Welcome Berrely. We will use this space to do our NPP work; I recommend you put it on your watchlist (I have done so already). I will normally try and put assignments in bold though follow-up question will just use normal Wikipedia conversation methods. Let me know at any point if you have questions. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 17:40, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
The first thing is to read, really read, WP:NPP and then let me know what you think are the two or three parts of that you feel your skills are the strongest and two or three where you could still grow. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 17:40, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
We'll start by doing some practical work with articles submitted through the Articles for Creation process. For each draft below say what you would have done if you had found these while doing New Page Patrol (there are a few differences in practice between AfC and NPP - for this assignment pretend they are not drafts but are instead in article space). This will give me a sense of your thinking and approach. From here (or perhaps after another set or two) we'll go to some focused generic exercises. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 19:38, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
Nice job with this first assignment. I can see you making good use of the flowchart. New assignment to come soon. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 01:43, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. As such, claims made in articles should be supported by independent (secondary), reliable sources for verification. Please read WP:RS, WP:IS, WP:RSP, WP:V, WP:PROVEIT, WP:Primary, WP:Secondary, and WP:Tertiary. Barkeep49 ( talk) 01:49, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
In the tables below, please indicate "y" for yes or "n" for no after "ind", "rel" and "sig" (see first example) and give a brief explanation of why you place "y" or "n" for each source. Hopefully this will be right up your alley. Barkeep49 ( talk) 01:49, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Frank Lloyd Wright (June 8, 1867 – April 9, 1959) was an American architect, interior designer, writer, and educator. Wright believed in designing structures that were in harmony with humanity and its environment, a philosophy he called organic architecture. His creative period spanned more than 70 years. He works includes The Guggenheim, swirling, snail-shaped museum in the middle of Manhattan. [1] [2] Fallingwater, which has been called "the best all-time work of American architecture." [3] This is one of Wright's most famous private residences (completed 1937), was built for Mr. and Mrs. Edgar J. Kaufmann, Sr., at Mill Run, Pennsylvania. Constructed over a 30-foot waterfall, it was designed according to Wright's desire to place the occupants close to the natural surroundings. The house was intended to be more of a family getaway, rather than a live-in home. [4]
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://nypost.com/2017/06/07/frank-lloyd-wright-was-a-house-builder-and-homewrecker/ | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://franklloydwright.org/work/ | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://web.archive.org/web/20080302053743/http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/jul2004/nf20040728_3153_db078.htm | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://books.google.com/books?id=KSA1HTTU-eMC | ![]() |
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✘ No |
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Jordan Lennon (born February 22, 2000), is a British film producer and actor. [1] Lennon is currently a member of BAFTA. [2] He continues to work aside 20th Century Fox, Warner Bros, Wicked Wales, Capture Studios, Cineworld, Paramount Pictures, and Rockefeller Foundation. [3]
At age 16, the Vice President of 20th Century Fox, Paul Higginson. Who previously worked on Star Wars, Titanic, and Independence Day took on Jordan and Rowan Snow as a mentor. [4] In December 2018, Jordan and Rowan finished British Film Academy. [5] Jordan lived in Skelmersdale for 10 years before moving to Rhyl, North Wales. He's currently writing 'Stranger in the Night' scrreenplay for Warner Brothers.
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.imdb.com/name/nm8902348/ | ![]() |
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✘ No |
http://www.bafta.org/wales | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-d-98111a125 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/Jordan-David/ | ![]() |
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✘ No |
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Sonny William Williams (born 3 August 1985), who is a Muslim [1], is a New Zealand All blacks rugby union footballer, [2] Williams was a Marist Saints junior when he was spotted playing in Auckland by Bulldogs talent scout John Ackland. [3] In 2002 he was offered a contract and moved to Sydney (as the youngest player to ever sign with an NRL club) to play in the Bulldogs' junior grades. [4]
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7505117/2019-Rugby-World-Cup-Sonny-Bill-Williams-expecting-fourth-child.html | ![]() |
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✘ No |
http://stats.allblacks.com/asp/Profile.asp?ABID=1108 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/warriors-league-team/news/article.cfm?c_id=360&objectid=10399308 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/10/01/1096527943523.html | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
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David Howell Petraeus AO ( /pɪˈtreɪ.əs/; born November 7, 1952) is a retired United States Army general and public official. He served as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency from September 6, 2011, [1] until his resignation on November 9, 2012 [2] after his affair with Paula Broadwell was reported. [3]
Petraeus was born in Cornwall-on-Hudson, New York, the son of Sixtus Petraeus (1915–2008), [4] a sea captain from Franeker, Netherlands. [5]
In 2003, Petraeus commanded the 101st Airborne Division in the
fall of Baghdad
[6]
[7]
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/11/09/david-petraeus-cia-resign-nbc/1695271/ | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2011/09/06/petraeus-sworn-into-cia.cnn?iref=allsearch | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/david-petraeus-paula-broadwell_n_2118893 | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.geni.com/people/Sixtus-Petraeus/6000000015418360012 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2010/05/petraeus-exclusive-201005 | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/beyond/interviews/petraeus.html | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/david-petraeus-general-surge-401740.html | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{ source assess table}}. |
References
Barkeep49 ( talk) 16:09, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
Martina Hingis is a Swiss former professional tennis player. [1] She won five Grand Slam singles titles. [2] Hingis was one of the highest-paid female athletes in 2000. [3] She retired in November 2007 after being hampered by a hip injury for several months and testing positive for a metabolite of cocaine during that year's Wimbledon Championships, [4] which led to a two-year suspension from the sport. [5]
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.instagram.com/martinahingis80/ | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.latimes.com/sports/more/la-sp-us-open-hingis-20170910-story.html | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://books.google.com.my/books?id=4x3fQ920EUMC&pg=PA197&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/21171438/tennis-another-twist-bizarre-career-martina-hingis | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2007/nov/01/tennis | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
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References
Barkeep49 ( talk) 16:09, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
@ Berrely: see my comments above. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 16:09, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
Berrely thanks for confirming that you've read them. Now that we've covered sources, can you apply your knowledge of GNG and SNGs? Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 17:30, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
For each of the above subjects assessed in the previous section, please identify whether they meet notability guidelines (and how/why), based solely on the sources included on this page (i.e. don't go looking for more sources).
