Article: K'iche' People
We chose this article because the K'iche' people are a subgroup of the Mayan. The current Wiki page is very vague, and lacks reliable citations. I would like to go through and verify what little sources have been used, and add both new information and new sources. The history and people sections need expanded upon, and I'd like to add more on their society (everyday life), climate, presence today, etc. However, the information will depend on what we can find from the sources. One reliable source we have so far is a published field book called Roads to Change in Maya Guatemala by John P. Hawkins an Walter Randolph Adams.
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Utalan: The Constituted Community of the K’iche’ Maya of Q’umarkaj by Thomas F. Babcock
Missionary Exegesis of the Popol Vuh: Maya-K’iche’ Cultural and Religious Continuity in Colonial and Contemporary Highland Guatemala by Nestor Quiroa History of Religions Vol. 53, No. 1
Daily Life in Maya Civilization, 2nd Edition By Robert J. Sharer link: https://books.google.com/books?id=fmpFCQAAQBAJ&pg=PA126&dq=k%27iche%27+life&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjysO28quzWAhVl0oMKHZZuAXUQ6AEIJjAA#v=onepage&q=k'iche'%20life&f=false Bmdv23 ( talk) 00:29, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
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Copied the section of the article K'iche' people my group will be focused on editing. -- Esqm8 ( talk) 16:39, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
The below history section (mainly post-Columbian) from the K'iche' people article is what the group focused on improving and expanding. Hemnq9 ( talk) 18:13, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
The history of the K'iche' people can be divided into two main historical periods, pre-conquest and post-conquest. Conquest occurred in 1524 with the arrive of the conquistador Pedro de Alvarado. [1] -- Esqm8 ( talk) 16:48, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
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In pre-Conquest times, the K'iche' Kingdom of Q'umarkaj was one of the most powerful states in the region. K’iche' was an independent state that existed after the decline of the Maya Civilization with the Classic collapse (c.300 - c.950 AD). [2][ when?] K'iche' lay in a highland mountain valley of Guatemala, and during this time they were also found in parts of El Salvador. However, there is evidence for a large degree of cultural exchange between the K'iche' and the people of Central Mexico, and Nahuatl has influenced the K'iche' language greatly. [3] The Spanish conquerors described towns such as Q'umarkaj ( Utatlán), the capital of K'iche'. [4] They bordered the Kaqchikel.
The K'iche' were conquered by the conquistador Pedro de Alvarado in 1524. Their last military commander, Tecún Umán, led the K'iche' armies against the combined forces of Pedro de Alvarado and their Kaqchikel allies, in an epic battle in the valley of Xelajú ( Quetzaltenango). The K'iche' armies were defeated, and close to 10,000 K'iche' died, including Tecún Umán, who has since lived on as a legendary figure in the K'iche' oral tradition. After the battle, the K'iche' surrendered and invited Alvarado to their capital, Q'umarkaj. However, Alvarado suspected an ambush and had the city burned. The ruins of the city can still be seen, just a short distance from Santa Cruz del Quiché. [5]
One of the main missions of the Spanish clergy during the conquest was to convert the Mesoamerican people to Christianity. Though they never fully converted the people, they did leave an impact on their language. The K’iche’ people were one of the first groups studied by the Dominicans and they were used to establish Theologia Indorum, a Christian theology text written in the K’iche’ native language. [6] The text was meant to be a tool for transitioning the K’iche’ and other Mesoamerican groups to Christianity. [7] To accomplish this, the Dominicans attempted to change the meaning of some native words to better reflect their ideals. They also utilized similar word, sentence, and rhythmic structure to the Popol Vuh. [6] Esqm8 ( talk) 13:27, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
One of the most significant surviving Mesoamerican literary documents and primary sources of knowledge about Maya societal traditions, beliefs and mythological accounts is a product of the 16th century K'iche' people. This document, known as the Popol Vuh ("Pop wuj" in proper K'iche – "the book of events") and originally written around the 1550s, contains a compilation of mythological and ethno-historical narratives known to these people at that time, which were drawn from earlier pre-Columbian sources (now lost) and also oral traditional storytelling. This narrative includes a telling of their version of the creation myth, relating how the world and humans were created by the gods, the story of the divine brothers, and the history of the K'iche' from their migration into their homeland up to the Spanish conquest. [8]
