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I suggest this template be merged with Template:Quantum mechanics —Preceding unsigned comment added by Caco de vidro ( talk • contribs) 22:21, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your contributions Truthnlove, for consistency I'll change the spelling of the Topics&Items to first capitalize letter and also remove the forenames of the scientists.
This is the problem with discussion a subject this big and this alive. This was the focus of physics for 80 years. Even if only the really radically new contributions are mentioned, the number of contributers over the decades is enormous. The question is, which period does this box cover? I tried to find some representatives from all eras, excluding rigorous stuff, excluding SUSY, and excluding conformal field theory, maybe that is satisfactory. But the number of even the most obvious contributors is very very large. I don't know how to restrict things in this case. Likebox ( talk) 07:36, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
The condensed matter people probably need their own thing--- how about "Statistical field theory"? This can include Parisi/Zinn-Justin/Kadanoff people who were interested in classical statistics more than quantum fluctuations. Likebox ( talk) 18:24, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
There was a link to the Rock and Roll drummer Stephen Adler, which isn't the right Adler. There is a physicist with the same name (I think its stephen) who did pioneering work on the anomaly and also the Adler-Weissberger sum rule which is important in deriving physical consequences of current algebra. Likebox ( talk) 19:15, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
The people listed here are those that have had a big hand in the formulation of quantum field theory, but there are of course hundreds of people who applied the theory to describe the world, and discover the standard model. Sudarshan is one of them, as are Pati, Salam and Georgi. Salam, however, also was the first to give a complete proof that QED was renormalizable, and gave infinite component field theories and superpropagators, and other foundational innovations. But why play "my contribution is more fundamental than yours"? I think there should be different boxes for different things, like the weak interactions, the strong interactions, QED, statistical fields etc. Likebox ( talk) 19:34, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
I removed the following people: Michael Werner ( I think he contributed recently to algebraic quantum field theory--- but this is too recent), Pati (whose seminal contributions were to make models of the world, not to the formal development of quantum field theory proper), Sudarshan (ditto--- great scientist--- just doesn't fit here in my opinion), Bose (this was the hardest).
What's the issue with Bose, esp. that Fermi is here? Bose developed the Boson statistics, and his contribution is comparable to that of Candlin, who developed Fermi path integration. Perhaps Bose and Candlin should be included both, but their contribution to the development of the field is in a single paper, and they did not devote an entire career to the subject. Fermi's four-point contact interaction was the first of its kind, and raised issues of unitarity and renormalizability already in the thirties. This is what I thought his contribution to the development of QFT proper was. Same with Bethe--- the Bethe Ansatz showed that S-matrix factorizes in 2D so 2D is magical. But this whole game is a ridiculous exercise and I feel ashamed to cast aspersions on the careers of scientists so great. But there is limited space, and this box needs focus. Likebox ( talk) 23:52, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
A lot of people, including Nicola Cabibbo (and Kobayashi and Maskawa) contributed in very fundamental ways to the standard model. But this box is about the development of the general formalism and physical principles of quantum field theory, not about applications. I am not sure that the same people made as central a contribution to Quantum field theory proper. It is probably good to make a standard model box to acknowledge their contributions. Likebox ( talk) 02:01, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Some of the scientists included in the list of scientist in this template are note notable enough. I invite other editors to state their opinions here and I will edit the template accordingly within a few days. Dauto ( talk) 18:50, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
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I suggest this template be merged with Template:Quantum mechanics —Preceding unsigned comment added by Caco de vidro ( talk • contribs) 22:21, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your contributions Truthnlove, for consistency I'll change the spelling of the Topics&Items to first capitalize letter and also remove the forenames of the scientists.
This is the problem with discussion a subject this big and this alive. This was the focus of physics for 80 years. Even if only the really radically new contributions are mentioned, the number of contributers over the decades is enormous. The question is, which period does this box cover? I tried to find some representatives from all eras, excluding rigorous stuff, excluding SUSY, and excluding conformal field theory, maybe that is satisfactory. But the number of even the most obvious contributors is very very large. I don't know how to restrict things in this case. Likebox ( talk) 07:36, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
The condensed matter people probably need their own thing--- how about "Statistical field theory"? This can include Parisi/Zinn-Justin/Kadanoff people who were interested in classical statistics more than quantum fluctuations. Likebox ( talk) 18:24, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
There was a link to the Rock and Roll drummer Stephen Adler, which isn't the right Adler. There is a physicist with the same name (I think its stephen) who did pioneering work on the anomaly and also the Adler-Weissberger sum rule which is important in deriving physical consequences of current algebra. Likebox ( talk) 19:15, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
The people listed here are those that have had a big hand in the formulation of quantum field theory, but there are of course hundreds of people who applied the theory to describe the world, and discover the standard model. Sudarshan is one of them, as are Pati, Salam and Georgi. Salam, however, also was the first to give a complete proof that QED was renormalizable, and gave infinite component field theories and superpropagators, and other foundational innovations. But why play "my contribution is more fundamental than yours"? I think there should be different boxes for different things, like the weak interactions, the strong interactions, QED, statistical fields etc. Likebox ( talk) 19:34, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
I removed the following people: Michael Werner ( I think he contributed recently to algebraic quantum field theory--- but this is too recent), Pati (whose seminal contributions were to make models of the world, not to the formal development of quantum field theory proper), Sudarshan (ditto--- great scientist--- just doesn't fit here in my opinion), Bose (this was the hardest).
What's the issue with Bose, esp. that Fermi is here? Bose developed the Boson statistics, and his contribution is comparable to that of Candlin, who developed Fermi path integration. Perhaps Bose and Candlin should be included both, but their contribution to the development of the field is in a single paper, and they did not devote an entire career to the subject. Fermi's four-point contact interaction was the first of its kind, and raised issues of unitarity and renormalizability already in the thirties. This is what I thought his contribution to the development of QFT proper was. Same with Bethe--- the Bethe Ansatz showed that S-matrix factorizes in 2D so 2D is magical. But this whole game is a ridiculous exercise and I feel ashamed to cast aspersions on the careers of scientists so great. But there is limited space, and this box needs focus. Likebox ( talk) 23:52, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
A lot of people, including Nicola Cabibbo (and Kobayashi and Maskawa) contributed in very fundamental ways to the standard model. But this box is about the development of the general formalism and physical principles of quantum field theory, not about applications. I am not sure that the same people made as central a contribution to Quantum field theory proper. It is probably good to make a standard model box to acknowledge their contributions. Likebox ( talk) 02:01, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Some of the scientists included in the list of scientist in this template are note notable enough. I invite other editors to state their opinions here and I will edit the template accordingly within a few days. Dauto ( talk) 18:50, 24 October 2011 (UTC)