Please explain in your own words why claims need to be verified?
Could we cite Wikipedia as a source? and why?
Give an example of a source that is reliable but not independent of a subject, and explain why.
Give an example of a source that is an independent source but not reliable and explain why. A tabloid newspaper like The Daily Mail. While it is independent, most of the content inside relies on rumours and unverified information
@ Berrely: let's go from your good work with the GNG to another kind of notability - subject-specific notability. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 15:51, 13 July 2020 (UTC) 1. Please categorize the subject-specific notability guidelines (listed at Category:Wikipedia notability guidelines) into the following three categories
A: Primarily additional criteria that are likely to indicate notability |
B: Primarily additional considerations that define or restrict the nature of coverage or sources required |
C: Even mix of the previous two categories
|
2. Virtually all SNGs that provide additional notability criteria specify that these criteria may indicate that the subject meets notability guidelines. How would you interpret this caveat as a new page reviewer?
1:
2. I assume by the word "may", the guidelines reference that the guidelines are suggestive, not prescriptive. Whilst they should generally followed, in the case an extremely specific example comes up that is not covered by the guidelines, editors may vote on a consensus to help suggest what should happen.
For scenarios 1-6 review just based on "subject notability guidelines" (SNG) "alone" for sake of the exercise. Do not consider any sources or other policies. Please answer if the subject meets the SNG guidelines based on the given content below, and specify which notability criteria they meet or fail.
For scenarios 7-11 specify which SNGs would establish the subject's notability.
An editor creates an article about "2024 Summer Olympics" in 2020 without providing any sources, is the subject considered not notable and why? After a thorough read of
WP:NSPORT I can't seem to find anywhere that demonstrates whether it would be notable or not.
A New York city-based 2020 start-up software company, specializing in data mining, has just received a USD 200K investor fund.
WP:MULTSOURCES deems editors should pay attention to bias. A 2020 software startup is likely subject to
recentism and would not be considered notable.
Movsar Evloev who is a
Ultimate Fighting Championships fighters with the undefeated
mixed martial arts record of
12-0. per
WP:NMMA as they have fought more than three professional fights for a top-tier MMA organization, they are considered notable.
An upcoming action-drama title "Suleiman the Great" based on the life of
Suleiman the Magnificent, which will be in production in August 2020 and to be released on March 2021 in the cinemas. Per
WP:NFF, upcoming films should not have articles and are not considered notable.
A political candidate, without any previous or current political position, who is running for November 2020 election for a Senator position in the United States with multiple local newspapers coverage of his candidacy.
WP:NPOL says that political candidates who have been at a national level are considered notable, but also Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage.
A singer who self-produced his first album in May 2019 and his songs are listed in
Spotify. if their songs are only listed in Spotify and haven't been documented in significant coverage by reliable sources, then they are not considered notable per
WP:SPOTIFY
Carlos Alós-Ferrer ,
WP:NACADEMIC
Three Mile Island accident ,
WP:EVENTCRIT
Apologies for getting back so late, I had some personal issues and didn't have time to finish this. I have filled in the above responses as I believed suitable, but I will admit I was a bit confused on this exercise. Looking forward to your feedback! Barkeep49 — Yours, Berrely • Talk∕ Contribs 17:12, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Berrely, using the NPP Feed go ahead and find 5 articles that make a claim to notability under 5 different SNGs (1 of these should be NCORP). Below, list the article, what SNG criteria specifically is being claimed, and whether or not it meets the criteria for that SNG (e.g. it meets NCRIC criteria 2 but not the others). If an article makes a claim to more than 1 SNG list them all. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 22:05, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
1.
