelson's part of the Peace Country, though not in the basin of the Peace River right? i.e. by dint of being in the Peace River Block, that sector of land added to the colony in whatever year it was (and too bad Douglas didn't get his way and get Alberta as he was trying to wangle out of London...). Atlin's another one that's eventually going to have a lot of entries; I'm always tempted to throw Skagway and Haines and Hyder and Dyea into the Category:Colony of British Columbia cat (must exist by now - ?? thought Fishhead64 would have done it if anyone), just for fun, as they weren't officially part of the United States until 1903 and were at least nominally part of BC, and in real-use terms were until the onslaught of the Americans who overran what was supposed to be the Colony of British Columbia, and before that oh-so-briefly the Stikine Territory, which yeah, used to include part of Yukon too. Always seen it as a pity that WAC didn't grandstand his way to semi-independence over the Columbia River Treaty and walk away with the Yukon as part of the deal ;-) Mind you, I've always seen it as a pity that London waffled on the Columbia River boundary, and demurred during the Civil War on preparations to retake Puget Sound if war broke out between the UK and US on the Atlantic, as it was about to during the Trent Affair...then there's this business of the Russian Navy showing up in SF during the Civil War, and that for sure made the Royal Navy go "no way" to a Puget Sound agenda, even had London shown interest (unless they sent another squadron and some landing troops, for war in earnest....but that wasn't London's style). So, all the categories look great; I see you chose Similkameen Country and maybe that's best for the article too; Similkameen District can even be a mini-disambig if I can think of a third entry, maybe just the Boundary-Similkameen District, even if that's ultimately a redirect to the electoral district (historically, early on, it was tied together, before the Okanagan and parts east were settled, though). "Country" is probably the safest usage in all cases because of confusion with the Land Districts and Regional Districts and Mining Districts; Cassiar Mining District and Stikine Mining District and Atlin Mining District and so on articles can exist, partly because we can dig up lists of officers/comissioners and also reported earnings, number of mines etc. Gotta get at Gold Commissioner, too....comlicated but to me "high" priority even to get done as a stub; the main colonial-era and early-provincial-era honcho out in the landscape, one-man government; and an interesting cast of characters, too. Skookum1 23:07, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Ferries in BC

Terminals

Precedent: Category:SkyTrain, if land matters, why not sea?
Also, South Ferry (Manhattan)
List of ferry terminals in British Columbia

One old joke was that if "The Angle" hadn't been there - the just into the centre of the Strait by the international boundary, they just would have built it all the way to Galiano and done bridges from there to Duncan...of course Georgia Strait bridge proposals is a worthy article subject, but I can't stomach the cast of characters ( Pat McGeer et al. - he has a stub but no juicy bio yet btw; his latest climate-change denial was typical); the terminal is just north of the boundary, or even perhaps just over it, or its jetties are; there's also a subtreaty of some kind between the US and Canada (or WA and BC) about transitting the waters of The Angle; there shouldn't have to be, since the Oregon Treaty stipulates that all commercial shipping (including passenger services) south of the 49th Parallel out to the sea is supposed to be unharrassed; this wasn't followed during the Salmon War either, when Canadian fishing and whalewatching boats were arrested by the Coast Guard near the San Juans; obviously the Oregon Treaty's clauses are only useful when they're wanted to be, huh? Anyway..... Skookum1 22:41, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
one news item on this from long ago had to do with ship vibrations affecting residents and buildings/foundations in the area; I think the same copy also came up with Horseshoe Bay but I can't remember how long ago; on BCTV/Global, maybe late '80s. Skookum1 22:41, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
There is a name for the Coho terminal, possibly just Bellville ferry terminal, anyway there was something in the Victoria media recently about renovating/remaking the terminal and it applied a proper name to it, or an interpretation of one ;)-- Keefer4 00:06, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Ferries

The actual ferries to be added to Category:BC Ferries, and their individual Class groupings.
Deletion discussion precedent-- Talk:Queen of Nanaimo.
Inclusion precedent: List of Washington State ferries with links to individual ferries, MV Caribou:

"Klatawa" is Chinook Jargon for "go, travel, walk, journey. Haven't seen "Kulleet" before but it may be Kwantlen Halqemeylem rather than Chinook, or something else; "kull" in the CJ is "hard" in both senses of rock-hard and "difficult", and "-et" could be like "-it", "-whit/wyck" (as in Klee Wyck) - "someone, one" (Klee=joy, laughter, klee wyck - laughing one; klimmin - smooth; kliminawhit - liar); one other possibility is a nativizition of "cooley-it - "one who runs", which would be a local CJ derivation if it's non-standard CJ; if the DoH notes on these ferry names says Kulleet means "runner" I made a pretty good guess, otherwise just puff'n'stuff; but Klatawa definitely is CJ. Skookum1 07:36, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Great stuff. Between you and Glavin, I'll never want for a Chinook translation (and education). I did some digging on Kulleet just now, and apparently it's taken from a Hul'qumi'num word (k'elits') from the Cowichan area, meaning sheltered bay. The ferry started its life on the Kuper Island run in the early 70's, so that might explain its name. There is also a Kulleet Bay, also known as Chemainus Bay over there.-- Keefer4 08:18, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


