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This template is built on the model of {{ 2009 flu pandemic}}. Yug (talk) 11:26, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
See also commons:Category:Diagrams about 2019–20 outbreak of novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV).
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The order is currently: Origin, Virus, Institutions, People, Locations, Data and figures, Vaccines/treatments
I propose that it be changed to: Virus, Origin, Locations, People, Institutions, Vaccines/treatments, Data and figures ParadiseDesertOasis8888 ( talk) 10:06, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
I added back the locations. A nav template is a navigation template. Its role is to points the users to the relevant consultation / contribution points. Countries are significant consultation / contribution points to be included here as does {{ 2009 flu pandemic}}. Yug (talk) 11:26, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
This guy may have notability status in Chinese sources. Yug (talk) 22:26, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
Can editors remind themselves of WP:NAVBOX guidance? A navigation box is for a set of closely interrelated articles. We've had numerous articles added to this template that themselves make zero mention of 2019-nCoV or the Wuhan outbreak. If Wuhan coronavirus warrants no mention on those articles, we shouldn't be linking to them. Bondegezou ( talk) 11:16, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Guan Yi's article makes no mention of the Wuhan virus, so why is he in this template? Can either the article be updated, or removed here? Bondegezou ( talk) 07:59, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
Are 'Xenophobia and racism' and 'Diamond Princess' really needed for 'Main topics and impact'?-- Kyuri1449 ( talk) 02:42, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
"Xenophobia and racism" is out of place, but "Diamond Princess" is now a major outbreak outside of China. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pestilence Unchained ( talk • contribs) 10:16, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
Please, help us keep items in this template and refrain from removing them because "their wikipedia article don't contain enough link to coronavirus".
Some of us editors have identified these actors are leading figures in the discourse or fight against the virus, from online news, therefor : 1) in each article, the link is stated : these researchers are involved with the current virus / epidemic ; 2) we increased the visibility of their articles so the wiki process can occur with higher visibility comes higher edits, biography article gets expanded and coverage of the link gets better. If some of us come and delete those articles from this central template, then the left hand and the right hand are cancelling each other to the lose of the encyclopedic community. Also remember : there are English news sources for a mainly Chinese subject. There are more sources in Chinese to dig out. So there is *full confidence* these articles are connected by news sources to the coronavirus. We already have basic English citations stating the link. Help us find more citations is always welcome : it's how wikipedia builds up. If you know the right templates to put on the top of these biography articles to encourage improvement of the said articles based on the news cited above, please help out. Yug (talk) 06:26, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
The Shincheonji Church of Jesus the Temple of the Tabernacle of the Testimony should be mentioned in the template in connection to South Korea's spike in cases, but I don't know where to put it. Jayab 314 13:56, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
For three hours, the 'V T E' links of this template went to Template:WUHAN19 and so on. This would have only affected editors, not readers, but it could have led to a lot of frustrated less-experienced editors, who may not have understood what had happened.
Is this serious enough for semi-protection for this template, keeping in mind the disadvantage of blocking IP editors, many of whom make good edits? Boud ( talk) 14:36, 25 February 2020 (UTC) (s/./?/ Boud ( talk) 18:49, 25 February 2020 (UTC))
Informal proposal: remove the Diamond Princess (ship) World Dream MS Westerdam links from this template, because we already have the 2020 coronavirus outbreak on cruise ships link, and we do not have any other "locations" that link to articles about the locations themselves; the other links are to articles about the COVID-19 outbreak in each location. These have been removed at least once (by me) and restored by someone else. Boud ( talk) 14:40, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
Proposal: state [[2020 coronavirus outbreak on cruise ships|Cruise ships]], instead of [[2020 coronavirus outbreak on cruise ships|International conveyance]] (without italics); because the WHO terminology is likely to be obscure to the huge majority of readers, who will search for "ships" or "Diamond Princess" and find nothing. Also, the term so far only applies to cruise ships (though in the future may apply to other types of ships, and to planes). Boud ( talk) 22:57, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
Columns of 'SARS-CoV-2 positive' should be eliminated ASAP. It violates 'a honor to living person' on Wikipedias, regardless privacy violations.-- Kyuri1449 ( talk) 08:12, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
The source above cites Chang Kai (cineast) and Xu Dapeng as recent notable deads. How to handle them given we have no English article. Yug (talk) 00:46, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
The navbox points to a large number of templates. This is very unusual. We don't usually point to a template in any sort of article space. The purpose of a navbox is to point to articles. Articles provide context; templates don't and may be misinterpreted if seen outside of any article context.
