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Some currency signs are defined as a regular (pre-existing) letter. For example, the Guatemalan quetzal is latin "Q", and is formally used by Banco de Guetemala.
But Eyesnore has removed this
I object to the removal, and to the logic behind it. Whether the sign is a regular letter or a special sign is not relevant for inclusion. The navbox aims to show all existing currency signs: these all belong here. Also, Unicode is not defining those, just representring those. Unicode is not the judge in here. The Reader must can use this navbox to find each and any currency sign. (Maybe the editor is confused witrh the wrong entrance: "List of all non-regular currency signs as defined by Unicode"? This list should be elsewhere, if at all.)
(BTW, another flaw in this disapproved logic is the exception for Latin letters, but not non-latin letters. Why would that be? And does this logic accept "Pts"? Anyway, this is all moot). - DePiep ( talk) 09:46, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
Just coming back to this, it remains important to distinguish between currency signs – symbols that are formally designated as such or are widely recognised as representing that currency – and commonly used abbreviations. For example, the Egyptian pound has no designated currency sign but the abbreviations LE, £E and ج.م are commonly used, sometimes concurrently. -- John Maynard Friedman ( talk) 11:42, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
Consider: we split the "current" list into two: Latin based and non-Latin based.
This would help the reader to recognise & find signs they look for. DePiep ( talk) 15:56, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
l20.-- John Maynard Friedman ( talk) 13:14, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
Cryptocurrencies are not currencies. Ponzi schemes maybe but not currencies. I propose that the be removed from the template. John Maynard Friedman ( talk) 20:26, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
I guess my proposal seems unlikely to gain consensus so I suggest we don't waste any more time on it.
So may I revise my proposal? How about limiting the CC line to only those CCs that have a dedicated Unicode code-point? (which is what we are doing with the real conventional currencies). --
John Maynard Friedman (
talk) 15:18, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
{{See Talk:Currency symbol § Infobox will get out of control unless it has a policy setting. - DePiep ( talk) 07:43, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
@ John Maynard Friedman: [1]: please refrain from wikilawyering or definitionlawyering for this navigation box. WP:LEASTSURPRISE also pertains to missing, but expected stuff. " / / " is a symbol that belongs in here, bluelinked. Now take the Reader Seat and edit from what you'd expect to find. DePiep ( talk) 07:07, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
£xx/yy/zz
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vigesimal separator or a
duodecimal separator, just as . (or , and ·) is a decimal separator. In East Africa, the slash is a decimal separator: for example, a price might be given as 2/50 (which means two shillings and 50 cents, with the local currency prefix understood), or even 250/= (which means two hundred and fifty shillings exactly). The slash is not a currency symbol, nor is the equal sign: both are merely the conventional notation. So short of adding a new line to the navbox for decimal separators, I can't see any home for it.Numismatics Template‑class | |||||||
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Some currency signs are defined as a regular (pre-existing) letter. For example, the Guatemalan quetzal is latin "Q", and is formally used by Banco de Guetemala.
But Eyesnore has removed this
I object to the removal, and to the logic behind it. Whether the sign is a regular letter or a special sign is not relevant for inclusion. The navbox aims to show all existing currency signs: these all belong here. Also, Unicode is not defining those, just representring those. Unicode is not the judge in here. The Reader must can use this navbox to find each and any currency sign. (Maybe the editor is confused witrh the wrong entrance: "List of all non-regular currency signs as defined by Unicode"? This list should be elsewhere, if at all.)
(BTW, another flaw in this disapproved logic is the exception for Latin letters, but not non-latin letters. Why would that be? And does this logic accept "Pts"? Anyway, this is all moot). - DePiep ( talk) 09:46, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
Just coming back to this, it remains important to distinguish between currency signs – symbols that are formally designated as such or are widely recognised as representing that currency – and commonly used abbreviations. For example, the Egyptian pound has no designated currency sign but the abbreviations LE, £E and ج.م are commonly used, sometimes concurrently. -- John Maynard Friedman ( talk) 11:42, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
Consider: we split the "current" list into two: Latin based and non-Latin based.
This would help the reader to recognise & find signs they look for. DePiep ( talk) 15:56, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
l20.-- John Maynard Friedman ( talk) 13:14, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
Cryptocurrencies are not currencies. Ponzi schemes maybe but not currencies. I propose that the be removed from the template. John Maynard Friedman ( talk) 20:26, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
I guess my proposal seems unlikely to gain consensus so I suggest we don't waste any more time on it.
So may I revise my proposal? How about limiting the CC line to only those CCs that have a dedicated Unicode code-point? (which is what we are doing with the real conventional currencies). --
John Maynard Friedman (
talk) 15:18, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
{{See Talk:Currency symbol § Infobox will get out of control unless it has a policy setting. - DePiep ( talk) 07:43, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
@ John Maynard Friedman: [1]: please refrain from wikilawyering or definitionlawyering for this navigation box. WP:LEASTSURPRISE also pertains to missing, but expected stuff. " / / " is a symbol that belongs in here, bluelinked. Now take the Reader Seat and edit from what you'd expect to find. DePiep ( talk) 07:07, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
£xx/yy/zz
, it is just a
vigesimal separator or a
duodecimal separator, just as . (or , and ·) is a decimal separator. In East Africa, the slash is a decimal separator: for example, a price might be given as 2/50 (which means two shillings and 50 cents, with the local currency prefix understood), or even 250/= (which means two hundred and fifty shillings exactly). The slash is not a currency symbol, nor is the equal sign: both are merely the conventional notation. So short of adding a new line to the navbox for decimal separators, I can't see any home for it.