Nancy Cu-Unjieng,
WP:BLP. Doesn't seem to be written from a
neutral point of view, exhibiting sentences and phrases such as "like minded", "desired to", "Cu has been very vocal on addressing various forms of animal rights violation, whether through horse fighting, dog consumption etc.". Almost all of the sources are
unreliable, with sources such as "mindfulness" news websites, the article subject's own website, LinkedIn, a radio interview, and others. Some sources may be reliable, but I am unsure, such as the Philippine Daily Inquirer. The claims made in the article seem to be sourced, though some sources are completely irrelevant to the claims.
2.
Coforge (now
Draft:Coforge),
WP:NCORP. At first glance seems to fail NCORP, but on closer inspection it seems it may borderline pass it. Ignoring all the sources from equity websites, there are multiple sources in significant coverages, from The New Indian Express, Firstpost and The Economic Times. A quick Google search reveals many more independent and reliable sources.
3.
Kaalam Neram Kadhal,
WP:WEB. Does not have multiple reliable sources, all its sources are from tabloids. Neither has it won any well known awards.
4.
The Day I Died: Unclosed Case,
WP:NFILM. The article seems to pass
WP:GNG, with sources that are independent and in significant coverage (however I am unaware of their reliability). However, it may be assumed the article fails
WP:NFF, as it is yet to be released, but since it has commenced principal photography, it passed NFF.
5.
1959 United Nations Security Council election,
WP:NEVENT. Though the article's sources do not show this, this was a very significant event, and passes NEVENT as it was of widespread international impact.
Alright Berrely here we go.
Please read WP:TITLE and answer the questions below
1. Article name "Hannibal Barca" - Does the article name need to be changed? Why? (please explain based on Wikipedia guidelines and name/link the guidelines in your answer)
Hannibal Barca was a Carthaginian general and statesman who is widely considered one of the greatest military commanders in history. His father, Hamilcar Barca, was a leading Carthaginian commander during the First Punic War (264–241 BC). [1] [2] [3]
References
Answer: Per
WP:COMMONNAME. The most common name and that used in the article is "Hannibal Barca" so that is what should be used.
Barkeep49 (
talk) 18:55, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
2. Article name "Magic Johnson". Does the article name need to be changed? Why? (please explain based on Wikipedia guidelines and name/link the guidelines in your answer)
Earvin "Magic" Johnson Jr. (born August 14, 1959) is an American retired professional basketball player and former president of basketball operations of the Los Angeles Lakers of the National Basketball Association (NBA). He played point guard for the Lakers for 13 seasons. [1] [2] [3] [4]
References
Answer: Once again no, with
WP:COMMONNAME coming into play once again. Regardless if it is their nickname, the most common name for a subject should be that used in an article.
Please read WP:BLP and answer the questions below.
3. Please explain if the content of the below text is acceptable for inclusion and why. (please explain based on Wikipedia guidelines and name/link the guidelines in your answer)
Conor Anthony McGregor (born 14 July 1988) is an Irish professional mixed martial artist and boxer. His is a former Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) featherweight and lightweight champion. [1]
On 15 August 2019, TMZ Sports published a video that appeared to show McGregor punching a man at The Marble Arch Pub in Dublin. [2] The incident happened on 6 April and was originally reported by Irish media, although without the video that showed the attack. Irish police stated in April that they had opened an investigation. [3] McGregor was charged with assault and first appeared in court on 11 October 2019. [4] [5] [6]
In April 2019, McGregor is the father of Terri Murray's son, Clodagh. Murray bedded McGregor in 2017 at his hotel after the Aintree Grand National just four weeks bofore McGregor's girlfriend Dee Devlin gave birth to their son.
References
Answer: Most claims are sourced (the latter is not, but I assume that a contributor is trying to follow
WP:CITELEAD and not use many references in the lead). The tone used is suitable for Wikipedia, as well as a
neutral point of view being maintained.
In April 2019, McGregor is the father of Terri Murray's son, Clodagh.wouldn't need a source.
Murray bedded McGregor in 2017 at his hotel after the Aintree Grand National just four weeks bofore McGregor's girlfriend Dee Devlin gave birth to their son.is salacious enough that I would suggest it does need an in-line source to an RS to be included. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 19:12, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
4. Please explain if the content of the below text is acceptable for inclusion and why. (please explain based on Wikipedia guidelines and name/link the guidelines in your answer)
Diana Nyad (née Sneed; born August 22, 1949) is an American author, journalist, motivational speaker, and long-distance swimmer who lives in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW in Washington, D.C. and could be contacted at +0-202-456-6213. [1] Nyad gained national attention in 1975 when she swam around Manhattan (28 mi or 45 km) and in 1979 when she swam from North Bimini, The Bahamas, to Juno Beach, Florida (102 mi (164 km)). In 2013, on her fifth attempt and at age 64, she became the first person confirmed to swim from Cuba to Florida without the aid of a shark cage, swimming from Havana to Key West (110 mi or 180 km). [2]
References
Answer:
Personal information and phone numbers are disclosed, the infringing information should be submitted to the
oversight team for suppresion.
Please read Wikipedia:Image use policy and Wikipedia:Public domain image resources. Please answer the questions below and (1) provide an explanation based on Wikipedia guidelines and (2) provide the guidelines/links in your answer.
