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Am I the only one that thinks there's a whole lot of nonsense being added or moved around here lately? I see very little in the last five dozen edits that's an improvement, and none of it was discussed here on the Talk page, or justified in the edit summaries, of which there are none. I'm proposing a rollback to rev. 1042414672 ( diff) of 21:53, 4 September by Norfolkbigfish. The current version doesn't have consensus, so one could just as well revert without discussion based on WP:BRD, but I thought I'd poll the regulars to get some feedback first. Mathglot ( talk) 08:46, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
Softwarestatistik, I see you're back, with the addition of Eucharist. It's a sacrament; if it meets with consensus to add it to the sidebar, then for starters, why this one, and not the other six, or just a link to the generic article? As far as whether to add it at all, I'm not sure. Sidebars are by nature usually much briefer than footer nav bars, and cover just the top-level, most important concepts. Eucharist would probably be necessary for a Catholicism sidebar (there doesn't seem to be one). The {{ Catholic Church footer}} includes "Eucharist" (along with the others) in subgroup "Sacraments", but there are dozens of other links under "Theology" there, and clearly we don't want to import all of that here to the sidebar. Conversely, the Eucharist is not celebrated in every denomination. Let's see what others say (and this time, please respond; you were already blocked once for not doing so). The section above could benefit from your thoughts as well. Thanks, Mathglot ( talk) 18:29, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Softwarestatistik ( talk • contribs) 00:15, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello. The division of Christian denominations between East and West is not international, does not include all continents ( Wikipedia: Systemic bias) and gives the impression that denominations from such and such a region (East and West) are present only in such region (East and West). Which is wrong. The most common, inclusive international academic approach of all continents is: Catholicism, Orthodox Christianity and Protestantism. What do you think? -- Nathan B2 ( talk) 22:31, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
After much debate Crusades has evolved into a MILHIST article that covers the passagium generale whose objective was the recovery and defence of Jerusalem in the Middle Ages, their legacy and aftermath. Crusading movement describes the development of instituitions of Crusading, described as a movement on the Oxford Illustrated History of the Crusade as well as elsewhere. The wider definition of the latter makes it a better fit for this template, either in addition to the link to the former or as a replacement. This was done under WP:BRD, reverted and now this opens the discussion. Norfolkbigfish ( talk) 09:21, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
I propose adding Calvinism under Denominations > Western > Protestant. GuardianH ( talk) 08:46, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
Most of the new links added by helper are those concerning homosexuality. For example Christianity and homosexuality and the history of Christianity and homosexuality or LGBT clergy and gay bishop and Homosexual clergy in the Catholic Church and List of Christian denominational positions on homosexuality and The Bible and homosexuality and Queer theology and Christianity and transgender people. This is an overview template and so we don't need two related links for each topic. Otherwise the template will be bloated for no reason. I have tried to trim these links but was reverted. I have given my reason for reverting back here.
Also, terrorism is not a major topic associated with Christianity. I see no reason for its conclusion and will remove it as well. Durziil89 ( talk) 15:04, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
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Am I the only one that thinks there's a whole lot of nonsense being added or moved around here lately? I see very little in the last five dozen edits that's an improvement, and none of it was discussed here on the Talk page, or justified in the edit summaries, of which there are none. I'm proposing a rollback to rev. 1042414672 ( diff) of 21:53, 4 September by Norfolkbigfish. The current version doesn't have consensus, so one could just as well revert without discussion based on WP:BRD, but I thought I'd poll the regulars to get some feedback first. Mathglot ( talk) 08:46, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
Softwarestatistik, I see you're back, with the addition of Eucharist. It's a sacrament; if it meets with consensus to add it to the sidebar, then for starters, why this one, and not the other six, or just a link to the generic article? As far as whether to add it at all, I'm not sure. Sidebars are by nature usually much briefer than footer nav bars, and cover just the top-level, most important concepts. Eucharist would probably be necessary for a Catholicism sidebar (there doesn't seem to be one). The {{ Catholic Church footer}} includes "Eucharist" (along with the others) in subgroup "Sacraments", but there are dozens of other links under "Theology" there, and clearly we don't want to import all of that here to the sidebar. Conversely, the Eucharist is not celebrated in every denomination. Let's see what others say (and this time, please respond; you were already blocked once for not doing so). The section above could benefit from your thoughts as well. Thanks, Mathglot ( talk) 18:29, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Softwarestatistik ( talk • contribs) 00:15, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello. The division of Christian denominations between East and West is not international, does not include all continents ( Wikipedia: Systemic bias) and gives the impression that denominations from such and such a region (East and West) are present only in such region (East and West). Which is wrong. The most common, inclusive international academic approach of all continents is: Catholicism, Orthodox Christianity and Protestantism. What do you think? -- Nathan B2 ( talk) 22:31, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
After much debate Crusades has evolved into a MILHIST article that covers the passagium generale whose objective was the recovery and defence of Jerusalem in the Middle Ages, their legacy and aftermath. Crusading movement describes the development of instituitions of Crusading, described as a movement on the Oxford Illustrated History of the Crusade as well as elsewhere. The wider definition of the latter makes it a better fit for this template, either in addition to the link to the former or as a replacement. This was done under WP:BRD, reverted and now this opens the discussion. Norfolkbigfish ( talk) 09:21, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
I propose adding Calvinism under Denominations > Western > Protestant. GuardianH ( talk) 08:46, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
Most of the new links added by helper are those concerning homosexuality. For example Christianity and homosexuality and the history of Christianity and homosexuality or LGBT clergy and gay bishop and Homosexual clergy in the Catholic Church and List of Christian denominational positions on homosexuality and The Bible and homosexuality and Queer theology and Christianity and transgender people. This is an overview template and so we don't need two related links for each topic. Otherwise the template will be bloated for no reason. I have tried to trim these links but was reverted. I have given my reason for reverting back here.
Also, terrorism is not a major topic associated with Christianity. I see no reason for its conclusion and will remove it as well. Durziil89 ( talk) 15:04, 29 November 2023 (UTC)