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I think there's a bit of an inherent problem with this template, which is that navigational infoboxes should be for working through a clear series rather than just collecting together related articles (which could be done using a category instead). If you look at History of France or History of Britain, they are for navigating a fairly obvious chronology, geography or series of topics. We don't yet have anything so clear for London (although I definitely think that the History of London article should be split up into its own chronological sub-articles). I think it's a bit confusing to have an infobox linking to articles that just have something to do with London's history, rather than a chronological series of articles or a topical series (like History of London infrastructure, or History of London government).
I would suggest using this template once History of London has been "sub-articled" as appropriate, and having the chronological list like the two examples. -- Dave A 23:52, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I added this template to a couple of pages Battle of Cable Street, and Jack the Ripper; in the former it looks fine, but in the later, overwhelms an already lengthy article. I suggested that the 'Jack the Ripper' community may wish to remove my insert 'as corporate vandalism'!
My personal suggestion would be that a small box be created, with either the ability to expand it (show/hide), or links to a history of London page, that contains links to popular articles and a timeline based review of history - what about the short histories that accompany smaller geo locations? Kbthompson 11:29, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Bishonen | talk 03:03, 21 October 2006 (UTC). A solution that is practically perfect in everyway; a bottom of the page template would allow it to be 'overloaded' to anyone's heart's content. On another matter, I have been adding quite a lot of short local history articles to areas of Hackney. It would be nice to have a way to both standardise and link those together. (I don't think anyone reads this page, unless they've faced the problem of the template!) Kbthompson 09:51, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Meanwhile, I've dropped a note on the talkpage of Djr xi, who created the template, if I understand its History rightly, and asked him to chime in here and/or consider creating the kind of alternative that's been requested. It looks like he's pretty busy IRL, though. Bishonen | talk 10:38, 21 October 2006 (UTC). Yes, they have been overly inscrutable. Re-reading the original post, it looks, not like they want this template to represent a coherent series of history articles about London; but rather to guide the reader through a 'selected timeline' which changes things a little. I shall mull it over. I think, if someone takes the trouble to read something about London's history (in any sense), I'd want to provide them with some navigation to other history articles ... I would put your article up, without including the template ... and see where it goes from there. Kbthompson 16:50, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't this template have a link for London Underground?? -- Midx1004 10:55, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Why is this skyscraper present in a template for London History when it hasn't even been built yet?
EdJogg ( talk) 10:55, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Should the London Eye be added? Miyagawa (talk) 13:01, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
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I think there's a bit of an inherent problem with this template, which is that navigational infoboxes should be for working through a clear series rather than just collecting together related articles (which could be done using a category instead). If you look at History of France or History of Britain, they are for navigating a fairly obvious chronology, geography or series of topics. We don't yet have anything so clear for London (although I definitely think that the History of London article should be split up into its own chronological sub-articles). I think it's a bit confusing to have an infobox linking to articles that just have something to do with London's history, rather than a chronological series of articles or a topical series (like History of London infrastructure, or History of London government).
I would suggest using this template once History of London has been "sub-articled" as appropriate, and having the chronological list like the two examples. -- Dave A 23:52, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I added this template to a couple of pages Battle of Cable Street, and Jack the Ripper; in the former it looks fine, but in the later, overwhelms an already lengthy article. I suggested that the 'Jack the Ripper' community may wish to remove my insert 'as corporate vandalism'!
My personal suggestion would be that a small box be created, with either the ability to expand it (show/hide), or links to a history of London page, that contains links to popular articles and a timeline based review of history - what about the short histories that accompany smaller geo locations? Kbthompson 11:29, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Bishonen | talk 03:03, 21 October 2006 (UTC). A solution that is practically perfect in everyway; a bottom of the page template would allow it to be 'overloaded' to anyone's heart's content. On another matter, I have been adding quite a lot of short local history articles to areas of Hackney. It would be nice to have a way to both standardise and link those together. (I don't think anyone reads this page, unless they've faced the problem of the template!) Kbthompson 09:51, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Meanwhile, I've dropped a note on the talkpage of Djr xi, who created the template, if I understand its History rightly, and asked him to chime in here and/or consider creating the kind of alternative that's been requested. It looks like he's pretty busy IRL, though. Bishonen | talk 10:38, 21 October 2006 (UTC). Yes, they have been overly inscrutable. Re-reading the original post, it looks, not like they want this template to represent a coherent series of history articles about London; but rather to guide the reader through a 'selected timeline' which changes things a little. I shall mull it over. I think, if someone takes the trouble to read something about London's history (in any sense), I'd want to provide them with some navigation to other history articles ... I would put your article up, without including the template ... and see where it goes from there. Kbthompson 16:50, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't this template have a link for London Underground?? -- Midx1004 10:55, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Why is this skyscraper present in a template for London History when it hasn't even been built yet?
EdJogg ( talk) 10:55, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Should the London Eye be added? Miyagawa (talk) 13:01, 2 December 2009 (UTC)