5. Could
this image-1 be uploaded and used on Wikipedia? Why?
Answer:
https://www.defense.gov/ask-us/faq/Article/1775351/do-i-need-permission-to-use-photos-from-dod/ All content from the Department of Defense, unless stated otherwise, is in the public domain].
6. Could this image-2 be uploaded and used on Wikipedia? Why?
Answer:
the original image source says it is in the public domain
7. Could this image-3 be uploaded and used on Wikipedia? Why?
Answer:
All Pixabay images are released under CC-Zero
8. Could this image-4 be uploaded and used on Wikipedia? Why?
Answer: This is a private artist selling a painting, and as there is no license disclosed, the image cannot be used.
Please read WP:NPOV and MOS:PUFF. Point out the WP:NPOV words/phrases in Questions 9 & 10.
9. She is a brilliant boxer with a rare and exceptional beauty. She turned Pro at the age of 19 after winning one amateur fight on December 14, 2013 where she destroyed her opponent in 20 seconds. Her talent and marketability made her a fighter to watch right out the gate and she fought under XXX promotion on her next fight on February 2014.
Answer:
10. He is a popular, acclaimed Bulgarian actor, who loves by all who have watched his films. He was born in
Veliko Tarnovo and started working in the film industry since he was at the tender, innocent of the age of 14 and he has featured in 44 films.
Answer:
except featured in 44 films which would be fine. Best,
Barkeep49 (
talk) 20:15, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
11. Please read
WP:DUE and in your own words, please explain why it is important to provide balance and due weight content in an article.
Answer:
Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia that strives to prevent neutral content. Instead of providing undue wait to views of minorities, it should be given to more widely held views. If this was not followed, Wikipedia could be seen as biased and representing of views generally not followed.
Please read WP:OR and WP:NOT and answer the questions below
12. In your own words, why is Wikipedia not a platform for publishing original research? Answer: Encyclopaedias should be backed up by independent and reliable sources. Original research that cannot be verified should not be on Wikipedia as it could cause incorrect and factually inaccurate information to be included in a Wikipedia article.
13. In your own words, please provide one example with explanation when it is appropriate to insert an original research or an opinion in an article. Answer: When the source has been translated from another language into English, it is not considered original research.
14. See this video and write an article paragraph that properly presents claims supported by the source. Answer: When asked by an Islam Net reporter, Shady Alsuleiman said that clothing of muslim people must be baggy and loose, non-see-through, and to not draw attention with the usage of colours. He also claims that jeans and trousers cannot be worn but followers of Islam, as they are not baggy clothing. (I really struggled with this)
Please read WP:V and answer the questions below
15. Three independent, reliable sources say that a subject has 2 sons, but in reality, he has 3 sons. Could we change the content from "2" sons to "3 sons"? Why?
Answer: Unless the claim that they have 3 sons is backed up by other reliable sources, it should not be changed and the value provided by the other sources should be used.
Berrely I think we're set here. What would you like to move onto (unless you'd like more practice with any of these as I can give more scenarios). Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 17:16, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
1. In your own words, why is it important to WP:AGF and not WP:BITE new editors? Everyone was a new editor once, and in the mass of Wikipedia's policy and guidelines (so complex they are that users often have to even take part in schools to understand them!), a newcomer can easily get lost. It is important to help guide these new editors along their way, because, in all honestly, most of them just want to help.
2. How do we deal with a bad faith registered user and how do we deal with a bad faith IP editor? If they have gone over level 4 in warnings, then it is best to leave a note on their talk, asking them to stop. If they ignore the message or refuse to co-operate and continue being disruptive, taking the IP/registered user to AIV, AN3, AN or ANI for respective reasons, it sutiable.
Please review at least 5 recently submitted AfC drafts where you can leave a comment that helps communicate with the editor. List those drafts below
*
Draft:Gara (raag), the article seems to have good grammar, and it is readable, however it is not supported by any independent, reliable sources in significant coverage, so fails
WP:GNG. I would leave a comment with the creator saying that they needed to make sure the article pass GNG.