I suggest we move all links to templates to articles or article sections. I will seek input on the matter at Wikipedia talk:Categories, lists, and navigation templates and Wikipedia talk:Templates. Bondegezou ( talk) 09:47, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
Would anyone else like to weigh in here? Bondegezou ( talk) 16:20, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
The present lead of
Li Wenliang states Li Wenliang (Chinese: 李文亮; 12 October 1986 – 7 February 2020) was a Chinese ophthalmologist at Wuhan Central Hospital who warned about COVID-19 on 30 December 2019 on WeChat to fellow colleagues, becoming a whistleblower when his warnings were later shared publicly.[1][2] On 3 January 2020, Wuhan police summoned and admonished him for "making false comments on the Internet".[1][3] Li returned to work, later contracting the virus from an infected patient and dying from the disease on 7 February 2020.[4][5]
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It is clear from the first article, including its lead, that what is notable about Li Wenliang in the context of this template is his whistleblowing, and that his death is less notable (though still significant). This is why I reverted this diff. Boud ( talk) 20:37, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
I think we should split the navbox into the new template. Thingofme ( talk) 12:31, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
Can someone add Israel to the list of countries under Data? It can be linked to this template: Template:2019–20 coronavirus pandemic data/Israel medical cases chart
-- Chocom ( talk) 13:59, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
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Add Michael J Ryan (doctor) to the People -> Official sections as the main person who is dealing with this in the WHO 82.16.105.59 ( talk) 12:01, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
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I've added a medical cases chart for French Polynesia (Oceania) : /info/en/?search=Template:2019%E2%80%9320_coronavirus_pandemic_data/French_Polynesia_medical_cases_chart DavidChungue ( talk) 10:54, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
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Fix typo in in the "impact" section: Change Aviaion to Aviation 70.23.49.244 ( talk) 16:03, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
The UN has a subcontinent division scheme as in here. I know that different people have different conceptions of how to divide up continents (e.g. the UN scheme has no "central Europe" or "central Asia"), but would this geoscheme be a good enough division for the countries? Also cc @ Uanfala:. Rethliopuks ( talk) 13:17, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
I think this should be removed, as it will quickly become unwieldy. It already misses a number of notable people who have the disease. All the best:
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Farmbrough (the apparently calm and reasonable) 18:38, 9 March 2020 (UTC).
Given the unanimity here, I've boldly removed this from the template. Bondegezou ( talk) 17:25, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
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Turkey is a transcontinental country located in Western Asia and Southeastern Europe. While 95% of the country is in Asia, nearly 20 million Turkish people are living in the European side of the country. Turkey must be included in both of the categories (Asia and Europe). 78.190.227.142 ( talk) 16:33, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Why is she listed in the table? I find no mention of the outbreak in her article. 2607:FEA8:1DDF:FEE1:81AE:8E3C:BF30:D275 ( talk) 01:38, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
Why are these mentioned specifically? Worth keeping or too tangentially related to the pandemic? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 22:11, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
I'd say keep the ones covering large countries, or countries particularly affected by the outbreak. Those institutions are the most important ones in relation to this pandemic. Gust Justice ( talk) 18:43, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
@ Britishfinance: How is this relevant with the topic? Would it just lead to some confusion? — hueman1 ( talk • contributions) 11:25, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
What organisational purposes does it serve to establish a country-level group header for the US? It is alphabetically the last in North America anyway, so there's no worry of not being able to locate it or any territories behind it, and giving it its own lines should suffice. Establishing a new header level would on the contrary make the template appear confusing, and I don't see enough reasons to justify doing that. Rethliopuks ( talk) 15:53, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
(Pinging @ Another Believer:)It is a WikiProject dedicated to the coronavirus, so I think it should belong on the footer, next to the category and commons links. CoronavirusPlagueDoctor ( talk) 19:21, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
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Please could someone remove the Commons link from the footer, as external links are not permitted in navboxes. See also this discussion. 212.135.65.247 ( talk) 11:35, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
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I would suggest to add a link to {{ Hospital beds by country}} or List_of_countries_by_hospital_beds, in the Data > Global section. This issue is central and critical to COVID19 epidemic as it may double the mortality rate. It is also important to raise awareness on this issue so public pressure build on and emergency hospitals are built as soon as possible. We wikipedia should simply inform the public, making critical data easily available. Yug (talk) 11:08, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
Unless WP:ECP isn't applicable to templates, why WP:TPROT? Only 1,322 Wikipedians have the WP:TPE privilege, while the number of Wikipedians with WP:XC is 49,621. The COVID-19 pandemic is a rapidly evolving situation and restricting the editing ability of its navigation template to just over one thousand people will make the template very quickly outdated, which negatively impacts the quality of Wikipedia on the COVID-19 pandemic due to an unsuitable navigator. Not to mention, this will stop many good edits from happening because of the trouble of raising a template protection edit request as opposed to a normal edit.
