Politics of the United Kingdom Template‑class | |||||||
|
{{
editsemiprotected}}
Could someone please update info for Caroline Lucas MEP leader of the Green Party. Have updated on main list but have no access to change this one? Cheers, bisto.—Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Bisto143 (
talk •
contribs) 15:30, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
I have removed Nigel Farage from the list. According to the page on Bob Spink, Spink is an Independent, not UKIP, MP and so UKIP has no Westminster representation.
Perhaps it might be in order to have an extra section in this template indicating parties with MEPs? Uncantabrigian ( talk) 19:43, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
This
edit request to
Template:Leaders of British political parties has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Add " Tim Farron" to Liberal Democrats. He was elected on 16 July 2015. 213.107.135.224 ( talk) 11:20, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Done Thanks for pointing that out. - Arjayay ( talk) 11:32, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Is this really a list of Leaders of British political parties? Or is it a list of group leaders within the various legislatures in the UK?
82.18.177.13 ( talk) 18:37, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
Why is the house of Lords excluded from this? 82.18.177.13 ( talk) 19:56, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
Main parties in Westminster, Europe or devolved legislature, No changes to minor— Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.18.177.13 ( talk) 19:29, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
This
edit request to
Template:Leaders of British political parties has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Change the incorrect claim that Caroline Lucas is leader of the Green Party so that it makes clear Natalie Bennett is the current leader. 2A02:C7D:411F:EC00:95EB:54AA:7BF:C8AC ( talk) 23:34, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
This
edit request to
Template:Leaders of British political parties has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Change Leader of the Welsh Liberal Democrats from Kirsty Williams to Mark Williams (politician)MP who was elected as leader of the Welsh Lib Dems in 2016. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2016-wales-36237951
90.255.52.239 ( talk) 22:21, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
There is a slight anomaly here as the Welsh section is listed as National Assembly for Wales, but Jane Dodds, the leader of the Welsh Liberal Democrats, is not a member of the Assembly. Dunarc ( talk) 22:48, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
This needs updating.-- 185.125.226.2 ( talk) 18:30, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
From my understanding, Caroline Lucas might be the Green's only MP, but the party leaders are Jonathan Bartley and Siân Berry - this should be corrected.
This template has severe problems that have been noted multiple times, but its never had a specific holistic discussion.
The problems that I see in this article are:
The article is supposed to be "Leaders of political parties in the United Kingdom", not "Leaders of political groups in the United Kingdom"
Many of the people listed are not the leaders of their party, for example: The leader of the SNP is Nicola Sturgeon, the leader of SNP Parliamentary group is Ian Blackford. Ian is listed under Commons, Nicola under Scottish Parliament. There is only one leader of the SNP and it is Nicola Sturgeon, her seat being in the Scottish Parliament does not change that. But let's say we overlook this, and we set the precedent that people are listed under where their seat is. The leader of the Welsh Lib Dems is Jane Dodds, she does not sit in the National Assembly for Wales. She sits as a Welsh MP in Commonsbut is listed under National Assembly. Noone is listed as the leader of the Welsh Lib Dems in commons. (as an aside, in the National Assembly, you need at least 3 members to form a political group)
Representatives in the House of Lords and European Parliament are not included
This is particularly significant as the Brexit Party has 29 MEPs (~40% of the UK MEPs), UKIP has 1 seat in Lords. Currently they are both relegated to the category of "Minor Parties" which includes the Monster Raving Looney Party who currently hold no elected office and the National Health Action Party who have never held any elected office.
Minor parties have no inclusion/exclusion criteria
There are parties who have elected councillors ( People Against Bureaucracy and others) that are not listed as minor parties while the MRLP and NHAP are.
Conclusion
So my questions are:
Lalichii 11:05, 4 September 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lalichii ( talk • contribs)
Dunarc ( talk) 22:37, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
Lalichii ( talk) 11:05, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Richard Braine stepped down as UKIP leader and Jo Swinson as Lib Dem leader and though interim appointments have been announced permanent replacements have yet to be elected. Shouldn't vacancies be noted?-- 12.144.5.2 ( talk) 20:37, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
Politics of the United Kingdom Template‑class | |||||||
|
{{
editsemiprotected}}
Could someone please update info for Caroline Lucas MEP leader of the Green Party. Have updated on main list but have no access to change this one? Cheers, bisto.—Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Bisto143 (
talk •
contribs) 15:30, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
I have removed Nigel Farage from the list. According to the page on Bob Spink, Spink is an Independent, not UKIP, MP and so UKIP has no Westminster representation.
