Members of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Scouting have been discussing the possible renaming of all articles and categories under Category:Scouting by country several times. Recent discussions:
Worldwide, there are two distinct terms for female members of the Scouting Movement:
In some of the countries using Guiding, there is a strict distinction between Scouting and Guiding, mainly in the Commonwealth. While the common base of Scouting and Guiding is widely accepted, both are seen as distinct movements. In these countries, common usage of Scouting does not include Guiding.
Currently, the article titles within the category do not reflect the different terms for female members of the Scouting movement. Within the project, there has also been the feeling that the current situation may discourage the possible collaboration of editors from organizations using Guide.
A general problem with naming these articles are the necessary translations. For example, most Scandinavian organizations do not differ between male and female members in their native languages, but when using English they speak of Scouts and Guides (eg Svenska Scoutrådet translates to The Swedish Guide and Scout Council). Similar problems arise with German and French speaking organizations.
This poll shall support the future handling of article naming within this category.
This poll runs for 3 weeks. Voting is open from 3 February 2009, 03:12, UTC to 24 February 2009, 03:12
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The determining factor is the usage by the national Scouting and Guiding organizations, and the common meaning of the terms Scouting and Guiding in the country.
Examples:
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Usage in expatriate organizations (eg Hungarian Scouts/Guides in the US etc) is not surveyed. For a preliminary survey on the usage see User:Jergen/Scouting in X to Scouting and Guiding in X.
Please use User talk:Jergen/workshop/Poll.
Members of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Scouting have been discussing the possible renaming of all articles and categories under Category:Scouting by country several times. Recent discussions:
Worldwide, there are two distinct terms for female members of the Scouting Movement:
In some of the countries using Guiding, there is a strict distinction between Scouting and Guiding, mainly in the Commonwealth. While the common base of Scouting and Guiding is widely accepted, both are seen as distinct movements. In these countries, common usage of Scouting does not include Guiding.
Currently, the article titles within the category do not reflect the different terms for female members of the Scouting movement. Within the project, there has also been the feeling that the current situation may discourage the possible collaboration of editors from organizations using Guide.
A general problem with naming these articles are the necessary translations. For example, most Scandinavian organizations do not differ between male and female members in their native languages, but when using English they speak of Scouts and Guides (eg Svenska Scoutrådet translates to The Swedish Guide and Scout Council). Similar problems arise with German and French speaking organizations.
This poll shall support the future handling of article naming within this category.
This poll runs for 3 weeks. Voting is open from 3 February 2009, 03:12, UTC to 24 February 2009, 03:12
Pros:
Cons:
Pros:
Cons:
The determining factor is the usage by the national Scouting and Guiding organizations, and the common meaning of the terms Scouting and Guiding in the country.
Examples:
Pros:
Cons:
Usage in expatriate organizations (eg Hungarian Scouts/Guides in the US etc) is not surveyed. For a preliminary survey on the usage see User:Jergen/Scouting in X to Scouting and Guiding in X.
Please use User talk:Jergen/workshop/Poll.