Have you installed Superlinks? I find it helpful for accessing the flowchart while doing reviews. Let's keep this simple. Pick 5 articles from the new side of the NPP queue and say how would proceed with them through the flowchart. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 19:09, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
Ok Berrely here are some people who make a claim to notability under NPROF. I believe this grouping will let us examine most of the criteria. As of this writing they're all unreviewed but if something gets reviewed before you get to it we'll still do the analysis and see if we agree. For each one talk through which NPROF criteria they're making a claim to and whether or not they seem to qualify under that criteria. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 01:29, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
@ Berrely: - sorry I was on real world vacation when this ping came in and kept thinking I would get back to it before I have. Do you want to do some more practice with NPROF people or move on to a different topic? Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 15:06, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
Berrely, at your leisure, find 25 new pages to patrol, and list them here. Note how you would handle them (i.e. tag for more sources and mark reviewed, AfD, etc) and give a little bit of explanation why. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 19:52, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
Welcome Berrely. We will use this space to do our NPP work; I recommend you put it on your watchlist (I have done so already). I will normally try and put assignments in bold though follow-up question will just use normal Wikipedia conversation methods. Let me know at any point if you have questions. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 17:40, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
The first thing is to read, really read, WP:NPP and then let me know what you think are the two or three parts of that you feel your skills are the strongest and two or three where you could still grow. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 17:40, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
We'll start by doing some practical work with articles submitted through the Articles for Creation process. For each draft below say what you would have done if you had found these while doing New Page Patrol (there are a few differences in practice between AfC and NPP - for this assignment pretend they are not drafts but are instead in article space). This will give me a sense of your thinking and approach. From here (or perhaps after another set or two) we'll go to some focused generic exercises. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 19:38, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
Nice job with this first assignment. I can see you making good use of the flowchart. New assignment to come soon. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 01:43, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. As such, claims made in articles should be supported by independent (secondary), reliable sources for verification. Please read WP:RS, WP:IS, WP:RSP, WP:V, WP:PROVEIT, WP:Primary, WP:Secondary, and WP:Tertiary. Barkeep49 ( talk) 01:49, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
In the tables below, please indicate "y" for yes or "n" for no after "ind", "rel" and "sig" (see first example) and give a brief explanation of why you place "y" or "n" for each source. Hopefully this will be right up your alley. Barkeep49 ( talk) 01:49, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Frank Lloyd Wright (June 8, 1867 – April 9, 1959) was an American architect, interior designer, writer, and educator. Wright believed in designing structures that were in harmony with humanity and its environment, a philosophy he called organic architecture. His creative period spanned more than 70 years. He works includes The Guggenheim, swirling, snail-shaped museum in the middle of Manhattan. [1] [2] Fallingwater, which has been called "the best all-time work of American architecture." [3] This is one of Wright's most famous private residences (completed 1937), was built for Mr. and Mrs. Edgar J. Kaufmann, Sr., at Mill Run, Pennsylvania. Constructed over a 30-foot waterfall, it was designed according to Wright's desire to place the occupants close to the natural surroundings. The house was intended to be more of a family getaway, rather than a live-in home. [4]
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://nypost.com/2017/06/07/frank-lloyd-wright-was-a-house-builder-and-homewrecker/ | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://franklloydwright.org/work/ | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://web.archive.org/web/20080302053743/http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/jul2004/nf20040728_3153_db078.htm | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://books.google.com/books?id=KSA1HTTU-eMC | ![]() |
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✘ No |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{ source assess table}}. |
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Jordan Lennon (born February 22, 2000), is a British film producer and actor. [1] Lennon is currently a member of BAFTA. [2] He continues to work aside 20th Century Fox, Warner Bros, Wicked Wales, Capture Studios, Cineworld, Paramount Pictures, and Rockefeller Foundation. [3]
At age 16, the Vice President of 20th Century Fox, Paul Higginson. Who previously worked on Star Wars, Titanic, and Independence Day took on Jordan and Rowan Snow as a mentor. [4] In December 2018, Jordan and Rowan finished British Film Academy. [5] Jordan lived in Skelmersdale for 10 years before moving to Rhyl, North Wales. He's currently writing 'Stranger in the Night' scrreenplay for Warner Brothers.
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.imdb.com/name/nm8902348/ | ![]() |
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✘ No |
http://www.bafta.org/wales | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-d-98111a125 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/Jordan-David/ | ![]() |
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✘ No |
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Sonny William Williams (born 3 August 1985), who is a Muslim [1], is a New Zealand All blacks rugby union footballer, [2] Williams was a Marist Saints junior when he was spotted playing in Auckland by Bulldogs talent scout John Ackland. [3] In 2002 he was offered a contract and moved to Sydney (as the youngest player to ever sign with an NRL club) to play in the Bulldogs' junior grades. [4]
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7505117/2019-Rugby-World-Cup-Sonny-Bill-Williams-expecting-fourth-child.html | ![]() |
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✘ No |
http://stats.allblacks.com/asp/Profile.asp?ABID=1108 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/warriors-league-team/news/article.cfm?c_id=360&objectid=10399308 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/10/01/1096527943523.html | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
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David Howell Petraeus AO ( /pɪˈtreɪ.əs/; born November 7, 1952) is a retired United States Army general and public official. He served as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency from September 6, 2011, [1] until his resignation on November 9, 2012 [2] after his affair with Paula Broadwell was reported. [3]
Petraeus was born in Cornwall-on-Hudson, New York, the son of Sixtus Petraeus (1915–2008), [4] a sea captain from Franeker, Netherlands. [5]
In 2003, Petraeus commanded the 101st Airborne Division in the
fall of Baghdad
[6]
[7]
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/11/09/david-petraeus-cia-resign-nbc/1695271/ | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2011/09/06/petraeus-sworn-into-cia.cnn?iref=allsearch | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/david-petraeus-paula-broadwell_n_2118893 | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.geni.com/people/Sixtus-Petraeus/6000000015418360012 | ![]() |
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✘ No |
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2010/05/petraeus-exclusive-201005 | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/beyond/interviews/petraeus.html | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/david-petraeus-general-surge-401740.html | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
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Barkeep49 ( talk) 16:09, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
Martina Hingis is a Swiss former professional tennis player. [1] She won five Grand Slam singles titles. [2] Hingis was one of the highest-paid female athletes in 2000. [3] She retired in November 2007 after being hampered by a hip injury for several months and testing positive for a metabolite of cocaine during that year's Wimbledon Championships, [4] which led to a two-year suspension from the sport. [5]
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.instagram.com/martinahingis80/ | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.latimes.com/sports/more/la-sp-us-open-hingis-20170910-story.html | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://books.google.com.my/books?id=4x3fQ920EUMC&pg=PA197&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false | ![]() |
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✘ No |
https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/21171438/tennis-another-twist-bizarre-career-martina-hingis | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2007/nov/01/tennis | ![]() |
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✔ Yes |
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References
Barkeep49 ( talk) 16:09, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
@ Berrely: see my comments above. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 16:09, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
Berrely thanks for confirming that you've read them. Now that we've covered sources, can you apply your knowledge of GNG and SNGs? Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 17:30, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
For each of the above subjects assessed in the previous section, please identify whether they meet notability guidelines (and how/why), based solely on the sources included on this page (i.e. don't go looking for more sources).