And don't forget to include [[Wikiproject Ships]] on each of these items' talkpages! Skookum1 07:24, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Ships

Buildings

List of historic hotels in Vancouver

Precedents: Category:Hotels in Toronto, Olympic Club Hotel

My Grandmother still uses Beer Parlour all the time-- 'I never went to a beer parlour while raising the kids... etc' and she's originally from Winnipeg (b.1925), although lived here since the 40's and has lived in logging camps etc, uses saltchuck. (That's not to imply anything about anyone else, though).-- Keefer4 23:13, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
That would include that one on Kingsway, the 1900 is it?, that's figured in various terrorist and c crime stories ;=) Very retro-'50s, still, in appearance, also. Skookum1

Communities

Yes, it is different, and there was controversy when the Kootenay Lake one was named, or when the other one was named; I'll dig it out later. Skookum1 18:07, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Geography

  • Active Pass Should really have its own. (Done), add width of channel, historic accidents, quotations about navigation, wildlife.

Miscellaneous

more than you'd realize in earlier years...on all lines. Skookum1 18:05, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, OK, but I meant in terms of pictures and stuff; there's BC Arch ones, unfortunately not 100 yrs old, in BC Arch of the Gibbs Creek disaster in the '20s, which was the first big wreck on the PGE, and someone sent me some pics of diesels being hauled out of Seton Lake, at the big bluffs); and for some reasons some unknown person at some point sent me a vid-link for the recent CNR dumping near Spences Bridge. BTW a neat article for someone to do (hint, hint) is Siska rail bridges or Siska rail crossings, whatever format fits any guidelines; I don't think Alexandra Suspension Bridge has been written although it may have a prov park article; has anyone done Hell's Gate Airtram - I know there's Hell's Gate (British Columbia) or Hell's Gate (Canada) as I think I put an image there. Skookum1 22:32, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Smithrite - How uniquely Vancouver or "BC" is the common use of this term for dumpster? I realize it's a company, but plenty of long-time Vancouverites use the term generically for any dumpster. 'Look at that guy in the smithrite'...'Just throw it in the smithrite..'. Ok, looked up a bit on them, and they basically only serve this area, so the term has simply come into synonymous use with dumpster by way of name recognition-association over the past 60 years.-- Keefer4 00:26, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
which means it should be in List of Canadian words or wherever that redirects to now; I've maintained for a long time that there
And speaking of garbage, Carney Waste Systems in Squamish, or its owner Mike Carney, is more notable than at might first seem and come to think of it there might be an article on him now because he's an Olympic ski team local; I knew him indirectly through Rob Boyd, whose brother Ian I knew/know well (haven't seen him in years; their parents were the operations mgr of Whistler and the head of the medical clinic); think some of the contracting for the snowcats - groomers - on the mountains was done by Carney as well, or at least I know it was a lot of the same drivers; even crazier than logging truck drivers, plunging straight down the mountain with the rake behind them on blizzardy nights with no visibility....yikes!). I'm not prepared to write a bio for him as his father Owen Carney an old family friend and, while a great guy, I don't know him well; tight with my folks from loggers' sports organizational acquaintance for many years. Owen was the founder of the waste systems company and their trucks also serviced Whistler for years, maybe still do although under another name? There's various big names in Squamish Valley entrepreneurdom that are very notable - Bill Davidson as I recall, although there's also a famous mining guy by that name (founder of Minto City), who was a hotshot logging guy; also "Big Al" MacIntosh and others; ditto with the Pemberton Valley where certain families go way back and are locally historically-notable in the same way that individual family/personal histories are among the adjoining First Nations (ahem). Anyway, just putting that in, although of course nobody says "put it in the carney"; among their notabilities is that they're Kanaka, although I didn't know that word when I first knew Owen was part Hawaiian; their family name is mentioned in Koppel's book Kanaka but Koppel didn't know where they went to, so it must be Owen's family, i.e. they go way back in BC history, although I don't know when the family came to Squamish; I seem to recall that Owen was from Saltspring when he was young so that fits... Skookum1 00:58, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
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