The Wikipedia policy for template protection is "It should be used on templates whose risk factor would have otherwise warranted full protection". Does this template satisfy this condition? cc @ El C:. Rethliopuks ( talk) 10:15, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
How should U.S. state and local government response to the 2020 coronavirus pandemic be added to the template? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:03, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Most of the links in the Lockdowns subgroup are redirects to articles about the pandemic in the country. Should they be retained? Most people would probably just go to the country level article in the first place, even if they knew that a lockdown had occurred. I see no useful purpose in the links where there is no article of that title to link to, and it is not an inherently notable concept deserving its own article. · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 06:49, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
Should White Center COVID-19 quarantine site be added to this template? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 04:09, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
But can we include Li Wenliang in the Infected (Deaths) subgroup as well? I'm not too savvy with navbox policies, but he would fit both subgroups. -- Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝) 01:52, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
Two things:
1. I advocate for keeping the "United States" header because there are ~50 pages here to group together. I'm not sure we need to break down Africa, Europe, and other areas by region when there are not nearly as many entries to organize and this just makes the template much larger.
2. If we're going to have region headers, can we make them the same width? So, for example, "United States" and "West Africa" cells are the same width.
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 14:44, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
There have now been (UTC 2020/03/16 5:20) 50 entries under "Asia" and 53 under "Europe", whereas there are 50 under "North America". If people have been apparently uncomfortable with the number of entries under North America, I suggest splitting "Asia" and "Europe" into their respective subcontinents for consistency. Rethliopuks ( talk) 05:22, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
As for the "the number of US state articles will increase" argument, I am in the process of translating Chinese province articles from Chinese wikipedia, and more articles for subnational European divisions are bound to pop up (see: North Rhine-Westphalia under Germany). Hence I see the current layout of the template as well as the rationales for it as inconsistent. Rethliopuks ( talk) 05:27, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, I started a discussion below proposing merging of the Europe subsections, which I find unnecessary and not intuitive to many readers. I'd like to see the Africa and Asia sections merged as well. We should only be creating subsections when necessary for organizational purposes, not just for the sake of creating subsections. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 18:20, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
The New Brunswick link for the article titled " 2020 coronavirus pandemic in New Brunswick" because it was already created and it was missing under Canada then under "North America" at "Locations". Could you add "2020 coronavirus pandemic in New Brunswick" and cover it and it would say "New Brunswick" under Canada and North America at "Locations". This is an urgent edit request. Thanks. 2001:569:74D2:A800:C955:CE75:3DDA:DC2A ( talk) 00:07, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
I propose removing the region headers in the Europe section. I'm not European and I'm unfamiliar with the definitions of "Schengen Area" and "Common Travel Area". Perhaps these are familiar terms for Europeans but I'm guessing many other editors and readers are in the same boat as me. Previously, I've advocated for keeping the U.S. subsection header, but that's because there are ~50 pages for the U.S. The same cannot be said for these regions of Europe. Again, I propose removing the region headers and just having a single section for Europe. I plan to make similar proposals for other sections. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 18:18, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
Please do not add countries/regions that have recommendations that people stay at home or other suggested protective measures. These are not governmental "lockdowns". A lockdown is a government act to force people to adopt or restrict certain behavior, such as no unnecessary movement, traveling outside an area or no trips outside of ones home. For example, California (U.S.) was added to this section the other day but they are not under a lockdown. Liz Read! Talk! 19:54, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
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The data section in this templates, are all link to templates (+ 1x svg). Other links in this templates are links to articles. This is not visible. Can this be changed:
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31.201.130.50 ( talk) 14:45, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
Just as the list of infected people in this template was removed for being too long eventually, there will unfortunately be a time when the list of notable deaths will become very large in comparison to more limited fields, such as that of researchers or government officials.
The problem with the header "notable deaths" is that its notability criteria is being notable for a Wikipedia article. I watch the BBC News every night and with the exception of Li Wenliang and maybe some of the other early cases of medical staff in China, not one of these people has even been mentioned on national news for their death - I would say that is the definition of a "notable death", as the mere infections of some people like Tom Hanks has been lead news here.
As this list gets longer, it may become more handy to make for example a template for the pandemic per country. In that template could be listed all the officials, deaths, and related topics such as lockdowns and other policies and effects. I think for example a box on the pandemic in Italy would be a more suitable template for stub pages such as Italo De Zan and Francesco Saverio Pavone, instead of a huge template with everything about the pandemic from all over the world.
