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Should the flag displayed really be the English royal Ensign? All of the other Commonwealth Realms have their own royal ensigns. I know it's a bit difficult to work out *what* flag to put there, but still. . . Slac speak up! 21:05, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The placement of this template in country articles has caused considerable disquiet, especially with regards to Australia and Canada. Testament to this fact is the breakdown of a never-begun discussion, and the continuing "edit wars" betwixt users Astrotrain and SimonP. I unwittingly became embroiled in an issue I didn't imagine would be so large, and that I was oblivious to, until Clarkk caught me up. To make my views clear, I dislike the proliferation of templates on country articles for reasons of aesthetics and practitibility. The "Commonwealth Realms" template, I think, could be a useful template if it were placed in an article of more direct relevance. Such placement could be in either "Queen of..."/"*Country* monarchy" or "Government of...". So the question I would like to propose, is not whether the template should be deleted but what it should link to. Thoughts?-- Cyberjunkie 06:04, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I noticed what they do in United States is put templates in the body of the article, under the main headings. Does anyone that think this would be a good solution to the problem of "template creep" at the bottom page? Slac speak up! 00:08, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
~A Commonwealth Realm by definition is a country so the template belongs on pages associated with the country, not merely its head of state. If a template is relevant to a country it belongs to a country. FearÉIREANN File:Tricolour.gif\ (caint) 20:48, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Your vandalism of templates is getting tedious and will have to be taken further. Don't act the fool, Simon. You know very well that the WTO is an organisation. NATO is an organisation. However Commonwealth Realms are countries, not monarchies. So they go on the page about the country. But then you already know that, which is why you tried to sneak in changes into the template to redirect the links to countries to pages about monarchies. And why you keep trying to add in non-country topics like the Balfour Declaration and other issues just to remake the template in a way that will allow you to justify deleting it from pages. It is as blatently dishonest and mischievous as when you tried to add in dodgy doctoring to category:Westminster System, etc. Your behaviour at this stage will be raised with others. It is simply part of your own man campaign to bully everyone into doing what you want on templates. FearÉIREANN File:Tricolour.gif\ (caint) 22:55, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
The WTO is an organisation. It has countries in it. A commonwealth realm is a country and nothing else. There is no organisation called Commonwealth Realm. Stop being ridiculous. FearÉIREANN \ (caint) 23:22, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Commonwealth realms, as you well know, as 16 countries who share a constitutional monarch, though in each the monarch reigns as the native head of state. So it makes logical sense to link each country through the template to others who share a communal monarch, as they all shared at interlinked constitutional evolution. But that doesn't interest you. All you is to delete templates from articles and you make up all sorts of ridiculous reasons to justify your war on templates. FearÉIREANN \ (caint) 23:41, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
There is a long list of templates representing a country's connections to other countries that could be added to a country's page presents a serious problem: if all are added, the page becomes unwieldy and violates the guidleine on length of articles. If only some are added, then we end up with a dispute over which ones are most important. It is going to be inherently POV to argue whether sharing a figurehead monarch is more important than being part of an economic association or a military alliance. To avoid this, I think it is best to include the template on branch pages that relate to the nature of the country's connection with other countries. In other words, include the Commonwealth Realm template on the Monarchy in Canada page, include the G8 template on the Politics of Canada page, etc. Ground Zero 12:44, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
Seeing as how Wikipedia basically becomes more advanced every month and we can now "hide" or "show" template contents (especially for really large templates), why not create a Commonwealth template with all the countries of the Commonwealth in it (not just the Commonwealth Realms or Commonwealth Republics)? Also was there ever such a template to begin with? 208.138.38.88 04:58, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
I removed Rhodesia. It was never a commonwealth realm. Gerard von Hebel ( talk) 12:14, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
Technically since the United Kingdom's monarchies were merged, wouldn't it be one monarchy represented in various separate kingdoms? As opposed to multiple monarchies? CaribDigita ( talk) 06:33, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
