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Id like some ideas regarding the name and role of the template. My initial use of the template was to list defunct 19th century scottish senior clubs, but ive noticed it has evolved somewhat and ends up being used inconsistently on club pages (some clubs are still in existance as a junior club, or have reformed in another senior league). Personally id like to make the template comprehensive in listing senior clubs, but im not sure how to keep it relevant when used on club pages. Your thoughts? Macarism Talk 09:52, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
I think the criteria for inclusion is still unclear; the repeated use of the word "former", to me, suggests it would cover clubs that have dropped out of the leagues as well as those that have become defunct, for example as Template:Former Football League members does. This led to my recent addition of East Stirlingshire being reverted by User:Jmorrison230582, who obviously has a different interpretation, that of defunct clubs only.
(Of course, my interpretation relied on widening the definition of "former SFL members" to include the current SPFL, as technically all the current league clubs are ex-SFL...)
If people agree it should be for defunct clubs only, we need to make the title as displayed on the template clearer. Also, there are other former league clubs that continue to exist or have been reformed at lower levels (e.g. Clydebank, Peebles Rovers, Vale of Leven, Arthurlie etc.) whose inclusion here would come into question as to whether they are "defunct". In many of these cases, the claim that they are the same club is dubious, although we generally cover them in the same article at present. Perhaps we need to split more articles, along the lines of the recent Edinburgh City split? This is a bit of a minefield... Jellyman ( talk) 09:12, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
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Id like some ideas regarding the name and role of the template. My initial use of the template was to list defunct 19th century scottish senior clubs, but ive noticed it has evolved somewhat and ends up being used inconsistently on club pages (some clubs are still in existance as a junior club, or have reformed in another senior league). Personally id like to make the template comprehensive in listing senior clubs, but im not sure how to keep it relevant when used on club pages. Your thoughts? Macarism Talk 09:52, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
I think the criteria for inclusion is still unclear; the repeated use of the word "former", to me, suggests it would cover clubs that have dropped out of the leagues as well as those that have become defunct, for example as Template:Former Football League members does. This led to my recent addition of East Stirlingshire being reverted by User:Jmorrison230582, who obviously has a different interpretation, that of defunct clubs only.
(Of course, my interpretation relied on widening the definition of "former SFL members" to include the current SPFL, as technically all the current league clubs are ex-SFL...)
If people agree it should be for defunct clubs only, we need to make the title as displayed on the template clearer. Also, there are other former league clubs that continue to exist or have been reformed at lower levels (e.g. Clydebank, Peebles Rovers, Vale of Leven, Arthurlie etc.) whose inclusion here would come into question as to whether they are "defunct". In many of these cases, the claim that they are the same club is dubious, although we generally cover them in the same article at present. Perhaps we need to split more articles, along the lines of the recent Edinburgh City split? This is a bit of a minefield... Jellyman ( talk) 09:12, 30 May 2016 (UTC)