Wallachia Wallonia ( talk) 22:36, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
Is Template:Hospital beds by country specific to COVID-19? If not, should be removed. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 18:08, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
Should it be integrated into the template ? Similar to Covid-19 related shortage (which is more international). Yug (talk) 21:03, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
I understand that some users want to avoid listing countries twice in the template, but as some of you may already know, Russia, Kazakhstan, Turkey and Azerbaijan are located in both Asia and Europe. There have been a number of users that keep removing and adding them to both sections (including me!), but it seems that a general consensus has not been reached. I'll be glad if users help with making a final decision here. Keivan.f Talk 00:40, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Hi. As time goes on, the number of deaths goes up, as does the number of notable people who died from COVID19. There could be hundreds, if not thousands of people in this template in the upcoming weeks. Therefore, is it time to stop listing every single person on the template, and simply link to the parent category? Thoughts? Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 17:28, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
I see consensus for removal and removed them. Last version with the list in case someone wants to see the former list. -- mfb ( talk) 06:24, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
This is becoming a general list of important politicians in the world, and it's getting way too long. We don't need a list of every prime minister/president in every country here. Can we cut that list down to the most important people where their relevance comes from the pandemic? -- mfb ( talk) 06:15, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
I cut it down to 6 people. Three from the WHO, and the leading responsible person in the US, China and Italy (excluding elected officials whose notability comes from their job, not from the pandemic), as these three countries have the largest case counts. -- mfb ( talk) 04:45, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
I propose that the most entries in the "Institutions" section be removed. The various Centers for Disease Control, hospitals, and virology institutes listed are not specifically relevant to the pandemic. For the remaining institutions which are specifically related, it may be reasonable to reorganize them into a merged "People and organizations" section. -- Yair rand ( talk) 22:30, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Is Vietnam Eastern Asia, or Southeast Asia? In my opinion, we should classify Regions of Asia as 「 East Asia and ASEAN」, and rest of Asia. If you consider it in other ways, then please share your thought for this topic. Thanks for reading this opinion. 11:17, 22 March 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.237.125.110 ( talk)
I'm not going to keep going back and forth here, but for the record, I'd like to see the Asia subheaders removed. Alphabetical sorting for all of Asia makes finding specific locations easier, and removing the subheaders would help reduce the overall size of the template. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 04:01, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
I don't understand what part of my edit qualified as WP:OR. I was also only reverting to a previous version because the removal of these two did not have a consensus. Ping @ Gidonb:. Rethliopuks ( talk) 17:34, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
As for my African/North American subcontinent division, as I have referred to in my edit summaries, it comes from the UN geoscheme available here. Rethliopuks ( talk) 17:36, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
Isn't it in Central Asia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kittens n thugs ( talk • contribs) 00:57, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
There should be no distinction between countries in europe and the eu for two reasons. First, if you search for a european land you have to look into both lists as nobody knows if the searched country is in the eu or not. Second reason is, that the horrific construct eu will finally get destroyed by the china-virus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.209.6.128 ( talk) 07:39, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
This article seems interesting for this template. Yug (talk) 19:20, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
The interwiki for this template is gone. Now only 1 page is connected. I try to find the old item on Wikidata but no luck. Diki Ananta ● Talk 02:11, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
The list of hospitals in Wuhan is getting a little old — they're definitely not the only hospitals involved at this point. Time for a change? {{u| Sdkb}} talk 04:52, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
This template is quite large. In an attempt to reduce the template's overall size, I propose removing the subheaders for Africa (Central, East, North, South, and West), and just grouping all African locations together. We're not talking about an overwhelming number of entries, and for those who may not be very familiar with Africa's geography, I think alphabetical is better than making people search within specific regions. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 03:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
@ Rethliopuks: There is support for removing the Africa subheaders. Will you please undo your re-addition of the Africa subheaders? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 13:59, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
I've removed the subheaders, so there's now a single section for Africa. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:25, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
@ ApprenticeFan: Please undo this edit per this discussion. We don't need these subsections for the Africa section. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 14:57, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
This template sometimes does not render correctly and instead shows the following code:
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This only happens on certain pages, such as 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Italy. Neither purging the cache of the page nor using a different browser resolves this issue. Anyone know the cause? Ixfd64 ( talk) 19:38, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
I definitely think there are some sections that could be retweaked or reworked, particularly I'd say the "PEOPLE" tab, the "DATA" tab, we could definitely reduce the number of locations in the LOCATIONS tab and that could help it show up on some pages. QueerFilmNerd talk 20:20, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
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Should we include 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Antarctica? I'd add it in but I don't want to mess it up. It's not like adding in another country. Liz Read! Talk! 20:11, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
The two groups seems to have overlap and may gain to be merged in some way. Yug (talk) 20:04, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
The timeline sub-navbox looks much cleaner and matches the style of the other groups if it is it's own navbox child. Maybe something like this can be created?:
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 |
This template is built on the model of {{ 2009 flu pandemic}}. Yug (talk) 11:26, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
See also commons:Category:Diagrams about 2019–20 outbreak of novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV).