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Should the flag displayed really be the English royal Ensign? All of the other Commonwealth Realms have their own royal ensigns. I know it's a bit difficult to work out *what* flag to put there, but still. . . Slac speak up! 21:05, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The placement of this template in country articles has caused considerable disquiet, especially with regards to Australia and Canada. Testament to this fact is the breakdown of a never-begun discussion, and the continuing "edit wars" betwixt users Astrotrain and SimonP. I unwittingly became embroiled in an issue I didn't imagine would be so large, and that I was oblivious to, until Clarkk caught me up. To make my views clear, I dislike the proliferation of templates on country articles for reasons of aesthetics and practitibility. The "Commonwealth Realms" template, I think, could be a useful template if it were placed in an article of more direct relevance. Such placement could be in either "Queen of..."/"*Country* monarchy" or "Government of...". So the question I would like to propose, is not whether the template should be deleted but what it should link to. Thoughts?-- Cyberjunkie 06:04, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I noticed what they do in United States is put templates in the body of the article, under the main headings. Does anyone that think this would be a good solution to the problem of "template creep" at the bottom page? Slac speak up! 00:08, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
~A Commonwealth Realm by definition is a country so the template belongs on pages associated with the country, not merely its head of state. If a template is relevant to a country it belongs to a country. FearÉIREANN File:Tricolour.gif\ (caint) 20:48, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Your vandalism of templates is getting tedious and will have to be taken further. Don't act the fool, Simon. You know very well that the WTO is an organisation. NATO is an organisation. However Commonwealth Realms are countries, not monarchies. So they go on the page about the country. But then you already know that, which is why you tried to sneak in changes into the template to redirect the links to countries to pages about monarchies. And why you keep trying to add in non-country topics like the Balfour Declaration and other issues just to remake the template in a way that will allow you to justify deleting it from pages. It is as blatently dishonest and mischievous as when you tried to add in dodgy doctoring to category:Westminster System, etc. Your behaviour at this stage will be raised with others. It is simply part of your own man campaign to bully everyone into doing what you want on templates. FearÉIREANN File:Tricolour.gif\ (caint) 22:55, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
The WTO is an organisation. It has countries in it. A commonwealth realm is a country and nothing else. There is no organisation called Commonwealth Realm. Stop being ridiculous. FearÉIREANN \ (caint) 23:22, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Commonwealth realms, as you well know, as 16 countries who share a constitutional monarch, though in each the monarch reigns as the native head of state. So it makes logical sense to link each country through the template to others who share a communal monarch, as they all shared at interlinked constitutional evolution. But that doesn't interest you. All you is to delete templates from articles and you make up all sorts of ridiculous reasons to justify your war on templates. FearÉIREANN \ (caint) 23:41, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
There is a long list of templates representing a country's connections to other countries that could be added to a country's page presents a serious problem: if all are added, the page becomes unwieldy and violates the guidleine on length of articles. If only some are added, then we end up with a dispute over which ones are most important. It is going to be inherently POV to argue whether sharing a figurehead monarch is more important than being part of an economic association or a military alliance. To avoid this, I think it is best to include the template on branch pages that relate to the nature of the country's connection with other countries. In other words, include the Commonwealth Realm template on the Monarchy in Canada page, include the G8 template on the Politics of Canada page, etc. Ground Zero 12:44, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
Seeing as how Wikipedia basically becomes more advanced every month and we can now "hide" or "show" template contents (especially for really large templates), why not create a Commonwealth template with all the countries of the Commonwealth in it (not just the Commonwealth Realms or Commonwealth Republics)? Also was there ever such a template to begin with? 208.138.38.88 04:58, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
I removed Rhodesia. It was never a commonwealth realm. Gerard von Hebel ( talk) 12:14, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
Technically since the United Kingdom's monarchies were merged, wouldn't it be one monarchy represented in various separate kingdoms? As opposed to multiple monarchies? CaribDigita ( talk) 06:33, 2 April 2017 (UTC)