The Popol Vuh, from its creation to present day, has evolved into an important symbol of indigenous culture for present-day Guatemalans and people of Mayan descent. This sacred text has been used in religious and spiritual ceremonies, university studies, political movements and protests, and historical research into the lives of the Mayans and, more specifically, the K'iche' people. It was declared the official book of Guatemala in 1971. The Popol Vuh has been used by the people of Mayan descent in present-day Guatemala as an argument to defend their land and political rights in order to preserve their indigenous culture. To this day, the Popol Vuh continues to be analyzed and studied to better understand spiritual beliefs and practices of the Maya, and how it has shaped present-day cultures. [8] Hemnq9 ( talk) 18:55, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
The major city of the K'iche' in the western highlands of Guatemala was Utatlan. It was the political, ceremonial and social center of the K'iche' people. Though many of the Spanish conquistadors records do not depict it as a great and powerful place, it was very much so to the native K'iche' who lived there. The city covered an estimated area of 3.25 km2 across the Resguardo plateau. Bmdv23 ( talk) 16:30, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
The major city of the K'iche' in the western highlands of Guatemala was Utatlan. It was the political, ceremonial and social center of the K'iche' people. Though many of the Spanish conquistadors records do not depict it as a great and powerful place, it was very much so to the native K'iche' who lived there. The city covered an estimated area of 3.25 km2 across the Resguardo plateau. The original beginnings of the elite K'iche' rulers is still up to debate but it is thought that the warlords traveled to the Guatemalan highlands in AD 1225. They began their migration after the collapse of the Yucatàn Maya center of Chichén Itzá, which is believed to have taken place around AD 1200. The elite warlords followed the Rio Usumacinta drainage, the Rio Negro and Rio Agua Caliente until they crossed into the San Andres Basin where they began early K'iche' settlements. These elite warlords were in small groups that were very mobile and consisted of mostly men. They began to intermingle with the local K'iche' populations soon after their arrival. A chronological list of the rulers can be made by using generation lengths from the first ruler and so on. [9]
Dates (AD) | Name |
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1225 - 1250 | B'alam Kitze |
1250 - 1275 | K'ok'oja |
1275 - 1300 | E,Tz'ikim |
1300 - 1325 | Ajkan |
1325 - 1350 | K'okaib' |
1350 - 1375 | K'onache |
1375 - 1400 | K'otuja |
1400 - 1425 | Quq'kumatz |
1425 - 1475 | K'iq'ab' |
1475 - 1500 | Vahxak' iKaam |
1500 - 1524 | Oxib Kej |
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What does it do well?
Changes that I suggest:
Most important thing they could do to improve?
Anything in the article applicable to your own article?
Peer review suggestions and who addressed them:
· There are numerous mentions of the Spanish conquistadors in the Pre-Columbian section. I think it’s relevant information, however just in the wrong place, since conquest is Post-Columbian.
· Make sure that the links to other wiki articles work before adding these sections into the actual article.
· There were a few grammar mistakes, if they were really small I fixed them myself.
· The wording of this sentence doesn’t entirely make sense to me. From the Post Columbian section: “The Popol Vuh has been used in the argument to the right to defend the land and political rights of Mayan descendants in present-day Guatemala in order to preserve their indigenous cultures.”
· For clarity, switch the order of the paragraphs in the Post-Columbian section so that it talks about the Spanish clergy first and then the Popul Vuh.
· Complete the History lead paragraph
· The table of K’iche’ Rulers needs a sentence or paragraph talking about rulers that leads up to it.
· Since the Popul Vuh is so important during both the pre- and post-Columbian time periods, it could possibly have it’s own little section on it and its relevance to the K’iche’ people. (Completed by HEM)
· When did the Spanish clergy get to the K’iche’? Did they arrive with Pedro de Alvarado?
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Article: K'iche' People
We chose this article because the K'iche' people are a subgroup of the Mayan. The current Wiki page is very vague, and lacks reliable citations. I would like to go through and verify what little sources have been used, and add both new information and new sources. The history and people sections need expanded upon, and I'd like to add more on their society (everyday life), climate, presence today, etc. However, the information will depend on what we can find from the sources. One reliable source we have so far is a published field book called Roads to Change in Maya Guatemala by John P. Hawkins an Walter Randolph Adams.