Yug (talk) 21:51, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
The order is currently: Origin, Virus, Institutions, People, Locations, Data and figures, Vaccines/treatments
I propose that it be changed to: Virus, Origin, Locations, People, Institutions, Vaccines/treatments, Data and figures ParadiseDesertOasis8888 ( talk) 10:06, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
I added back the locations. A nav template is a navigation template. Its role is to points the users to the relevant consultation / contribution points. Countries are significant consultation / contribution points to be included here as does {{ 2009 flu pandemic}}. Yug (talk) 11:26, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
This guy may have notability status in Chinese sources. Yug (talk) 22:26, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
Can editors remind themselves of WP:NAVBOX guidance? A navigation box is for a set of closely interrelated articles. We've had numerous articles added to this template that themselves make zero mention of 2019-nCoV or the Wuhan outbreak. If Wuhan coronavirus warrants no mention on those articles, we shouldn't be linking to them. Bondegezou ( talk) 11:16, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Guan Yi's article makes no mention of the Wuhan virus, so why is he in this template? Can either the article be updated, or removed here? Bondegezou ( talk) 07:59, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
Are 'Xenophobia and racism' and 'Diamond Princess' really needed for 'Main topics and impact'?-- Kyuri1449 ( talk) 02:42, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
"Xenophobia and racism" is out of place, but "Diamond Princess" is now a major outbreak outside of China. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pestilence Unchained ( talk • contribs) 10:16, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
Please, help us keep items in this template and refrain from removing them because "their wikipedia article don't contain enough link to coronavirus".
Some of us editors have identified these actors are leading figures in the discourse or fight against the virus, from online news, therefor : 1) in each article, the link is stated : these researchers are involved with the current virus / epidemic ; 2) we increased the visibility of their articles so the wiki process can occur with higher visibility comes higher edits, biography article gets expanded and coverage of the link gets better. If some of us come and delete those articles from this central template, then the left hand and the right hand are cancelling each other to the lose of the encyclopedic community. Also remember : there are English news sources for a mainly Chinese subject. There are more sources in Chinese to dig out. So there is *full confidence* these articles are connected by news sources to the coronavirus. We already have basic English citations stating the link. Help us find more citations is always welcome : it's how wikipedia builds up. If you know the right templates to put on the top of these biography articles to encourage improvement of the said articles based on the news cited above, please help out. Yug (talk) 06:26, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
The Shincheonji Church of Jesus the Temple of the Tabernacle of the Testimony should be mentioned in the template in connection to South Korea's spike in cases, but I don't know where to put it. Jayab 314 13:56, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
For three hours, the 'V T E' links of this template went to Template:WUHAN19 and so on. This would have only affected editors, not readers, but it could have led to a lot of frustrated less-experienced editors, who may not have understood what had happened.
Is this serious enough for semi-protection for this template, keeping in mind the disadvantage of blocking IP editors, many of whom make good edits? Boud ( talk) 14:36, 25 February 2020 (UTC) (s/./?/ Boud ( talk) 18:49, 25 February 2020 (UTC))
Informal proposal: remove the Diamond Princess (ship) World Dream MS Westerdam links from this template, because we already have the 2020 coronavirus outbreak on cruise ships link, and we do not have any other "locations" that link to articles about the locations themselves; the other links are to articles about the COVID-19 outbreak in each location. These have been removed at least once (by me) and restored by someone else. Boud ( talk) 14:40, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
Proposal: state [[2020 coronavirus outbreak on cruise ships|Cruise ships]], instead of [[2020 coronavirus outbreak on cruise ships|International conveyance]] (without italics); because the WHO terminology is likely to be obscure to the huge majority of readers, who will search for "ships" or "Diamond Princess" and find nothing. Also, the term so far only applies to cruise ships (though in the future may apply to other types of ships, and to planes). Boud ( talk) 22:57, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
Columns of 'SARS-CoV-2 positive' should be eliminated ASAP. It violates 'a honor to living person' on Wikipedias, regardless privacy violations.-- Kyuri1449 ( talk) 08:12, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
The source above cites Chang Kai (cineast) and Xu Dapeng as recent notable deads. How to handle them given we have no English article. Yug (talk) 00:46, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
The navbox points to a large number of templates. This is very unusual. We don't usually point to a template in any sort of article space. The purpose of a navbox is to point to articles. Articles provide context; templates don't and may be misinterpreted if seen outside of any article context.