Please explain in your own words why claims need to be verified?
Could we cite Wikipedia as a source? and why?
Give an example of a source that is reliable but not independent of a subject, and explain why.
Give an example of a source that is an independent source but not reliable and explain why. A tabloid newspaper like The Daily Mail. While it is independent, most of the content inside relies on rumours and unverified information
@ Berrely: let's go from your good work with the GNG to another kind of notability - subject-specific notability. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 15:51, 13 July 2020 (UTC) 1. Please categorize the subject-specific notability guidelines (listed at Category:Wikipedia notability guidelines) into the following three categories
A: Primarily additional criteria that are likely to indicate notability |
B: Primarily additional considerations that define or restrict the nature of coverage or sources required |
C: Even mix of the previous two categories
|
2. Virtually all SNGs that provide additional notability criteria specify that these criteria may indicate that the subject meets notability guidelines. How would you interpret this caveat as a new page reviewer?
1:
2. I assume by the word "may", the guidelines reference that the guidelines are suggestive, not prescriptive. Whilst they should generally followed, in the case an extremely specific example comes up that is not covered by the guidelines, editors may vote on a consensus to help suggest what should happen.
For scenarios 1-6 review just based on "subject notability guidelines" (SNG) "alone" for sake of the exercise. Do not consider any sources or other policies. Please answer if the subject meets the SNG guidelines based on the given content below, and specify which notability criteria they meet or fail.
For scenarios 7-11 specify which SNGs would establish the subject's notability.
An editor creates an article about "2024 Summer Olympics" in 2020 without providing any sources, is the subject considered not notable and why? After a thorough read of
WP:NSPORT I can't seem to find anywhere that demonstrates whether it would be notable or not.
A New York city-based 2020 start-up software company, specializing in data mining, has just received a USD 200K investor fund.
WP:MULTSOURCES deems editors should pay attention to bias. A 2020 software startup is likely subject to
recentism and would not be considered notable.
Movsar Evloev who is a
Ultimate Fighting Championships fighters with the undefeated
mixed martial arts record of
12-0. per
WP:NMMA as they have fought more than three professional fights for a top-tier MMA organization, they are considered notable.
An upcoming action-drama title "Suleiman the Great" based on the life of
Suleiman the Magnificent, which will be in production in August 2020 and to be released on March 2021 in the cinemas. Per
WP:NFF, upcoming films should not have articles and are not considered notable.
A political candidate, without any previous or current political position, who is running for November 2020 election for a Senator position in the United States with multiple local newspapers coverage of his candidacy.
WP:NPOL says that political candidates who have been at a national level are considered notable, but also Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage.
A singer who self-produced his first album in May 2019 and his songs are listed in
Spotify. if their songs are only listed in Spotify and haven't been documented in significant coverage by reliable sources, then they are not considered notable per
WP:SPOTIFY
Carlos Alós-Ferrer ,
WP:NACADEMIC
Three Mile Island accident ,
WP:EVENTCRIT
Apologies for getting back so late, I had some personal issues and didn't have time to finish this. I have filled in the above responses as I believed suitable, but I will admit I was a bit confused on this exercise. Looking forward to your feedback! Barkeep49 — Yours, Berrely • Talk∕ Contribs 17:12, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Berrely, using the NPP Feed go ahead and find 5 articles that make a claim to notability under 5 different SNGs (1 of these should be NCORP). Below, list the article, what SNG criteria specifically is being claimed, and whether or not it meets the criteria for that SNG (e.g. it meets NCRIC criteria 2 but not the others). If an article makes a claim to more than 1 SNG list them all. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 22:05, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
1.
