The result of the move request was: Withdrawing this, as it seems that the section below addresses my needs. {{3x|p}}ery ( talk) 21:37, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
– Template organization; these are only used directly on Template:Article page template class/Article template library, which itself is connected to the {{ Article page template}} family. {{3x|p}}ery ( talk) 00:19, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
There is coding inside that creates the paths of templates to be called. They are not called directly. As some templates do not seem to be linked to each other, moving them to different names breaks functionality. ManosHacker talk 00:32, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Regarding [Template:Article page template class/Article template library], libraries are being created by declaring them (as classes), and all belong in the same template space. This is "Template:Article page template class" for the time being. A better name for this space is welcome. Please avoid Etitnotice conflict here, too. ManosHacker talk 06:36, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Editnotice conflict can be avoided by using plural, i.e. "Article page templates" instead of 'Article page template". ManosHacker talk 08:07, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
{{#ifeq: {{PAGENAME}} | {{BASEPAGENAME}}
|
and }}
, the templates names proposed above do not get the editnotice. If implemented this way (or any similar way like titleparts), the naming of the two templates proposed (not global library itself move) is fine for me.
ManosHacker
talk 20:23, 5 March 2018 (UTC)Template | Previous name | Explanation |
---|---|---|
Assistive | ||
Template:Collapse-mobile | collapsible functionality, original from meta, without show/hide that diplays well in mobiles, even if always expanded | |
Template:Help-collapsible | collapsible help functionality, supporting nested help levels | |
Template:Smallbox-mobile | Template:Sandbox smallbox | tiny message box, for inline use, that does not hide in mobile view |
Template:Invisible | smallbox-mobile, which is only visible in user space
| |
Template:Delay safesubst | code substitution, in two save steps, which displays and behaves well in user sandbox+ preview | |
Optical help | ||
Template:Key press | ||
Template:Visual edit | ||
Template:TabButton | ||
Template:BlueButton | ||
Template:WhiteButton | ||
Template:VeButton | ||
Sandbox | ||
Template:User sandbox+ | base template that detects space (i.e. main / user / user sub-sandbox), edit mode or not, and page creation origin space, and adapts functionality
| |
Template:User sandbox+/doc | template documentation | |
Template:User sandbox+/preload | default page content for creation of user's main sandbox | |
Template:User sandbox+/create page | Template:Create sandbox subpage | handles new page creation centrally
|
Template:User sandbox+/create page/from library | Template:Create sandbox subpage item , Template:Custom page template (program) | page creation from library of article templates
|
Template:User sandbox+/create page/from user palette | Template:Custom page template (user) | page creation from user's palette of page templates
|
Template:User sandbox+/create page/new page instructions (useve) | Template:Create sandbox subpage item/New page instructions (useve) | instructions during page creation, for VE |
Template:User sandbox+/create page/new page instructions (usece) | Template:Create sandbox subpage item/New page instructions (usece) | instructions during page creation, for CE |
Template:User sandbox+/flush page | Template:Flush sub-sandbox | instructions to hide a sub-sandbox form central sandbox list
|
Template:User sandbox+/move page to article | Template:Move sandbox to article | foolproof move of a user sandbox to main (article) space
|
Article page templates | ||
Template:Article page templates/display/group | Template:Create sandbox subpage level | |
Template:Article page templates/user custom/host page matrix | Template:Custom page templates/User hostpage matrix | |
Template:Article page templates/user custom/display available | Template:Custom page templates/existing | |
Template:Article page templates/create/matrix | Template:Article page templates matrix | |
Template:Article page templates/create/talkpage matrix | Template:Article page templates talkpage matrix | |
Template:Article page templates/empty page | Template:Article page template/empty page | |
Template:Article page templates/generic article | Template:Article page template/generic article | |
Template:Article page templates/generic article (codeedit) | Template:Article page template/generic article (codeedit) | |
Template talk:Article page templates/empty page | Template talk:Article page template/empty page | |
Template talk:Article page templates/generic article | Template talk:Article page template/generic article | |
Template talk:Article page templates/generic article (codeedit) | Template talk:Article page template/generic article (codeedit) | |
Template:Article page templates/libraries/create/matrix | Template:Article page template class/preload | |
Template:Article page templates/libraries/Article template library | Template:Article page template class/Article template library | |
Group template editnotice | ||
Template:Editnotices/Group/Template:Article page templates | Template:Editnotices/Group/Template:Article page template | |
Template:Article page templates | Template:Article page template |
How about this structure? Is plural more accurate? Files are the same (renamed) and two of them are merged into one. ManosHacker talk 17:40, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I was in a hurry this morning and I missed point 2.