I suggest we move all links to templates to articles or article sections. I will seek input on the matter at Wikipedia talk:Categories, lists, and navigation templates and Wikipedia talk:Templates. Bondegezou ( talk) 09:47, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
Would anyone else like to weigh in here? Bondegezou ( talk) 16:20, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
The present lead of
Li Wenliang states Li Wenliang (Chinese: 李文亮; 12 October 1986 – 7 February 2020) was a Chinese ophthalmologist at Wuhan Central Hospital who warned about COVID-19 on 30 December 2019 on WeChat to fellow colleagues, becoming a whistleblower when his warnings were later shared publicly.[1][2] On 3 January 2020, Wuhan police summoned and admonished him for "making false comments on the Internet".[1][3] Li returned to work, later contracting the virus from an infected patient and dying from the disease on 7 February 2020.[4][5]
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It is clear from the first article, including its lead, that what is notable about Li Wenliang in the context of this template is his whistleblowing, and that his death is less notable (though still significant). This is why I reverted this diff. Boud ( talk) 20:37, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
I think we should split the navbox into the new template. Thingofme ( talk) 12:31, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
Can someone add Israel to the list of countries under Data? It can be linked to this template: Template:2019–20 coronavirus pandemic data/Israel medical cases chart
-- Chocom ( talk) 13:59, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
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Add Michael J Ryan (doctor) to the People -> Official sections as the main person who is dealing with this in the WHO 82.16.105.59 ( talk) 12:01, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
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I've added a medical cases chart for French Polynesia (Oceania) : /info/en/?search=Template:2019%E2%80%9320_coronavirus_pandemic_data/French_Polynesia_medical_cases_chart DavidChungue ( talk) 10:54, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
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Fix typo in in the "impact" section: Change Aviaion to Aviation 70.23.49.244 ( talk) 16:03, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
The UN has a subcontinent division scheme as in here. I know that different people have different conceptions of how to divide up continents (e.g. the UN scheme has no "central Europe" or "central Asia"), but would this geoscheme be a good enough division for the countries? Also cc @ Uanfala:. Rethliopuks ( talk) 13:17, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
I think this should be removed, as it will quickly become unwieldy. It already misses a number of notable people who have the disease. All the best:
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Farmbrough (the apparently calm and reasonable) 18:38, 9 March 2020 (UTC).
Given the unanimity here, I've boldly removed this from the template. Bondegezou ( talk) 17:25, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
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Turkey is a transcontinental country located in Western Asia and Southeastern Europe. While 95% of the country is in Asia, nearly 20 million Turkish people are living in the European side of the country. Turkey must be included in both of the categories (Asia and Europe). 78.190.227.142 ( talk) 16:33, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Why is she listed in the table? I find no mention of the outbreak in her article. 2607:FEA8:1DDF:FEE1:81AE:8E3C:BF30:D275 ( talk) 01:38, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
Why are these mentioned specifically? Worth keeping or too tangentially related to the pandemic? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 22:11, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
I'd say keep the ones covering large countries, or countries particularly affected by the outbreak. Those institutions are the most important ones in relation to this pandemic. Gust Justice ( talk) 18:43, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
@ Britishfinance: How is this relevant with the topic? Would it just lead to some confusion? — hueman1 ( talk • contributions) 11:25, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
What organisational purposes does it serve to establish a country-level group header for the US? It is alphabetically the last in North America anyway, so there's no worry of not being able to locate it or any territories behind it, and giving it its own lines should suffice. Establishing a new header level would on the contrary make the template appear confusing, and I don't see enough reasons to justify doing that. Rethliopuks ( talk) 15:53, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
(Pinging @ Another Believer:)It is a WikiProject dedicated to the coronavirus, so I think it should belong on the footer, next to the category and commons links. CoronavirusPlagueDoctor ( talk) 19:21, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
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Please could someone remove the Commons link from the footer, as external links are not permitted in navboxes. See also this discussion. 212.135.65.247 ( talk) 11:35, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
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I would suggest to add a link to {{ Hospital beds by country}} or List_of_countries_by_hospital_beds, in the Data > Global section. This issue is central and critical to COVID19 epidemic as it may double the mortality rate. It is also important to raise awareness on this issue so public pressure build on and emergency hospitals are built as soon as possible. We wikipedia should simply inform the public, making critical data easily available. Yug (talk) 11:08, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
Unless WP:ECP isn't applicable to templates, why WP:TPROT? Only 1,322 Wikipedians have the WP:TPE privilege, while the number of Wikipedians with WP:XC is 49,621. The COVID-19 pandemic is a rapidly evolving situation and restricting the editing ability of its navigation template to just over one thousand people will make the template very quickly outdated, which negatively impacts the quality of Wikipedia on the COVID-19 pandemic due to an unsuitable navigator. Not to mention, this will stop many good edits from happening because of the trouble of raising a template protection edit request as opposed to a normal edit.