Nancy Cu-Unjieng,
WP:BLP. Doesn't seem to be written from a
neutral point of view, exhibiting sentences and phrases such as "like minded", "desired to", "Cu has been very vocal on addressing various forms of animal rights violation, whether through horse fighting, dog consumption etc.". Almost all of the sources are
unreliable, with sources such as "mindfulness" news websites, the article subject's own website, LinkedIn, a radio interview, and others. Some sources may be reliable, but I am unsure, such as the Philippine Daily Inquirer. The claims made in the article seem to be sourced, though some sources are completely irrelevant to the claims.
2.
Coforge (now
Draft:Coforge),
WP:NCORP. At first glance seems to fail NCORP, but on closer inspection it seems it may borderline pass it. Ignoring all the sources from equity websites, there are multiple sources in significant coverages, from The New Indian Express, Firstpost and The Economic Times. A quick Google search reveals many more independent and reliable sources.
3.
Kaalam Neram Kadhal,
WP:WEB. Does not have multiple reliable sources, all its sources are from tabloids. Neither has it won any well known awards.
4.
The Day I Died: Unclosed Case,
WP:NFILM. The article seems to pass
WP:GNG, with sources that are independent and in significant coverage (however I am unaware of their reliability). However, it may be assumed the article fails
WP:NFF, as it is yet to be released, but since it has commenced principal photography, it passed NFF.
5.
1959 United Nations Security Council election,
WP:NEVENT. Though the article's sources do not show this, this was a very significant event, and passes NEVENT as it was of widespread international impact.
Alright Berrely here we go.
Please read WP:TITLE and answer the questions below
1. Article name "Hannibal Barca" - Does the article name need to be changed? Why? (please explain based on Wikipedia guidelines and name/link the guidelines in your answer)
Hannibal Barca was a Carthaginian general and statesman who is widely considered one of the greatest military commanders in history. His father, Hamilcar Barca, was a leading Carthaginian commander during the First Punic War (264–241 BC). [1] [2] [3]
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Answer: Per
WP:COMMONNAME. The most common name and that used in the article is "Hannibal Barca" so that is what should be used.
Barkeep49 (
talk) 18:55, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
2. Article name "Magic Johnson". Does the article name need to be changed? Why? (please explain based on Wikipedia guidelines and name/link the guidelines in your answer)
Earvin "Magic" Johnson Jr. (born August 14, 1959) is an American retired professional basketball player and former president of basketball operations of the Los Angeles Lakers of the National Basketball Association (NBA). He played point guard for the Lakers for 13 seasons. [1] [2] [3] [4]
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Answer: Once again no, with
WP:COMMONNAME coming into play once again. Regardless if it is their nickname, the most common name for a subject should be that used in an article.
Please read WP:BLP and answer the questions below.
3. Please explain if the content of the below text is acceptable for inclusion and why. (please explain based on Wikipedia guidelines and name/link the guidelines in your answer)
Conor Anthony McGregor (born 14 July 1988) is an Irish professional mixed martial artist and boxer. His is a former Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) featherweight and lightweight champion. [1]
On 15 August 2019, TMZ Sports published a video that appeared to show McGregor punching a man at The Marble Arch Pub in Dublin. [2] The incident happened on 6 April and was originally reported by Irish media, although without the video that showed the attack. Irish police stated in April that they had opened an investigation. [3] McGregor was charged with assault and first appeared in court on 11 October 2019. [4] [5] [6]
In April 2019, McGregor is the father of Terri Murray's son, Clodagh. Murray bedded McGregor in 2017 at his hotel after the Aintree Grand National just four weeks bofore McGregor's girlfriend Dee Devlin gave birth to their son.
References
Answer: Most claims are sourced (the latter is not, but I assume that a contributor is trying to follow
WP:CITELEAD and not use many references in the lead). The tone used is suitable for Wikipedia, as well as a
neutral point of view being maintained.
In April 2019, McGregor is the father of Terri Murray's son, Clodagh.wouldn't need a source.
Murray bedded McGregor in 2017 at his hotel after the Aintree Grand National just four weeks bofore McGregor's girlfriend Dee Devlin gave birth to their son.is salacious enough that I would suggest it does need an in-line source to an RS to be included. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 19:12, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
4. Please explain if the content of the below text is acceptable for inclusion and why. (please explain based on Wikipedia guidelines and name/link the guidelines in your answer)
Diana Nyad (née Sneed; born August 22, 1949) is an American author, journalist, motivational speaker, and long-distance swimmer who lives in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW in Washington, D.C. and could be contacted at +0-202-456-6213. [1] Nyad gained national attention in 1975 when she swam around Manhattan (28 mi or 45 km) and in 1979 when she swam from North Bimini, The Bahamas, to Juno Beach, Florida (102 mi (164 km)). In 2013, on her fifth attempt and at age 64, she became the first person confirmed to swim from Cuba to Florida without the aid of a shark cage, swimming from Havana to Key West (110 mi or 180 km). [2]
References
Answer:
Personal information and phone numbers are disclosed, the infringing information should be submitted to the
oversight team for suppresion.
Please read Wikipedia:Image use policy and Wikipedia:Public domain image resources. Please answer the questions below and (1) provide an explanation based on Wikipedia guidelines and (2) provide the guidelines/links in your answer.
