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I felt it would be easier to follow with the names spelled out. This involved some re-arrangement for visual aesthetics. Brooklyn Nellie 06:30, Feb 26, 2004 (UTC)
I have removed the flags because I seriously believe they make the template way too big. Not only is it the only footer template with them (Consistency anyone?), but it is also unnecessarily bigger than similar templates that manage to have much more links like {{ africa}}, {{ algeria}} and becomes as big as {{ United States}}, which is a bit ridiculous. Circeus 14:53, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
Please cite the references in Wikipedia guidelines that "entitle" you to do whatever you want. There are several editors who have stated their cases for removing the flags -- oversizing of the template, redunancy with informatin on the linked pages, consistency with other templates, clutter, why flags over other symbols. You are the only editor so far in favour of keeping them, and you have provided little in the way of explanation, other than that you like them. you are behaving arbitrarily and aggressively. Please wait until this is resolved on this talk page before you revert again. Ground Zero 19:24, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
When you added them in April, you made the template completely unreadable until another user fixed it by lining everything up. -- Stormscape 08:18, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Without responding to any of the concerns that I, Stormscape or Circeus have raised, Astrotrain has imposed the flags again. Her/His behaviour suggests that s/he is determined to have his/her way without regard to what other editors think. Pity. This sort of behaviour brings Wikipedia down. Ground Zero 02:10, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
At Wikipedia:WikiProject Countries/Templates/Navboxes, ther
I believe it's pretty clear that there is a consensus for text-only links for this template (as opposed to the flags version.
DoubleBlue ( Talk) 22:34, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
So what do we do about Astrotrain, who incomprehensibly insists on violating the consensus decision? Is there an administrative solution? - Joshuapaquin 17:10, July 31, 2005 (UTC)
STOP REVERTING YOU STUPID TARDARSE -- Stormscape
These are not good enough reasons for being against flags. Astrotrain 19:19, August 2, 2005 (UTC)
My vote is for no flags. I reiterate my comments of July 19: "I believe the inclusion of flags of any size is unnecessary and overall detrimental to this template. The flags visually complicate an otherwise simple, effective footer. The intent of footers is to facilitate speedy navigation between related articles, and the flags break up the wikilinks too much. Ground Zero's comment that "At Wikipedia:WikiProject Countries/Templates/Navboxes, there are 100 (± 2 or 3) geographical and country subdivision templates. Of these, 99 do not have flags of the listed places on them." is also extremely important as visual consistency is one of the prime strengths of readability Wikipedia has." Kurieeto 20:09, August 2, 2005 (UTC)
I reverted the template because an image of a penis being masturbated was inserted. Also, the Canadian flag was vandalized with an image of a penis covered in defication. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 04:22, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
Based on the discussion above, the vote on putting flags in the template is:
In favour:
Opposed:
So why would User:Astrotrain put the flags back in? Ground Zero 21:06, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
As I already stated, there is no standard for footers- they can be made however people like. In this case compromise was reached and then breached by you- so don't lecture others on how to behave. Astrotrain 21:27, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
After looking at the 4 versions of the template I'll have to express my appreciation for the no picture template. I think that the navigational toolbar that this template is supposed to be is better served without the flag images. The flags belong in the articles proper not a template to be put at the bottom of many pages. I've read the entire talk page and Astrotrain has not tried to compremise until he lost. Flehmen 18:16, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
I am currently in the beginings of expanding the defunct District of Keewatin territory page. I was going to add the defunct territory under the territories section of the template, after seeing the contentious debate here, I thought I better ask and see if anyone thinks this is a good idea. -- Cloveious 22:21, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
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I felt it would be easier to follow with the names spelled out. This involved some re-arrangement for visual aesthetics. Brooklyn Nellie 06:30, Feb 26, 2004 (UTC)
I have removed the flags because I seriously believe they make the template way too big. Not only is it the only footer template with them (Consistency anyone?), but it is also unnecessarily bigger than similar templates that manage to have much more links like {{ africa}}, {{ algeria}} and becomes as big as {{ United States}}, which is a bit ridiculous. Circeus 14:53, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
Please cite the references in Wikipedia guidelines that "entitle" you to do whatever you want. There are several editors who have stated their cases for removing the flags -- oversizing of the template, redunancy with informatin on the linked pages, consistency with other templates, clutter, why flags over other symbols. You are the only editor so far in favour of keeping them, and you have provided little in the way of explanation, other than that you like them. you are behaving arbitrarily and aggressively. Please wait until this is resolved on this talk page before you revert again. Ground Zero 19:24, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
When you added them in April, you made the template completely unreadable until another user fixed it by lining everything up. -- Stormscape 08:18, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Without responding to any of the concerns that I, Stormscape or Circeus have raised, Astrotrain has imposed the flags again. Her/His behaviour suggests that s/he is determined to have his/her way without regard to what other editors think. Pity. This sort of behaviour brings Wikipedia down. Ground Zero 02:10, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
At Wikipedia:WikiProject Countries/Templates/Navboxes, ther
I believe it's pretty clear that there is a consensus for text-only links for this template (as opposed to the flags version.
DoubleBlue ( Talk) 22:34, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
So what do we do about Astrotrain, who incomprehensibly insists on violating the consensus decision? Is there an administrative solution? - Joshuapaquin 17:10, July 31, 2005 (UTC)
STOP REVERTING YOU STUPID TARDARSE -- Stormscape
These are not good enough reasons for being against flags. Astrotrain 19:19, August 2, 2005 (UTC)
My vote is for no flags. I reiterate my comments of July 19: "I believe the inclusion of flags of any size is unnecessary and overall detrimental to this template. The flags visually complicate an otherwise simple, effective footer. The intent of footers is to facilitate speedy navigation between related articles, and the flags break up the wikilinks too much. Ground Zero's comment that "At Wikipedia:WikiProject Countries/Templates/Navboxes, there are 100 (± 2 or 3) geographical and country subdivision templates. Of these, 99 do not have flags of the listed places on them." is also extremely important as visual consistency is one of the prime strengths of readability Wikipedia has." Kurieeto 20:09, August 2, 2005 (UTC)
I reverted the template because an image of a penis being masturbated was inserted. Also, the Canadian flag was vandalized with an image of a penis covered in defication. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 04:22, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
Based on the discussion above, the vote on putting flags in the template is:
In favour:
Opposed:
So why would User:Astrotrain put the flags back in? Ground Zero 21:06, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
As I already stated, there is no standard for footers- they can be made however people like. In this case compromise was reached and then breached by you- so don't lecture others on how to behave. Astrotrain 21:27, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
After looking at the 4 versions of the template I'll have to express my appreciation for the no picture template. I think that the navigational toolbar that this template is supposed to be is better served without the flag images. The flags belong in the articles proper not a template to be put at the bottom of many pages. I've read the entire talk page and Astrotrain has not tried to compremise until he lost. Flehmen 18:16, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
I am currently in the beginings of expanding the defunct District of Keewatin territory page. I was going to add the defunct territory under the territories section of the template, after seeing the contentious debate here, I thought I better ask and see if anyone thinks this is a good idea. -- Cloveious 22:21, 22 October 2005 (UTC)