I'm glad that this template has been created, but I think that we may need to have a discussion about exactly who warrants inclusion under "people". Right now, Solon Earl Low is included, but any number of other members of Category:Alberta Social Credit MLAs aren't. Obviously we can't include all of those (especially since there are dozens of not-yet-existant articles that will belong in that category); is there something special about Low? Besides that, I'm not sure Wiebo Ludwig belongs there, as I don't think he has any particular connection to social credit theory or practice; in fact, despite following Alberta politics very closely (and having once met Mr. Ludwig), I did not until today know about his abortive run for the Social Credit leadership, which I infer was just about him choosing whatever vehicle happened to be available to espouse his views. Finally, while James Keegstra undeniably has a connection to social credit, it isn't really his claim to fame, and I'm concerned that by putting him on this template we're tarring social credit rather unfairly. It's one thing to include anti-semites like C. H. Douglas, whose reason for notability is directly related to social credit, but including Keegstra, who's notable primarily for his anti-semitic activities, seems a little unfair (and I say this as somebody with no particular regard for social credit). Thoughts? Steve Smith ( talk) 19:44, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
(undent)I suggest we drop the "People" section. Any list of people is problematic, as it's a way smearing people by a dubious association. For instance, we're linking a premier of a province, with a fringe neo-Nazi. There's no need for a separate "History" group, since almost everything about this topic is historical. Then, we should drop the subgroups with separate show/hide close buttons. So, we should be left with a simple template, with "Canada", "Oceania", "United Kingdom", and "Global" sections. -- Rob ( talk) 10:04, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm glad that this template has been created, but I think that we may need to have a discussion about exactly who warrants inclusion under "people". Right now, Solon Earl Low is included, but any number of other members of Category:Alberta Social Credit MLAs aren't. Obviously we can't include all of those (especially since there are dozens of not-yet-existant articles that will belong in that category); is there something special about Low? Besides that, I'm not sure Wiebo Ludwig belongs there, as I don't think he has any particular connection to social credit theory or practice; in fact, despite following Alberta politics very closely (and having once met Mr. Ludwig), I did not until today know about his abortive run for the Social Credit leadership, which I infer was just about him choosing whatever vehicle happened to be available to espouse his views. Finally, while James Keegstra undeniably has a connection to social credit, it isn't really his claim to fame, and I'm concerned that by putting him on this template we're tarring social credit rather unfairly. It's one thing to include anti-semites like C. H. Douglas, whose reason for notability is directly related to social credit, but including Keegstra, who's notable primarily for his anti-semitic activities, seems a little unfair (and I say this as somebody with no particular regard for social credit). Thoughts? Steve Smith ( talk) 19:44, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
(undent)I suggest we drop the "People" section. Any list of people is problematic, as it's a way smearing people by a dubious association. For instance, we're linking a premier of a province, with a fringe neo-Nazi. There's no need for a separate "History" group, since almost everything about this topic is historical. Then, we should drop the subgroups with separate show/hide close buttons. So, we should be left with a simple template, with "Canada", "Oceania", "United Kingdom", and "Global" sections. -- Rob ( talk) 10:04, 10 January 2010 (UTC)