We are editing K'iche' People
What to improve:
Sources:
https://ebookcentral-proquest-com.libproxy.mst.edu/lib/umr-ebooks/reader.action?docID=3039761
Utalan: The Constituted Community of the K’iche’ Maya of Q’umarkaj by Thomas F. Babcock
Missionary Exegesis of the Popol Vuh: Maya-K’iche’ Cultural and Religious Continuity in Colonial and Contemporary Highland Guatemala by Nestor Quiroa History of Religions Vol. 53, No. 1
Daily Life in Maya Civilization, 2nd Edition By Robert J. Sharer link: https://books.google.com/books?id=fmpFCQAAQBAJ&pg=PA126&dq=k%27iche%27+life&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjysO28quzWAhVl0oMKHZZuAXUQ6AEIJjAA#v=onepage&q=k'iche'%20life&f=false Bmdv23 ( talk) 00:29, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
Bmdv23 ( talk) 16:21, 13 October 2017 (UTC) Bmdv23 ( talk) 00:29, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
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Copied the section of the article K'iche' people my group will be focused on editing. -- Esqm8 ( talk) 16:39, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
The below history section (mainly post-Columbian) from the K'iche' people article is what the group focused on improving and expanding. Hemnq9 ( talk) 18:13, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
The history of the K'iche' people can be divided into two main historical periods, pre-conquest and post-conquest. Conquest occurred in 1524 with the arrive of the conquistador Pedro de Alvarado. [1] -- Esqm8 ( talk) 16:48, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
This section needs additional citations for
verification. (December 2012) |
In pre-Conquest times, the K'iche' Kingdom of Q'umarkaj was one of the most powerful states in the region. K’iche' was an independent state that existed after the decline of the Maya Civilization with the Classic collapse (c.300 - c.950 AD). [2][ when?] K'iche' lay in a highland mountain valley of Guatemala, and during this time they were also found in parts of El Salvador. However, there is evidence for a large degree of cultural exchange between the K'iche' and the people of Central Mexico, and Nahuatl has influenced the K'iche' language greatly. [3] The Spanish conquerors described towns such as Q'umarkaj ( Utatlán), the capital of K'iche'. [4] They bordered the Kaqchikel.
The K'iche' were conquered by the conquistador Pedro de Alvarado in 1524. Their last military commander, Tecún Umán, led the K'iche' armies against the combined forces of Pedro de Alvarado and their Kaqchikel allies, in an epic battle in the valley of Xelajú ( Quetzaltenango). The K'iche' armies were defeated, and close to 10,000 K'iche' died, including Tecún Umán, who has since lived on as a legendary figure in the K'iche' oral tradition. After the battle, the K'iche' surrendered and invited Alvarado to their capital, Q'umarkaj. However, Alvarado suspected an ambush and had the city burned. The ruins of the city can still be seen, just a short distance from Santa Cruz del Quiché. [5]
One of the main missions of the Spanish clergy during the conquest was to convert the Mesoamerican people to Christianity. Though they never fully converted the people, they did leave an impact on their language. The K’iche’ people were one of the first groups studied by the Dominicans and they were used to establish Theologia Indorum, a Christian theology text written in the K’iche’ native language. [6] The text was meant to be a tool for transitioning the K’iche’ and other Mesoamerican groups to Christianity. [7] To accomplish this, the Dominicans attempted to change the meaning of some native words to better reflect their ideals. They also utilized similar word, sentence, and rhythmic structure to the Popol Vuh. [6] Esqm8 ( talk) 13:27, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
One of the most significant surviving Mesoamerican literary documents and primary sources of knowledge about Maya societal traditions, beliefs and mythological accounts is a product of the 16th century K'iche' people. This document, known as the Popol Vuh ("Pop wuj" in proper K'iche – "the book of events") and originally written around the 1550s, contains a compilation of mythological and ethno-historical narratives known to these people at that time, which were drawn from earlier pre-Columbian sources (now lost) and also oral traditional storytelling. This narrative includes a telling of their version of the creation myth, relating how the world and humans were created by the gods, the story of the divine brothers, and the history of the K'iche' from their migration into their homeland up to the Spanish conquest. [8]