5. Could
this image-1 be uploaded and used on Wikipedia? Why?
Answer:
https://www.defense.gov/ask-us/faq/Article/1775351/do-i-need-permission-to-use-photos-from-dod/ All content from the Department of Defense, unless stated otherwise, is in the public domain].
6. Could this image-2 be uploaded and used on Wikipedia? Why?
Answer:
the original image source says it is in the public domain
7. Could this image-3 be uploaded and used on Wikipedia? Why?
Answer:
All Pixabay images are released under CC-Zero
8. Could this image-4 be uploaded and used on Wikipedia? Why?
Answer: This is a private artist selling a painting, and as there is no license disclosed, the image cannot be used.
Please read WP:NPOV and MOS:PUFF. Point out the WP:NPOV words/phrases in Questions 9 & 10.
9. She is a brilliant boxer with a rare and exceptional beauty. She turned Pro at the age of 19 after winning one amateur fight on December 14, 2013 where she destroyed her opponent in 20 seconds. Her talent and marketability made her a fighter to watch right out the gate and she fought under XXX promotion on her next fight on February 2014.
Answer:
10. He is a popular, acclaimed Bulgarian actor, who loves by all who have watched his films. He was born in
Veliko Tarnovo and started working in the film industry since he was at the tender, innocent of the age of 14 and he has featured in 44 films.
Answer:
except featured in 44 films which would be fine. Best,
Barkeep49 (
talk) 20:15, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
11. Please read
WP:DUE and in your own words, please explain why it is important to provide balance and due weight content in an article.
Answer:
Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia that strives to prevent neutral content. Instead of providing undue wait to views of minorities, it should be given to more widely held views. If this was not followed, Wikipedia could be seen as biased and representing of views generally not followed.
Please read WP:OR and WP:NOT and answer the questions below
12. In your own words, why is Wikipedia not a platform for publishing original research? Answer: Encyclopaedias should be backed up by independent and reliable sources. Original research that cannot be verified should not be on Wikipedia as it could cause incorrect and factually inaccurate information to be included in a Wikipedia article.
13. In your own words, please provide one example with explanation when it is appropriate to insert an original research or an opinion in an article. Answer: When the source has been translated from another language into English, it is not considered original research.
14. See this video and write an article paragraph that properly presents claims supported by the source. Answer: When asked by an Islam Net reporter, Shady Alsuleiman said that clothing of muslim people must be baggy and loose, non-see-through, and to not draw attention with the usage of colours. He also claims that jeans and trousers cannot be worn but followers of Islam, as they are not baggy clothing. (I really struggled with this)
Please read WP:V and answer the questions below
15. Three independent, reliable sources say that a subject has 2 sons, but in reality, he has 3 sons. Could we change the content from "2" sons to "3 sons"? Why?
Answer: Unless the claim that they have 3 sons is backed up by other reliable sources, it should not be changed and the value provided by the other sources should be used.
Berrely I think we're set here. What would you like to move onto (unless you'd like more practice with any of these as I can give more scenarios). Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 17:16, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
1. In your own words, why is it important to WP:AGF and not WP:BITE new editors? Everyone was a new editor once, and in the mass of Wikipedia's policy and guidelines (so complex they are that users often have to even take part in schools to understand them!), a newcomer can easily get lost. It is important to help guide these new editors along their way, because, in all honestly, most of them just want to help.
2. How do we deal with a bad faith registered user and how do we deal with a bad faith IP editor? If they have gone over level 4 in warnings, then it is best to leave a note on their talk, asking them to stop. If they ignore the message or refuse to co-operate and continue being disruptive, taking the IP/registered user to AIV, AN3, AN or ANI for respective reasons, it sutiable.
Please review at least 5 recently submitted AfC drafts where you can leave a comment that helps communicate with the editor. List those drafts below
*
Draft:Gara (raag), the article seems to have good grammar, and it is readable, however it is not supported by any independent, reliable sources in significant coverage, so fails
WP:GNG. I would leave a comment with the creator saying that they needed to make sure the article pass GNG.
Have you installed Superlinks? I find it helpful for accessing the flowchart while doing reviews. Let's keep this simple. Pick 5 articles from the new side of the NPP queue and say how would proceed with them through the flowchart. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 19:09, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
Ok Berrely here are some people who make a claim to notability under NPROF. I believe this grouping will let us examine most of the criteria. As of this writing they're all unreviewed but if something gets reviewed before you get to it we'll still do the analysis and see if we agree. For each one talk through which NPROF criteria they're making a claim to and whether or not they seem to qualify under that criteria. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 01:29, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
@ Berrely: - sorry I was on real world vacation when this ping came in and kept thinking I would get back to it before I have. Do you want to do some more practice with NPROF people or move on to a different topic? Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 15:06, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
Berrely, at your leisure, find 25 new pages to patrol, and list them here. Note how you would handle them (i.e. tag for more sources and mark reviewed, AfD, etc) and give a little bit of explanation why. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 19:52, 2 August 2021 (UTC)