Thanks once again Pppery. ManosHacker talk 21:33, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
Posted new proposed table of names above. Still somewhat unsure about what the two templates I've marked with question marks should be. {{3x|p}}ery ( talk) 23:14, 8 March 2018 (UTC) I don't understand what {{ Custom page templates/User hostpage matrix}} does, but it seems like it should be part of the {{ User sandbox+}} family. {{3x|p}}ery ( talk) 03:25, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
Or this:
if nesting limit allows now, after the latest solutions, the merging of the three creation templates. ManosHacker talk 09:11, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
{{Article template/pages path/{{{1}}}
over {{#ifeq:{{{1}}}|user|Template:Article templates/pages/|User:{{ROOTPAGENAME}}/Custom page templates/}}
{{3x|p}}ery (
talk) 21:01, 9 March 2018 (UTC)I can start with this. I am not sure if user palette templates are to be below libraries or not. ManosHacker talk 09:18, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
#ifeq
statements and calls to template with dynamic names consume the same number of expansion depth slots. If you add more options, you could use a #switch
./path
templates, which I've thus
nominated for deletion.
Pppery you have been very helpful. I am about to move the rest, plus fix the code inside templates, as well as users who have non-working versions of custom palettes. If you please have a look here:
Template talk:Article page template to solve this as well. Thank you.
ManosHacker
talk 16:58, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
In regard with the nesting of parsing functions, the test showed that a total (default lib + custom lib + user palette) of about 120 Article page templates can be supported. ManosHacker talk 17:28, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
This
edit request to
Template:User sandbox+/hoverhighlight.js has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Please change content model of Template:User sandbox+/hoverhighlight.js to Javascript rather than Wikitext. {{3x|p}}ery ( talk) 23:24, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
Is there a way to have additional templates appear here by default or parts of templates? I am preparing an editathon and we will be working with new users on urban parks, so I wanted the Template:Infobox park and some general park parts to appear automatically, similar to how they do for some other natural areas. --- FULBERT ( talk) 18:17, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Here you are, dear FULBERT: Template:Article templates/Park. It now resides inside general library (places section). You can edit the template page directly (use wiki code editor to avoid mistakes) to adapt it for your editathon. Use the help code below for your trainees, if you like, I am now preparing also the videos for preparing editathons.
Article Nursery Garden
|
---|
Install |
Seed article in user space |
Locate seeded article |
Edit article |
Move completed article to main space
Extras Add hover highlighting |
ManosHacker talk 18:35, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
One follow-up ManosHacker; do you suggest I manually add the {{user sandbox+}} directly to the new user sandbox pages myself before the actual session, if possible, to make it easier for them to start? --- FULBERT ( talk) 20:36, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
{{
User sandbox+}}
and {{
preloaddraft}}
@
ManosHacker: I only just came across this template set. Great work! If you've not seen it yet {{
preloaddraft}}
comes at the same problem from a slightly different angle (redlink lists, see origins in
this signpost article). It looks as though the
Category:Preloaddraft templates and
Template:Article templates should be combined, and possible the general workings and syntax of both systems so that they're as intuitive as possible for users. What do you think?
T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)
talk 05:59, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
{{
infobox person/wikidata}}
.
