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What you have created here is something less than useless. It's less than useless because it tries to put into a few boxes things which are very complex, and therefore gives a very false impression! I have already said something very similar.
I just found the Mona Lisa in a box that say "Leonardo and other artists. Whaaaat are you on about? Although it is probable that soemone cut it down, and over-cleaned it, there is no suggestion that he painted it with another artist.
If you look at my detailed list of explanationns on the Leonardo page, you'll see why you can't put everything in three boxes.
There is a vast difference between:
But you have lumped all these together as Leonardo and other hands. It includes eveything from perhaps a student addition, to one of Leonardo's most accomplished paintings the London "Virgin of the Rocks". And now you add the "Mona Lisa" to it!!?
Moreover, there is also a vast difference between an attribution that almost every art historian agrees with, and a claim made by one person. But you have lumped them altogether.
I groan at the fact that this has been tagged onto the Leonardo] article, which already contains the information in as accurate form as I can make it, with a good deal of research.
You claim Leonardo invented "The Robot"! What he built was an Automatum of a type that was not original. Impressive perhaps, but he didn't invent it. remove it from the list. I can't remember what the other thing is, but to say he invented the robot is far fetched, and inaccurate.
Please don't do this! It is misleading, to say the very least.
Amandajm (
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I just removed the "Medusa". No Medusa by Leonardo still exists. I removed "Leda and the Swan". Everyone knows that they are all student copies. I removed "Tobias". One art historian suggests Leonardo might have painted the fish (and the dog). There is no concensus of opinion about this. I removed "Robot". He didn't invent the robot.
Amandajm ( talk) 06:55, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Amandajm ( talk) 02:55, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
List the "Dreyfus Madonna", even though it's a red link. I'll write a little monograph on it. Amandajm ( talk) 03:33, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Just a few notes to explain my recent edit, which mostly follows Amandajm's suggestions above:
Ham 16:13, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
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What you have created here is something less than useless. It's less than useless because it tries to put into a few boxes things which are very complex, and therefore gives a very false impression! I have already said something very similar.
I just found the Mona Lisa in a box that say "Leonardo and other artists. Whaaaat are you on about? Although it is probable that soemone cut it down, and over-cleaned it, there is no suggestion that he painted it with another artist.
If you look at my detailed list of explanationns on the Leonardo page, you'll see why you can't put everything in three boxes.
There is a vast difference between:
But you have lumped all these together as Leonardo and other hands. It includes eveything from perhaps a student addition, to one of Leonardo's most accomplished paintings the London "Virgin of the Rocks". And now you add the "Mona Lisa" to it!!?
Moreover, there is also a vast difference between an attribution that almost every art historian agrees with, and a claim made by one person. But you have lumped them altogether.
I groan at the fact that this has been tagged onto the Leonardo] article, which already contains the information in as accurate form as I can make it, with a good deal of research.
You claim Leonardo invented "The Robot"! What he built was an Automatum of a type that was not original. Impressive perhaps, but he didn't invent it. remove it from the list. I can't remember what the other thing is, but to say he invented the robot is far fetched, and inaccurate.
Please don't do this! It is misleading, to say the very least.
Amandajm (
talk) 06:45, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
I just removed the "Medusa". No Medusa by Leonardo still exists. I removed "Leda and the Swan". Everyone knows that they are all student copies. I removed "Tobias". One art historian suggests Leonardo might have painted the fish (and the dog). There is no concensus of opinion about this. I removed "Robot". He didn't invent the robot.
Amandajm ( talk) 06:55, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Amandajm ( talk) 02:55, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
List the "Dreyfus Madonna", even though it's a red link. I'll write a little monograph on it. Amandajm ( talk) 03:33, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Just a few notes to explain my recent edit, which mostly follows Amandajm's suggestions above:
Ham 16:13, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
×≈dfdfdfd — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.54.64.35 ( talk) 15:45, 1 October 2013 (UTC)