Perhaps it might be in order to have an extra section in this template indicating parties with MEPs? Uncantabrigian ( talk) 19:43, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
This
edit request to
Template:Leaders of British political parties has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Add " Tim Farron" to Liberal Democrats. He was elected on 16 July 2015. 213.107.135.224 ( talk) 11:20, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Done Thanks for pointing that out. - Arjayay ( talk) 11:32, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Is this really a list of Leaders of British political parties? Or is it a list of group leaders within the various legislatures in the UK?
82.18.177.13 ( talk) 18:37, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
Why is the house of Lords excluded from this? 82.18.177.13 ( talk) 19:56, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
Main parties in Westminster, Europe or devolved legislature, No changes to minor— Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.18.177.13 ( talk) 19:29, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
This
edit request to
Template:Leaders of British political parties has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Change the incorrect claim that Caroline Lucas is leader of the Green Party so that it makes clear Natalie Bennett is the current leader. 2A02:C7D:411F:EC00:95EB:54AA:7BF:C8AC ( talk) 23:34, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
This
edit request to
Template:Leaders of British political parties has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Change Leader of the Welsh Liberal Democrats from Kirsty Williams to Mark Williams (politician)MP who was elected as leader of the Welsh Lib Dems in 2016. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2016-wales-36237951
90.255.52.239 ( talk) 22:21, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
There is a slight anomaly here as the Welsh section is listed as National Assembly for Wales, but Jane Dodds, the leader of the Welsh Liberal Democrats, is not a member of the Assembly. Dunarc ( talk) 22:48, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
This needs updating.-- 185.125.226.2 ( talk) 18:30, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
From my understanding, Caroline Lucas might be the Green's only MP, but the party leaders are Jonathan Bartley and Siân Berry - this should be corrected.
This template has severe problems that have been noted multiple times, but its never had a specific holistic discussion.
The problems that I see in this article are:
The article is supposed to be "Leaders of political parties in the United Kingdom", not "Leaders of political groups in the United Kingdom"
Many of the people listed are not the leaders of their party, for example: The leader of the SNP is Nicola Sturgeon, the leader of SNP Parliamentary group is Ian Blackford. Ian is listed under Commons, Nicola under Scottish Parliament. There is only one leader of the SNP and it is Nicola Sturgeon, her seat being in the Scottish Parliament does not change that. But let's say we overlook this, and we set the precedent that people are listed under where their seat is. The leader of the Welsh Lib Dems is Jane Dodds, she does not sit in the National Assembly for Wales. She sits as a Welsh MP in Commonsbut is listed under National Assembly. Noone is listed as the leader of the Welsh Lib Dems in commons. (as an aside, in the National Assembly, you need at least 3 members to form a political group)
Representatives in the House of Lords and European Parliament are not included
This is particularly significant as the Brexit Party has 29 MEPs (~40% of the UK MEPs), UKIP has 1 seat in Lords. Currently they are both relegated to the category of "Minor Parties" which includes the Monster Raving Looney Party who currently hold no elected office and the National Health Action Party who have never held any elected office.
Minor parties have no inclusion/exclusion criteria
There are parties who have elected councillors ( People Against Bureaucracy and others) that are not listed as minor parties while the MRLP and NHAP are.
Conclusion
So my questions are:
Lalichii 11:05, 4 September 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lalichii ( talk • contribs)
Dunarc ( talk) 22:37, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
Lalichii ( talk) 11:05, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Richard Braine stepped down as UKIP leader and Jo Swinson as Lib Dem leader and though interim appointments have been announced permanent replacements have yet to be elected. Shouldn't vacancies be noted?-- 12.144.5.2 ( talk) 20:37, 13 December 2019 (UTC)