The Wikipedia policy for template protection is "It should be used on templates whose risk factor would have otherwise warranted full protection". Does this template satisfy this condition? cc @ El C:. Rethliopuks ( talk) 10:15, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
How should U.S. state and local government response to the 2020 coronavirus pandemic be added to the template? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:03, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Most of the links in the Lockdowns subgroup are redirects to articles about the pandemic in the country. Should they be retained? Most people would probably just go to the country level article in the first place, even if they knew that a lockdown had occurred. I see no useful purpose in the links where there is no article of that title to link to, and it is not an inherently notable concept deserving its own article. · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 06:49, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
Should White Center COVID-19 quarantine site be added to this template? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 04:09, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
But can we include Li Wenliang in the Infected (Deaths) subgroup as well? I'm not too savvy with navbox policies, but he would fit both subgroups. -- Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝) 01:52, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
Two things:
1. I advocate for keeping the "United States" header because there are ~50 pages here to group together. I'm not sure we need to break down Africa, Europe, and other areas by region when there are not nearly as many entries to organize and this just makes the template much larger.
2. If we're going to have region headers, can we make them the same width? So, for example, "United States" and "West Africa" cells are the same width.
--- Another Believer ( Talk) 14:44, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
There have now been (UTC 2020/03/16 5:20) 50 entries under "Asia" and 53 under "Europe", whereas there are 50 under "North America". If people have been apparently uncomfortable with the number of entries under North America, I suggest splitting "Asia" and "Europe" into their respective subcontinents for consistency. Rethliopuks ( talk) 05:22, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
As for the "the number of US state articles will increase" argument, I am in the process of translating Chinese province articles from Chinese wikipedia, and more articles for subnational European divisions are bound to pop up (see: North Rhine-Westphalia under Germany). Hence I see the current layout of the template as well as the rationales for it as inconsistent. Rethliopuks ( talk) 05:27, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, I started a discussion below proposing merging of the Europe subsections, which I find unnecessary and not intuitive to many readers. I'd like to see the Africa and Asia sections merged as well. We should only be creating subsections when necessary for organizational purposes, not just for the sake of creating subsections. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 18:20, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
The New Brunswick link for the article titled " 2020 coronavirus pandemic in New Brunswick" because it was already created and it was missing under Canada then under "North America" at "Locations". Could you add "2020 coronavirus pandemic in New Brunswick" and cover it and it would say "New Brunswick" under Canada and North America at "Locations". This is an urgent edit request. Thanks. 2001:569:74D2:A800:C955:CE75:3DDA:DC2A ( talk) 00:07, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
I propose removing the region headers in the Europe section. I'm not European and I'm unfamiliar with the definitions of "Schengen Area" and "Common Travel Area". Perhaps these are familiar terms for Europeans but I'm guessing many other editors and readers are in the same boat as me. Previously, I've advocated for keeping the U.S. subsection header, but that's because there are ~50 pages for the U.S. The same cannot be said for these regions of Europe. Again, I propose removing the region headers and just having a single section for Europe. I plan to make similar proposals for other sections. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 18:18, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
Please do not add countries/regions that have recommendations that people stay at home or other suggested protective measures. These are not governmental "lockdowns". A lockdown is a government act to force people to adopt or restrict certain behavior, such as no unnecessary movement, traveling outside an area or no trips outside of ones home. For example, California (U.S.) was added to this section the other day but they are not under a lockdown. Liz Read! Talk! 19:54, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
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The data section in this templates, are all link to templates (+ 1x svg). Other links in this templates are links to articles. This is not visible. Can this be changed:
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31.201.130.50 ( talk) 14:45, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
Just as the list of infected people in this template was removed for being too long eventually, there will unfortunately be a time when the list of notable deaths will become very large in comparison to more limited fields, such as that of researchers or government officials.
The problem with the header "notable deaths" is that its notability criteria is being notable for a Wikipedia article. I watch the BBC News every night and with the exception of Li Wenliang and maybe some of the other early cases of medical staff in China, not one of these people has even been mentioned on national news for their death - I would say that is the definition of a "notable death", as the mere infections of some people like Tom Hanks has been lead news here.
As this list gets longer, it may become more handy to make for example a template for the pandemic per country. In that template could be listed all the officials, deaths, and related topics such as lockdowns and other policies and effects. I think for example a box on the pandemic in Italy would be a more suitable template for stub pages such as Italo De Zan and Francesco Saverio Pavone, instead of a huge template with everything about the pandemic from all over the world.