T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)
talk 23:25, 17 September 2019 (UTC)The result of the move request was: Withdrawing this, as it seems that the section below addresses my needs. {{3x|p}}ery ( talk) 21:37, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
– Template organization; these are only used directly on Template:Article page template class/Article template library, which itself is connected to the {{ Article page template}} family. {{3x|p}}ery ( talk) 00:19, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
There is coding inside that creates the paths of templates to be called. They are not called directly. As some templates do not seem to be linked to each other, moving them to different names breaks functionality. ManosHacker talk 00:32, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Regarding [Template:Article page template class/Article template library], libraries are being created by declaring them (as classes), and all belong in the same template space. This is "Template:Article page template class" for the time being. A better name for this space is welcome. Please avoid Etitnotice conflict here, too. ManosHacker talk 06:36, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Editnotice conflict can be avoided by using plural, i.e. "Article page templates" instead of 'Article page template". ManosHacker talk 08:07, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
{{#ifeq: {{PAGENAME}} | {{BASEPAGENAME}}
|
and }}
, the templates names proposed above do not get the editnotice. If implemented this way (or any similar way like titleparts), the naming of the two templates proposed (not global library itself move) is fine for me.
ManosHacker
talk 20:23, 5 March 2018 (UTC)Template | Previous name | Explanation |
---|---|---|
Assistive | ||
Template:Collapse-mobile | collapsible functionality, original from meta, without show/hide that diplays well in mobiles, even if always expanded | |
Template:Help-collapsible | collapsible help functionality, supporting nested help levels | |
Template:Smallbox-mobile | Template:Sandbox smallbox | tiny message box, for inline use, that does not hide in mobile view |
Template:Invisible | smallbox-mobile, which is only visible in user space
| |
Template:Delay safesubst | code substitution, in two save steps, which displays and behaves well in user sandbox+ preview | |
Optical help | ||
Template:Key press | ||
Template:Visual edit | ||
Template:TabButton | ||
Template:BlueButton | ||
Template:WhiteButton | ||
Template:VeButton | ||
Sandbox | ||
Template:User sandbox+ | base template that detects space (i.e. main / user / user sub-sandbox), edit mode or not, and page creation origin space, and adapts functionality
| |
Template:User sandbox+/doc | template documentation | |
Template:User sandbox+/preload | default page content for creation of user's main sandbox | |
Template:User sandbox+/create page | Template:Create sandbox subpage | handles new page creation centrally
|
Template:User sandbox+/create page/from library | Template:Create sandbox subpage item , Template:Custom page template (program) | page creation from library of article templates
|
Template:User sandbox+/create page/from user palette | Template:Custom page template (user) | page creation from user's palette of page templates
|
Template:User sandbox+/create page/new page instructions (useve) | Template:Create sandbox subpage item/New page instructions (useve) | instructions during page creation, for VE |
Template:User sandbox+/create page/new page instructions (usece) | Template:Create sandbox subpage item/New page instructions (usece) | instructions during page creation, for CE |
Template:User sandbox+/flush page | Template:Flush sub-sandbox | instructions to hide a sub-sandbox form central sandbox list
|
Template:User sandbox+/move page to article | Template:Move sandbox to article | foolproof move of a user sandbox to main (article) space
|
Article page templates | ||
Template:Article page templates/display/group | Template:Create sandbox subpage level | |
Template:Article page templates/user custom/host page matrix | Template:Custom page templates/User hostpage matrix | |
Template:Article page templates/user custom/display available | Template:Custom page templates/existing | |
Template:Article page templates/create/matrix | Template:Article page templates matrix | |
Template:Article page templates/create/talkpage matrix | Template:Article page templates talkpage matrix | |
Template:Article page templates/empty page | Template:Article page template/empty page | |
Template:Article page templates/generic article | Template:Article page template/generic article | |
Template:Article page templates/generic article (codeedit) | Template:Article page template/generic article (codeedit) | |
Template talk:Article page templates/empty page | Template talk:Article page template/empty page | |
Template talk:Article page templates/generic article | Template talk:Article page template/generic article | |
Template talk:Article page templates/generic article (codeedit) | Template talk:Article page template/generic article (codeedit) | |
Template:Article page templates/libraries/create/matrix | Template:Article page template class/preload | |
Template:Article page templates/libraries/Article template library | Template:Article page template class/Article template library | |
Group template editnotice | ||
Template:Editnotices/Group/Template:Article page templates | Template:Editnotices/Group/Template:Article page template | |
Template:Article page templates | Template:Article page template |
How about this structure? Is plural more accurate? Files are the same (renamed) and two of them are merged into one. ManosHacker talk 17:40, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I was in a hurry this morning and I missed point 2.