The Popol Vuh, from its creation to present day, has evolved into an important symbol of indigenous culture for present-day Guatemalans and people of Mayan descent. This sacred text has been used in religious and spiritual ceremonies, university studies, political movements and protests, and historical research into the lives of the Mayans and, more specifically, the K'iche' people. It was declared the official book of Guatemala in 1971. The Popol Vuh has been used by the people of Mayan descent in present-day Guatemala as an argument to defend their land and political rights in order to preserve their indigenous culture. To this day, the Popol Vuh continues to be analyzed and studied to better understand spiritual beliefs and practices of the Maya, and how it has shaped present-day cultures. [8] Hemnq9 ( talk) 18:55, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
The major city of the K'iche' in the western highlands of Guatemala was Utatlan. It was the political, ceremonial and social center of the K'iche' people. Though many of the Spanish conquistadors records do not depict it as a great and powerful place, it was very much so to the native K'iche' who lived there. The city covered an estimated area of 3.25 km2 across the Resguardo plateau. Bmdv23 ( talk) 16:30, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
The major city of the K'iche' in the western highlands of Guatemala was Utatlan. It was the political, ceremonial and social center of the K'iche' people. Though many of the Spanish conquistadors records do not depict it as a great and powerful place, it was very much so to the native K'iche' who lived there. The city covered an estimated area of 3.25 km2 across the Resguardo plateau. The original beginnings of the elite K'iche' rulers is still up to debate but it is thought that the warlords traveled to the Guatemalan highlands in AD 1225. They began their migration after the collapse of the Yucatàn Maya center of Chichén Itzá, which is believed to have taken place around AD 1200. The elite warlords followed the Rio Usumacinta drainage, the Rio Negro and Rio Agua Caliente until they crossed into the San Andres Basin where they began early K'iche' settlements. These elite warlords were in small groups that were very mobile and consisted of mostly men. They began to intermingle with the local K'iche' populations soon after their arrival. A chronological list of the rulers can be made by using generation lengths from the first ruler and so on. [9]
Dates (AD) | Name |
---|---|
1225 - 1250 | B'alam Kitze |
1250 - 1275 | K'ok'oja |
1275 - 1300 | E,Tz'ikim |
1300 - 1325 | Ajkan |
1325 - 1350 | K'okaib' |
1350 - 1375 | K'onache |
1375 - 1400 | K'otuja |
1400 - 1425 | Quq'kumatz |
1425 - 1475 | K'iq'ab' |
1475 - 1500 | Vahxak' iKaam |
1500 - 1524 | Oxib Kej |
https://ebookcentral-proquest-com.libproxy.mst.edu/lib/umr-ebooks/reader.action?docID=3039761 Bmdv23 ( talk) 15:24, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
What does it do well?
Changes that I suggest:
Most important thing they could do to improve?
Anything in the article applicable to your own article?
Peer review suggestions and who addressed them:
· There are numerous mentions of the Spanish conquistadors in the Pre-Columbian section. I think it’s relevant information, however just in the wrong place, since conquest is Post-Columbian.
· Make sure that the links to other wiki articles work before adding these sections into the actual article.
· There were a few grammar mistakes, if they were really small I fixed them myself.
· The wording of this sentence doesn’t entirely make sense to me. From the Post Columbian section: “The Popol Vuh has been used in the argument to the right to defend the land and political rights of Mayan descendants in present-day Guatemala in order to preserve their indigenous cultures.”
· For clarity, switch the order of the paragraphs in the Post-Columbian section so that it talks about the Spanish clergy first and then the Popul Vuh.
· Complete the History lead paragraph
· The table of K’iche’ Rulers needs a sentence or paragraph talking about rulers that leads up to it.
· Since the Popul Vuh is so important during both the pre- and post-Columbian time periods, it could possibly have it’s own little section on it and its relevance to the K’iche’ people. (Completed by HEM)
· When did the Spanish clergy get to the K’iche’? Did they arrive with Pedro de Alvarado?
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This is where we will discuss addition to our section for K'iche' People article
Focus:
What we can specifically add to section: Based on Current Sources
Bmdv23 (
talk) 16:40, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
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Esqm8 (
talk) 16:55, 13 October 2017 (UTC)