Wallachia Wallonia ( talk) 22:36, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
Is Template:Hospital beds by country specific to COVID-19? If not, should be removed. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 18:08, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
Should it be integrated into the template ? Similar to Covid-19 related shortage (which is more international). Yug (talk) 21:03, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
I understand that some users want to avoid listing countries twice in the template, but as some of you may already know, Russia, Kazakhstan, Turkey and Azerbaijan are located in both Asia and Europe. There have been a number of users that keep removing and adding them to both sections (including me!), but it seems that a general consensus has not been reached. I'll be glad if users help with making a final decision here. Keivan.f Talk 00:40, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Hi. As time goes on, the number of deaths goes up, as does the number of notable people who died from COVID19. There could be hundreds, if not thousands of people in this template in the upcoming weeks. Therefore, is it time to stop listing every single person on the template, and simply link to the parent category? Thoughts? Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 17:28, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
I see consensus for removal and removed them. Last version with the list in case someone wants to see the former list. -- mfb ( talk) 06:24, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
This is becoming a general list of important politicians in the world, and it's getting way too long. We don't need a list of every prime minister/president in every country here. Can we cut that list down to the most important people where their relevance comes from the pandemic? -- mfb ( talk) 06:15, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
I cut it down to 6 people. Three from the WHO, and the leading responsible person in the US, China and Italy (excluding elected officials whose notability comes from their job, not from the pandemic), as these three countries have the largest case counts. -- mfb ( talk) 04:45, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
I propose that the most entries in the "Institutions" section be removed. The various Centers for Disease Control, hospitals, and virology institutes listed are not specifically relevant to the pandemic. For the remaining institutions which are specifically related, it may be reasonable to reorganize them into a merged "People and organizations" section. -- Yair rand ( talk) 22:30, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Is Vietnam Eastern Asia, or Southeast Asia? In my opinion, we should classify Regions of Asia as 「 East Asia and ASEAN」, and rest of Asia. If you consider it in other ways, then please share your thought for this topic. Thanks for reading this opinion. 11:17, 22 March 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.237.125.110 ( talk)
I'm not going to keep going back and forth here, but for the record, I'd like to see the Asia subheaders removed. Alphabetical sorting for all of Asia makes finding specific locations easier, and removing the subheaders would help reduce the overall size of the template. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 04:01, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
I don't understand what part of my edit qualified as WP:OR. I was also only reverting to a previous version because the removal of these two did not have a consensus. Ping @ Gidonb:. Rethliopuks ( talk) 17:34, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
As for my African/North American subcontinent division, as I have referred to in my edit summaries, it comes from the UN geoscheme available here. Rethliopuks ( talk) 17:36, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
Isn't it in Central Asia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kittens n thugs ( talk • contribs) 00:57, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
There should be no distinction between countries in europe and the eu for two reasons. First, if you search for a european land you have to look into both lists as nobody knows if the searched country is in the eu or not. Second reason is, that the horrific construct eu will finally get destroyed by the china-virus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.209.6.128 ( talk) 07:39, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
This article seems interesting for this template. Yug (talk) 19:20, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
The interwiki for this template is gone. Now only 1 page is connected. I try to find the old item on Wikidata but no luck. Diki Ananta ● Talk 02:11, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
The list of hospitals in Wuhan is getting a little old — they're definitely not the only hospitals involved at this point. Time for a change? {{u| Sdkb}} talk 04:52, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
This template is quite large. In an attempt to reduce the template's overall size, I propose removing the subheaders for Africa (Central, East, North, South, and West), and just grouping all African locations together. We're not talking about an overwhelming number of entries, and for those who may not be very familiar with Africa's geography, I think alphabetical is better than making people search within specific regions. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 03:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
@ Rethliopuks: There is support for removing the Africa subheaders. Will you please undo your re-addition of the Africa subheaders? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 13:59, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
I've removed the subheaders, so there's now a single section for Africa. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:25, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
@ ApprenticeFan: Please undo this edit per this discussion. We don't need these subsections for the Africa section. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 14:57, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
This template sometimes does not render correctly and instead shows the following code:
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This only happens on certain pages, such as 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Italy. Neither purging the cache of the page nor using a different browser resolves this issue. Anyone know the cause? Ixfd64 ( talk) 19:38, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
I definitely think there are some sections that could be retweaked or reworked, particularly I'd say the "PEOPLE" tab, the "DATA" tab, we could definitely reduce the number of locations in the LOCATIONS tab and that could help it show up on some pages. QueerFilmNerd talk 20:20, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
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Should we include 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Antarctica? I'd add it in but I don't want to mess it up. It's not like adding in another country. Liz Read! Talk! 20:11, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
The two groups seems to have overlap and may gain to be merged in some way. Yug (talk) 20:04, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
The timeline sub-navbox looks much cleaner and matches the style of the other groups if it is it's own navbox child. Maybe something like this can be created?: