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There are several authors among "Other authors" who could be moved to "Famous writers", eg. István Fekete, Ferenc Móra, Ferenc Molnár; while Miklós Zrínyi and Sándor Weöres could be certainly moved to "Famous poets". On the other hand, József Petelei, currently among "Famous writers", is hardly known in Hungary.
However, this categorization seems to be rather subjective to me. A better solution should be applied, please. Adam78 17:28, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't at least the names be in an alphabetical order? Anyway, this list is indeed subjective (e. g. where is Babits or Karinthy or Esterházy or Illyés? And if they are not there, what are Fenyő Miksa, Tóth Árpád and Fekete István doing there? Why isn't Nemere István and Földi Pál mentioned then? The other great problem is that why would Móricz, Gárdonyi, Jókai, Mikszáth be writers of the 19th century, if they lived and wrote in the 20th too? And the creator should take a look at the article regarding Kármán József, the so called "10-16th century" writer...
Anyway, this Template is and always will be useless, because of its subjectivity. I think it should be deleted.-- Mathae 20:53, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I understand what you say, though I don't agree on every point. You also missed my point: such a template should represent the tradition, the list of poets and writers who are considered the most important literary people in Hungary and in the world. (I admit I confused you: I wrote everybody should complete the list with favourites. You are right, this is not a good idea, and I also contradicted myself, sorry.) But I maintanin that though such template is subjective, it can be useful. I only wanted to save the template. Those articles are very important in themselves: I agree, we should start writing them. But this does not mean that we should delete something which can easily show eg. the contemporaries of an author at the end of the article. I think it's important. I wonder what do others think. Pumukli 11:26, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
Is there any reason why the pictures keep changing? I can picture that it was considered a good idea to represent all major writers at some point, but the result is nothing short of weird. What I would suggest instead is to find some emblematic figure, some allegory of some sort, an iconic book illustration (as seen on the project template just above, but you could get even more creative and resourceful than that), a neutral but relevant symbol, or at least a collective portrait. You could perhaps even create a small collage of PD images, as seen on Hungarian people. Or even nothing at all, if you cannot decide. Dahn 23:37, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Hungarian culture ( defunct) | ||||
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Hungary NA‑class | |||||||
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Literature Template‑class | |||||||
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There are several authors among "Other authors" who could be moved to "Famous writers", eg. István Fekete, Ferenc Móra, Ferenc Molnár; while Miklós Zrínyi and Sándor Weöres could be certainly moved to "Famous poets". On the other hand, József Petelei, currently among "Famous writers", is hardly known in Hungary.
However, this categorization seems to be rather subjective to me. A better solution should be applied, please. Adam78 17:28, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't at least the names be in an alphabetical order? Anyway, this list is indeed subjective (e. g. where is Babits or Karinthy or Esterházy or Illyés? And if they are not there, what are Fenyő Miksa, Tóth Árpád and Fekete István doing there? Why isn't Nemere István and Földi Pál mentioned then? The other great problem is that why would Móricz, Gárdonyi, Jókai, Mikszáth be writers of the 19th century, if they lived and wrote in the 20th too? And the creator should take a look at the article regarding Kármán József, the so called "10-16th century" writer...
Anyway, this Template is and always will be useless, because of its subjectivity. I think it should be deleted.-- Mathae 20:53, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I understand what you say, though I don't agree on every point. You also missed my point: such a template should represent the tradition, the list of poets and writers who are considered the most important literary people in Hungary and in the world. (I admit I confused you: I wrote everybody should complete the list with favourites. You are right, this is not a good idea, and I also contradicted myself, sorry.) But I maintanin that though such template is subjective, it can be useful. I only wanted to save the template. Those articles are very important in themselves: I agree, we should start writing them. But this does not mean that we should delete something which can easily show eg. the contemporaries of an author at the end of the article. I think it's important. I wonder what do others think. Pumukli 11:26, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
Is there any reason why the pictures keep changing? I can picture that it was considered a good idea to represent all major writers at some point, but the result is nothing short of weird. What I would suggest instead is to find some emblematic figure, some allegory of some sort, an iconic book illustration (as seen on the project template just above, but you could get even more creative and resourceful than that), a neutral but relevant symbol, or at least a collective portrait. You could perhaps even create a small collage of PD images, as seen on Hungarian people. Or even nothing at all, if you cannot decide. Dahn 23:37, 3 August 2007 (UTC)