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Seems to’ve become quite the spokesperson for the position. Hyperbolick ( talk) 02:15, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
The inclusion of God and Man at Yale, A Choice Not an Echo, and The Closing of the American Mind I understand. These are extremely well-known, still in print, and referenced even today. Some of the others, though, left me scratching my head. Hillbilly Elegy? The Benedict Option? You might as well go back to including It Take a Family and other forgettable election-season memoirs and how-tos that get churned out, chewed up, and forgotten. I think if this template is going to have a list of works, they should be self-evidently recognizable as bastions of argument and philosophy—the kinds of books that leave everyone both speechless and scrambling for some way to react to it. It doesn't have to be universally acclaimed, but it shouldn't be something that you go "what was that book about, again?" five years after you read it. Honestly, I don't think any works within the last 25 years should be included unless they meet that criteria. -- Veggies ( talk) 23:29, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
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Add Rothbard to the Intellectuals list, OR replace Hoppe with Rothbard. Rothbard should be part of the "Intellectuals" list, if necessary replacing Hoppe. Rothbard was Hoppe's mentor and it is straightforward to prove that he has exerted much more intellectual and institutional relevance than Hoppe. If only one of the two were to be included in the intellectual's list, it's Rothbard. 189.93.247.59 ( talk) 18:58, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
"What else do conservatives and libertarians profess in common? The answer to that question is simple: nothing. Nor will they ever. To talk of forming a league or coalition between these two is like advocating a union of ice and fire."
"Conservatives have no intention of compromising with socialists, but even such an alliance, ridiculous though it would be, is more conceivable than the coalition of conservatives and libertarians."
"When heaven and earth have passed away, perhaps the conservative mind and the libertarian mind may be joined in synthesis, but not until then."
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“Add Supreme Court Justice Pierce Butler To The List Of Jurists” 24.179.241.58 ( talk) 00:43, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
It's apparently "controversial" to say Leonard Leo, a man who has never tried a case or sat on a bench, is accurately described as a "jurist" and trying to find a broader term like "legal movement" is something worth reverting. Therequiembellishere ( talk) 23:17, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
And Ed Meese described as a "jurist"?? Honestly think he'd be surprised by that. Therequiembellishere ( talk) 23:18, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
just asking because i intend to add him StrongALPHA ( talk) 12:14, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
Now another person has added 24-year-old Jackson Hinkle, who is described as a communist pro-Russian troll in his article. (I will assume it is not one user making this addition with a sock puppet.) I am not allowed to revert more than once. @ GreenLoeb: Could you please make the reversion? Trakking ( talk) 11:00, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
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Seems to’ve become quite the spokesperson for the position. Hyperbolick ( talk) 02:15, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
The inclusion of God and Man at Yale, A Choice Not an Echo, and The Closing of the American Mind I understand. These are extremely well-known, still in print, and referenced even today. Some of the others, though, left me scratching my head. Hillbilly Elegy? The Benedict Option? You might as well go back to including It Take a Family and other forgettable election-season memoirs and how-tos that get churned out, chewed up, and forgotten. I think if this template is going to have a list of works, they should be self-evidently recognizable as bastions of argument and philosophy—the kinds of books that leave everyone both speechless and scrambling for some way to react to it. It doesn't have to be universally acclaimed, but it shouldn't be something that you go "what was that book about, again?" five years after you read it. Honestly, I don't think any works within the last 25 years should be included unless they meet that criteria. -- Veggies ( talk) 23:29, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
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Add Rothbard to the Intellectuals list, OR replace Hoppe with Rothbard. Rothbard should be part of the "Intellectuals" list, if necessary replacing Hoppe. Rothbard was Hoppe's mentor and it is straightforward to prove that he has exerted much more intellectual and institutional relevance than Hoppe. If only one of the two were to be included in the intellectual's list, it's Rothbard. 189.93.247.59 ( talk) 18:58, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
"What else do conservatives and libertarians profess in common? The answer to that question is simple: nothing. Nor will they ever. To talk of forming a league or coalition between these two is like advocating a union of ice and fire."
"Conservatives have no intention of compromising with socialists, but even such an alliance, ridiculous though it would be, is more conceivable than the coalition of conservatives and libertarians."
"When heaven and earth have passed away, perhaps the conservative mind and the libertarian mind may be joined in synthesis, but not until then."
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“Add Supreme Court Justice Pierce Butler To The List Of Jurists” 24.179.241.58 ( talk) 00:43, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
It's apparently "controversial" to say Leonard Leo, a man who has never tried a case or sat on a bench, is accurately described as a "jurist" and trying to find a broader term like "legal movement" is something worth reverting. Therequiembellishere ( talk) 23:17, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
And Ed Meese described as a "jurist"?? Honestly think he'd be surprised by that. Therequiembellishere ( talk) 23:18, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
just asking because i intend to add him StrongALPHA ( talk) 12:14, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
Now another person has added 24-year-old Jackson Hinkle, who is described as a communist pro-Russian troll in his article. (I will assume it is not one user making this addition with a sock puppet.) I am not allowed to revert more than once. @ GreenLoeb: Could you please make the reversion? Trakking ( talk) 11:00, 16 November 2023 (UTC)