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"Royal Yugoslavia" existed for only ~23 years, and was governed by the Serbian royal family all this time. Not only does the Yugoslav throne no longer exist, but neither does Yugoslavia. While Prussia existed for hundreds of years, the Kingdom of Yugoslavia existed under that name for only 12 years and even during that time, their rule was not universally recognized. Insisting on a Yugoslav royal line defies all logic and reeks of Greater-Serbian POV.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Thewanderer ( talk • contribs) 18:26, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
House of Karađorđević is Serbian Royal house. They have been created in Serbia and today are found there. Here you can see that Alexander considered himself as Crown Prince of Serbia: Offical Website of House of Karađorđević
Kingdom of Serbia Association (English)
About Royal House on Kingdom of Serbia Association Website (Serbian)
As Peter I of Serbia (King of Serbia) became King of the Serbs, Croats and Slovenes, Alexander I of Yugoslavia from the King of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes became the King of Yugoslavia, and in the same way Alexander II Karadjordevic became Crown Prince of Serbia. As the country changed the name so they changed the name and title. If Serbia would become a monarchy, Alexander would probably come to the throne. They are not interested for other ex-Yugoslavia country. Serbia is not a monarchy, it is a fact, but Yugoslavia does not exist and it is nothing. -- Aca Srbin ( talk) 21:15, 23 January 2011 (CET)
A request for comments which may impact this template has been started at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biographies#RfC on style in royal family templates. You are welcome to comment there. Fram ( talk) 14:32, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Before I took out the entries on this template which are not linked to articles and therefore there is no way to verify them, I asked about this issues at AN [1]. The replies I got indicated that entries such as Princess Marija with no link to an article should be removed. WP:EXISTING says "Unlinked text should be avoided." Also per MOS:HONORIFIC "In general, honorific prefixes—styles and honorifics in front of a name—in Wikipedia's own voice should not be included, but may be discussed in the article." This isn't an article, honorifics should not be used in this template. I made these changes but User:Snake bgd reverted them, marking the edit as "minor" which it certainly wasn't. I am undoing the reversion. Smeat75 ( talk) 14:38, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Yugoslav royal family template. |
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![]() | Royalty and Nobility | |||
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![]() | Yugoslavia Template‑class | ||||||
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![]() | This template was considered for deletion on 2020 August 20. The result of the discussion was "no consensus". |
"Royal Yugoslavia" existed for only ~23 years, and was governed by the Serbian royal family all this time. Not only does the Yugoslav throne no longer exist, but neither does Yugoslavia. While Prussia existed for hundreds of years, the Kingdom of Yugoslavia existed under that name for only 12 years and even during that time, their rule was not universally recognized. Insisting on a Yugoslav royal line defies all logic and reeks of Greater-Serbian POV.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Thewanderer ( talk • contribs) 18:26, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
House of Karađorđević is Serbian Royal house. They have been created in Serbia and today are found there. Here you can see that Alexander considered himself as Crown Prince of Serbia: Offical Website of House of Karađorđević
Kingdom of Serbia Association (English)
About Royal House on Kingdom of Serbia Association Website (Serbian)
As Peter I of Serbia (King of Serbia) became King of the Serbs, Croats and Slovenes, Alexander I of Yugoslavia from the King of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes became the King of Yugoslavia, and in the same way Alexander II Karadjordevic became Crown Prince of Serbia. As the country changed the name so they changed the name and title. If Serbia would become a monarchy, Alexander would probably come to the throne. They are not interested for other ex-Yugoslavia country. Serbia is not a monarchy, it is a fact, but Yugoslavia does not exist and it is nothing. -- Aca Srbin ( talk) 21:15, 23 January 2011 (CET)
A request for comments which may impact this template has been started at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biographies#RfC on style in royal family templates. You are welcome to comment there. Fram ( talk) 14:32, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Before I took out the entries on this template which are not linked to articles and therefore there is no way to verify them, I asked about this issues at AN [1]. The replies I got indicated that entries such as Princess Marija with no link to an article should be removed. WP:EXISTING says "Unlinked text should be avoided." Also per MOS:HONORIFIC "In general, honorific prefixes—styles and honorifics in front of a name—in Wikipedia's own voice should not be included, but may be discussed in the article." This isn't an article, honorifics should not be used in this template. I made these changes but User:Snake bgd reverted them, marking the edit as "minor" which it certainly wasn't. I am undoing the reversion. Smeat75 ( talk) 14:38, 28 July 2020 (UTC)