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New York State is not the primary topic of the ambiguous term New York, so it requires disambiguation. Many editors now assume that New York links to the article on New York State, therefore New York should be the title of a disambiguation page. The title of the state article, currently called New York, requires a qualifier such as New York (state). The change will ease navigation and bring consistency with similar pages.
A recent RFC concluded that the state is not the primary topic for New York. The city is ahead of the state and all other meanings in both WP:PRIMARYTOPIC criteria: usage and long-term significance. The city is much better known than the state on a global scale, and the city's article receives two to three times as many views as the state's.
The RFC was inconclusive as to whether the city's lead is sufficient to make it the primary topic. To minimize disruption for readers and editors, this proposal takes no view on whether there is a primary topic.
New York should be the title of the page which is currently at
New York (disambiguation).
WP:ATDAB says that If the topic is not primary, the ambiguous name cannot be used and so must be disambiguated.
As the state is, by consensus, not the primary topic, this confirms that the state article cannot use the unqualified title
New York.
A recent cleanup fixed about 20,000 links to New York which were intended for the city, despite the article being about the state. More such links are being added daily. Use of the title New York for the state article clearly confuses both readers and editors.
Sending readers who search for New York directly to the state article places WP:UNDUE emphasis on the state over the city which is at least as important.
Having a disambiguation page at New York will automatically send a message to editors who link to it from articles, who will then have the opportunity to fix the link.
WP:ATDAB suggests a number of ways to qualify the title of the state article. The best choice is a matter of opinion. This proposal suggests New York (state) for four reasons:
The following arguments have been used to oppose previous proposals. Text in italics paraphrases editors' comments and is not direct quotation.
![]() | Obsoleted by NYRM2017, where sanity finally prevailed, and User:Andrewa/NYRM2018. Kept for historical reasons. |
New York State is not the primary topic of the ambiguous term New York, so it requires disambiguation. Many editors now assume that New York links to the article on New York State, therefore New York should be the title of a disambiguation page. The title of the state article, currently called New York, requires a qualifier such as New York (state). The change will ease navigation and bring consistency with similar pages.
A recent RFC concluded that the state is not the primary topic for New York. The city is ahead of the state and all other meanings in both WP:PRIMARYTOPIC criteria: usage and long-term significance. The city is much better known than the state on a global scale, and the city's article receives two to three times as many views as the state's.
The RFC was inconclusive as to whether the city's lead is sufficient to make it the primary topic. To minimize disruption for readers and editors, this proposal takes no view on whether there is a primary topic.
New York should be the title of the page which is currently at
New York (disambiguation).
WP:ATDAB says that If the topic is not primary, the ambiguous name cannot be used and so must be disambiguated.
As the state is, by consensus, not the primary topic, this confirms that the state article cannot use the unqualified title
New York.
A recent cleanup fixed about 20,000 links to New York which were intended for the city, despite the article being about the state. More such links are being added daily. Use of the title New York for the state article clearly confuses both readers and editors.
Sending readers who search for New York directly to the state article places WP:UNDUE emphasis on the state over the city which is at least as important.
Having a disambiguation page at New York will automatically send a message to editors who link to it from articles, who will then have the opportunity to fix the link.
WP:ATDAB suggests a number of ways to qualify the title of the state article. The best choice is a matter of opinion. This proposal suggests New York (state) for four reasons:
The following arguments have been used to oppose previous proposals. Text in italics paraphrases editors' comments and is not direct quotation.