Thanks once again Pppery. ManosHacker talk 21:33, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
Posted new proposed table of names above. Still somewhat unsure about what the two templates I've marked with question marks should be. {{3x|p}}ery ( talk) 23:14, 8 March 2018 (UTC) I don't understand what {{ Custom page templates/User hostpage matrix}} does, but it seems like it should be part of the {{ User sandbox+}} family. {{3x|p}}ery ( talk) 03:25, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
Or this:
if nesting limit allows now, after the latest solutions, the merging of the three creation templates. ManosHacker talk 09:11, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
{{Article template/pages path/{{{1}}}
over {{#ifeq:{{{1}}}|user|Template:Article templates/pages/|User:{{ROOTPAGENAME}}/Custom page templates/}}
{{3x|p}}ery (
talk) 21:01, 9 March 2018 (UTC)I can start with this. I am not sure if user palette templates are to be below libraries or not. ManosHacker talk 09:18, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
#ifeq
statements and calls to template with dynamic names consume the same number of expansion depth slots. If you add more options, you could use a #switch
./path
templates, which I've thus
nominated for deletion.
Pppery you have been very helpful. I am about to move the rest, plus fix the code inside templates, as well as users who have non-working versions of custom palettes. If you please have a look here:
Template talk:Article page template to solve this as well. Thank you.
ManosHacker
talk 16:58, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
In regard with the nesting of parsing functions, the test showed that a total (default lib + custom lib + user palette) of about 120 Article page templates can be supported. ManosHacker talk 17:28, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
This
edit request to
Template:User sandbox+/hoverhighlight.js has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Please change content model of Template:User sandbox+/hoverhighlight.js to Javascript rather than Wikitext. {{3x|p}}ery ( talk) 23:24, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
Is there a way to have additional templates appear here by default or parts of templates? I am preparing an editathon and we will be working with new users on urban parks, so I wanted the Template:Infobox park and some general park parts to appear automatically, similar to how they do for some other natural areas. --- FULBERT ( talk) 18:17, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Here you are, dear FULBERT: Template:Article templates/Park. It now resides inside general library (places section). You can edit the template page directly (use wiki code editor to avoid mistakes) to adapt it for your editathon. Use the help code below for your trainees, if you like, I am now preparing also the videos for preparing editathons.
Article Nursery Garden
|
---|
Install |
Seed article in user space |
Locate seeded article |
Edit article |
Move completed article to main space
Extras Add hover highlighting |
ManosHacker talk 18:35, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
One follow-up ManosHacker; do you suggest I manually add the {{user sandbox+}} directly to the new user sandbox pages myself before the actual session, if possible, to make it easier for them to start? --- FULBERT ( talk) 20:36, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
{{
User sandbox+}}
and {{
preloaddraft}}
@
ManosHacker: I only just came across this template set. Great work! If you've not seen it yet {{
preloaddraft}}
comes at the same problem from a slightly different angle (redlink lists, see origins in
this signpost article). It looks as though the
Category:Preloaddraft templates and
Template:Article templates should be combined, and possible the general workings and syntax of both systems so that they're as intuitive as possible for users. What do you think?
T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)
talk 05:59, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
{{
infobox person/wikidata}}
.
T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)
talk 23:25, 17 September 2019 (UTC)