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I see some issues of concern with this template. First of all, it lists a lot more than just "lexical categories"; it is listing every variety of each lexical category. In generative grammar (and most other theories I know of, although generative is the one that's most relevant to the idea of "lexical category anyway), only the things on the left-hand column (nouns, verbs, adjectives, etc.) are really "categories"; the others are just features of that category. For example, under the noun heading, "animacy" and "count/mass" and "common/proper" and "concreteness" and "agentivity" are no more separate categories than "transitivity" is for verbs. Plus, the many things listed under each row are not mutually exclusive; rather, they are just laundry lists of random features. For example, common and proper nouns can both be animate or inanimate, can both be mass or count, can both be concrete or abstract; no word is going to fit into just one link in this template.
Finally, the template is a bit anglo-centric. The rows it lists are pretty much the "typical" categories in an English school textbook. Other categories, such as classifiers (which are typologically pretty common), are relegated to an "other categories" row for no clear reason.
For these reasons, I don't think the template is really ready for inclusion yet, as it is not yet a useful or well-organized navigational aid. I have already removed it from Lexical category, and would like to remove it from the other pages in which it is transcluded as well. rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 01:17, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
I am thinking we should keep it as this version and make it have a expand section on pronoun and adverbs. Any ideas or thoughts on this? (Note that Template:pronouns already exist)
Further on syntax of the template I really oppose we keep the template as vertical, it is overstratifying things and making it harder to read and see faster connection. (70% of navboxes are written in horizontal, not in vertical, mainly because they aren't a listing of things such as system science president (people, objects...etc), but definitely not in content template. Even if you want to use the vertical method you should using {{nowrap|text}} parameter not just linebreaking them for no reason. -- 173.183.102.184 ( talk) 01:07, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
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This template needs attention from an expert in Linguistics. Please add a reason or a talk parameter to this template to explain the issue with the template.(January 2010) |
I see some issues of concern with this template. First of all, it lists a lot more than just "lexical categories"; it is listing every variety of each lexical category. In generative grammar (and most other theories I know of, although generative is the one that's most relevant to the idea of "lexical category anyway), only the things on the left-hand column (nouns, verbs, adjectives, etc.) are really "categories"; the others are just features of that category. For example, under the noun heading, "animacy" and "count/mass" and "common/proper" and "concreteness" and "agentivity" are no more separate categories than "transitivity" is for verbs. Plus, the many things listed under each row are not mutually exclusive; rather, they are just laundry lists of random features. For example, common and proper nouns can both be animate or inanimate, can both be mass or count, can both be concrete or abstract; no word is going to fit into just one link in this template.
Finally, the template is a bit anglo-centric. The rows it lists are pretty much the "typical" categories in an English school textbook. Other categories, such as classifiers (which are typologically pretty common), are relegated to an "other categories" row for no clear reason.
For these reasons, I don't think the template is really ready for inclusion yet, as it is not yet a useful or well-organized navigational aid. I have already removed it from Lexical category, and would like to remove it from the other pages in which it is transcluded as well. rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 01:17, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
I am thinking we should keep it as this version and make it have a expand section on pronoun and adverbs. Any ideas or thoughts on this? (Note that Template:pronouns already exist)
Further on syntax of the template I really oppose we keep the template as vertical, it is overstratifying things and making it harder to read and see faster connection. (70% of navboxes are written in horizontal, not in vertical, mainly because they aren't a listing of things such as system science president (people, objects...etc), but definitely not in content template. Even if you want to use the vertical method you should using {{nowrap|text}} parameter not just linebreaking them for no reason. -- 173.183.102.184 ( talk) 01:07, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
{{
Wikipedia template messages}}
and {{
World's most populous urban areas}}
.)
rʨanaɢ
talk/
contribs 06:26, 25 January 2010 (UTC)