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I feel there are some issues with the separation of the Schengen countries from other countries. Now the Schengen countries do not link to a visa policy article but to the country article, which I think is not very helpful. Moreover, several countries follow schengen policy by EU-law (bulgaria et al) and might be better suited there... Shall I try to i) rearrange and iia) non-link the Schengen countries or iib) link all schengen countries to the European Union visa lists page? L.tak ( talk) 17:40, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
I think that all of the List of passports and missing passports should be present in the template here (including the passport/citizenship-types that do not correspond to a particular territory - SMOM, British National (Overseas), British Subject, etc.)
I recently added Kosovo, but there are others missing. Alinor ( talk) 14:41, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
'British' passport-holders are actually 'UK' passport-holders. People from Northern Ireland have the same passport as those from Great Britain. 182.240.29.141 ( talk) 02:31, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Why are the entries in this template grouped by region? It seems to me that a user would come to this template with a particular country in mind, not a region (and they may not even be sure what region the country falls into), so a simple alphabetical listing would be more helpful. Colonies Chris ( talk) 19:56, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
United States should be listes as "American". Every nationality is represented by its demonym except the US. Correctron ( talk) 01:14, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
Hello. What are your thoughts on the grouping of European countries? - EU/other Europe compared to geographic grouping for the other regions.
I recently added EFTA as a European group, but it was then removed by Norvikk. As long as EU countries are grouped together in this template, it feels like EFTA countries should be too. I understand that EFTA is not a union like the EU, but as this template is about visa requirements that shouldn’t make a difference. Other countries impose different visa requirements on citizens from different EU countries, and there is no uniform visa policy in the EU. Some are part of the Schengen area, UK and Ireland have their own travel area, and some of the newer members maintain their own visa policies.
While all EFTA countries has the same visa policy towards other countries (all part of the EUs Schengen area), they all gets reciprocity from the same countries. And hence, the visa requirements imposed on EFTA citizens should actually be more similar to each other than those of imposed on citizens from EU countries. Also, to say that the EFTA countries have an open border with the Schengen area is simply wrong, as all EFTA states are *members* of Schengen. Other countries, like Andorra is not a member of Schengen but has chosen to have an open border.
If the template should group European countries after union/organizational memberships etc, it would make more sense to group countries with a common visa policy, such as Schengen countries together (reciprocity is negotiated to be given all Schengen members). The most logical to me would be to group European countries after geography like the other regions/continents. I can't see how a divide between EU and other Europe make senses when it comes to visa requirements, as other countries impose different visa requirements on countries within the EU. Megyeye ( talk) 13:37, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
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I agree with Norvikk. There is no such thing as EFTA citizenship (even though Norwegian, Icelandic, Swiss citizens are granted similar rights in practice through a series of contracts).-- Twofortnights ( talk) 21:13, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
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I feel there are some issues with the separation of the Schengen countries from other countries. Now the Schengen countries do not link to a visa policy article but to the country article, which I think is not very helpful. Moreover, several countries follow schengen policy by EU-law (bulgaria et al) and might be better suited there... Shall I try to i) rearrange and iia) non-link the Schengen countries or iib) link all schengen countries to the European Union visa lists page? L.tak ( talk) 17:40, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
I think that all of the List of passports and missing passports should be present in the template here (including the passport/citizenship-types that do not correspond to a particular territory - SMOM, British National (Overseas), British Subject, etc.)
I recently added Kosovo, but there are others missing. Alinor ( talk) 14:41, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
'British' passport-holders are actually 'UK' passport-holders. People from Northern Ireland have the same passport as those from Great Britain. 182.240.29.141 ( talk) 02:31, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Why are the entries in this template grouped by region? It seems to me that a user would come to this template with a particular country in mind, not a region (and they may not even be sure what region the country falls into), so a simple alphabetical listing would be more helpful. Colonies Chris ( talk) 19:56, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
United States should be listes as "American". Every nationality is represented by its demonym except the US. Correctron ( talk) 01:14, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
Hello. What are your thoughts on the grouping of European countries? - EU/other Europe compared to geographic grouping for the other regions.
I recently added EFTA as a European group, but it was then removed by Norvikk. As long as EU countries are grouped together in this template, it feels like EFTA countries should be too. I understand that EFTA is not a union like the EU, but as this template is about visa requirements that shouldn’t make a difference. Other countries impose different visa requirements on citizens from different EU countries, and there is no uniform visa policy in the EU. Some are part of the Schengen area, UK and Ireland have their own travel area, and some of the newer members maintain their own visa policies.
While all EFTA countries has the same visa policy towards other countries (all part of the EUs Schengen area), they all gets reciprocity from the same countries. And hence, the visa requirements imposed on EFTA citizens should actually be more similar to each other than those of imposed on citizens from EU countries. Also, to say that the EFTA countries have an open border with the Schengen area is simply wrong, as all EFTA states are *members* of Schengen. Other countries, like Andorra is not a member of Schengen but has chosen to have an open border.
If the template should group European countries after union/organizational memberships etc, it would make more sense to group countries with a common visa policy, such as Schengen countries together (reciprocity is negotiated to be given all Schengen members). The most logical to me would be to group European countries after geography like the other regions/continents. I can't see how a divide between EU and other Europe make senses when it comes to visa requirements, as other countries impose different visa requirements on countries within the EU. Megyeye ( talk) 13:37, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
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I agree with Norvikk. There is no such thing as EFTA citizenship (even though Norwegian, Icelandic, Swiss citizens are granted similar rights in practice through a series of contracts).-- Twofortnights ( talk) 21:13, 21 March 2017 (UTC)