Can someone provide a reference for the Portuguese, Bulgarian and Belgian (post WW1) princes being Princes of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. -
dwc lr (
talk) 16:34, 11 April 2009 (UTC)reply
I am not sure if belgian princes keep the style of Princes of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. During the reign in Portugal of the House of Braganza-Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, the infantes also held the style of princes of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha and dukes of Saxony (as you can see in
its article). Whe
Simeon II of Bulgaria became prime minister, he used the name Simeon of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, which proves that bulgarian princes kept this style. --
Paliano (
talk) 19:09, 16 April 2009 (UTC)reply
The
Almanach de Gotha, 1910 for instance,
[1], give the Bulgarians the titles, "Prince of Bulgaria, Duke of Saxony", the Portuguese "Infante of Portugal, Duke of Saxony", the Belgians "Prince of Belgium, Prince of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, Duke of Saxony" (though not after WWI) and the UK "Prince of the GB & I, Prince of S-C & G, Duke of Saxony" though again not after WWI. Unless sources can be founded attributing the title P of S-C & G they should be removed from the template and also
Template:Princesses of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha and
Template:Princesses of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha by marriage need to be looked at. -
dwc lr (
talk) 19:27, 16 April 2009 (UTC)reply
All right, I'll remove the Bulgarian princes and the Portuguese infantes, as well as the belgians after WW1 --
Paliano (
talk) 19:36, 16 April 2009 (UTC
Are you guys sure any of the Belgians princes or the UK princes, beside those whose father were reigning Dukes of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, can be considered Princes of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. The first version I made included only the male-line descendants of
Francis, Duke of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld that didn't start their own country. Because none of the sons of
Prince Albert had any title beside their British ones with the execption of Alfred who was Duke.--
Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy (
talk) 00:44, 17 April 2009 (UTC)reply
Yes I think its ok to list them as we can verify that they held the title per published sources such as the Almanach de Gotha or even Belgian Royal Families website
[2]. -
dwc lr (
talk) 01:00, 17 April 2009 (UTC)reply
5th generation: United Kingdom: "Prince" Alastair
According to the National Archives, "Prince" Alastair was never actually created as a prince.[1] I have edited "Prince" Alastair's article itself
Alastair, 2nd Duke of Connaught and Strathearn but not quite sure if he should be moved down to Duke or... what? Happy for advice. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
78.149.69.143 (
talk) 19:56, 13 April 2022 (UTC)reply
That's UK. This is a German title.
DrKay (
talk) 20:41, 13 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Can someone provide a reference for the Portuguese, Bulgarian and Belgian (post WW1) princes being Princes of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. -
dwc lr (
talk) 16:34, 11 April 2009 (UTC)reply
I am not sure if belgian princes keep the style of Princes of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. During the reign in Portugal of the House of Braganza-Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, the infantes also held the style of princes of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha and dukes of Saxony (as you can see in
its article). Whe
Simeon II of Bulgaria became prime minister, he used the name Simeon of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, which proves that bulgarian princes kept this style. --
Paliano (
talk) 19:09, 16 April 2009 (UTC)reply
The
Almanach de Gotha, 1910 for instance,
[1], give the Bulgarians the titles, "Prince of Bulgaria, Duke of Saxony", the Portuguese "Infante of Portugal, Duke of Saxony", the Belgians "Prince of Belgium, Prince of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, Duke of Saxony" (though not after WWI) and the UK "Prince of the GB & I, Prince of S-C & G, Duke of Saxony" though again not after WWI. Unless sources can be founded attributing the title P of S-C & G they should be removed from the template and also
Template:Princesses of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha and
Template:Princesses of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha by marriage need to be looked at. -
dwc lr (
talk) 19:27, 16 April 2009 (UTC)reply
All right, I'll remove the Bulgarian princes and the Portuguese infantes, as well as the belgians after WW1 --
Paliano (
talk) 19:36, 16 April 2009 (UTC
Are you guys sure any of the Belgians princes or the UK princes, beside those whose father were reigning Dukes of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, can be considered Princes of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. The first version I made included only the male-line descendants of
Francis, Duke of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld that didn't start their own country. Because none of the sons of
Prince Albert had any title beside their British ones with the execption of Alfred who was Duke.--
Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy (
talk) 00:44, 17 April 2009 (UTC)reply
Yes I think its ok to list them as we can verify that they held the title per published sources such as the Almanach de Gotha or even Belgian Royal Families website
[2]. -
dwc lr (
talk) 01:00, 17 April 2009 (UTC)reply
5th generation: United Kingdom: "Prince" Alastair
According to the National Archives, "Prince" Alastair was never actually created as a prince.[1] I have edited "Prince" Alastair's article itself
Alastair, 2nd Duke of Connaught and Strathearn but not quite sure if he should be moved down to Duke or... what? Happy for advice. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
78.149.69.143 (
talk) 19:56, 13 April 2022 (UTC)reply
That's UK. This is a German title.
DrKay (
talk) 20:41, 13 April 2022 (UTC)reply