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When class=Cat is aplied the following text will appear in template.
"This article has been rated as Cat-Class on the Project's quality scale. [FAQ]"
The problem is that quality scale does not provide any info about Cat-Class.-- Poa 18:31, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
I added |attention=yes on Talk:Toni Price so that it says {{WPBiography|attention=yes|musician-work-group=yes}}. Apparently, that added the page to Category:Biography articles needing attention. I expected it to be automatically added to Category:Musicians work group articles needing attention. Did I miss something, or could it be the template isn't fully working? Cheers, BNutzer 15:50, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
I recently tried (and failed) to implement a "list" parameter, so that we can specify how each article is list on the Category pages.
For an example, see [[Category:Unassessed British royalty articles]], where most of the articles are listed under 'P' , because they start Prince or Princess
If articles are categorised manually, we can tell it where to list the articles, thusly:
[[Category:Unassessed British royalty articles|Beatrice of the United Kingdom, Princess]]
I attempted to acheive this by replacing
{{PAGENAME}}
with
{{#if: {{{list|<noinclude>-</noinclude>}}} |{{{list}}} |{{PAGENAME}} }}
Firstly, what does evryone think?
Secondly, can anyone tell me what was wrong with my code? Or simply perform the edits for me? // D B D 22:25, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
I came across a page using the parameter "|musician-work-group=", but I hadn't ever run into that before. It's still working, so why isn't it listed on the main template page as an optional parameter like the others. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 17:22, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
When adding "|musician-work-group=yes" to a WPBiography tag on Talk:Thomas Anders that already contained "|a&e-work-group=yes", the result was that a&e did not show on the talk page anymore, neither did the a&e categories. It also shows on this page in #Example_2:_full: a&e is invisible, so the effect seems to occur only with a&e? Is that wanted? I have found it irritating, since it would generate some kind of competition between the two work-groups. Regards, BNutzer 12:30, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
The "Usage" section on the main page states: living: Answer yes if the subject is living; remove line if subject is dead. Shouldn't that be Answer no if subject is dead? Cheers, BNutzer 20:26, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
The Sports and games workgroup uses Image:Soccerball.jpg as its icon. That file is a JPG file and has a white background. I think that the icon should be changed to Image:Soccerball.svg, which is transparant, is smaller in file size, and is in the public domain. – Heav e n's Wrath Talk 04:45, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Have a look at Talk:William Shakespeare: The link to the peer review page doesn't work. I've tried to fix it, but, alas, failed! Vanished user talk 15:50, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
In the template, on articles which have had an archived peer review, the link is broken. On Talk:Frank S. Scott, the archival link inserts a superfluous colon before the archived page name -- thereby leading to a redlink page. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 17:31, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
{{ARTICLESPACE}}:{{PAGENAME}}
, specifically the colon in the middle which stays there even if there is no namespace. {{ARTICLESPACE}}:
could be removed but then if a portal was reviewed then the link would be broken for it. So anyone know what to do?
- Tutmosis 21:09, 28 November 2006 (UTC)How about a new "needs-photo" parameter? I'm thinking it should add Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of people (same effect as adding {{ reqphoto|people}}), or more spesific subcat(s) if one or more workgroups are set in the template ( Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of artists and entertainers for example). I've started trying to subcat the huge Category:Wikipedia requested photographs category and I've noticed a large number of these articles are biographies, so I think it would be benefitial to bake the photo request into this template, that way it can "piggyback" on the workgroup data and save some categorisation effort. -- Sherool (talk) 23:30, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
How about a new "needs-Persondata" parameter? This is step 4 of the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article.
If the article has an infobox but does not have a Persondata metadata, is there a way to have a bot create the Persondata metadata from the information in the infobox? That is what I would like for Christmas. Thank you. -- Jreferee 17:29, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Every article created on Wikipedia passes through Special:Newpages. At least half appear to be biographies. Of those not speedy deleted (which many are), most are written by first time Wikipedia users who have no clue about biographical layout. Many of these articles eventually are passed onto AfD because they editors do not know ways to Wikify them. To give better guidance to these new Wikipedia editors and to reduce the load on AfD, how about a new "needs-biographical layout" parameter (see Template:Biography or something like a "This article may benefit from editing based on these 11 steps."? -- Jreferee 16:39, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I'd STILL like to support the comment about "public relations manipulation" after coming across an absolutely terrible PR text dump in a minor politician's page. 68.39.174.238 01:39, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
Why is this template so big it's at least twice the size of the average talk page banner ( Gnevin 09:41, 18 December 2006 (UTC))
The auto parameter instructions state that "This parameter is for the use of bots. It calls the {{stubclass template}}." However, there is no indication on how to make an entry for this parameter. Do you enter "yes" to call the bot or is the parameter for use by the bot? -- Jreferee 15:56, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
The instructions state This parameter is used for bios whose title is in the first part of the article, i.e. Prince George of England, you can instead have listas=George of England, Prince -- so that it will show up in the G's... Where does the article show up in the G's? Will the article show up in the G's for every category listed at the bottom of the article without the need to added a piped extension to the category such as Category:kings|George of England, Prince? -- Jreferee 16:48, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I have noticed that lately most articles (their talk pages, to be precise) are listed in categories as if they were starting with "T" (due to being "T"alk pages?), see e.g. Category:Start-Class_biography_articles. I doubt that is a wanted effect, is it? Cheers, BNutzer 15:35, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
The class parameter states that Descriptions of the options can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Assessment#Quality scale. However, Dab, Template, and Cat are not on that Quality scale. The description may need to be updated to explain what Dab, Template, and Cat are. -- Jreferee 17:15, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Something appears to be screwy with the formatting. I just added this to the Ashley Eicher talk page, and now this appears in the center box:
This article is supported by the Arts and Entertainment work group.[[Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of artists and entertainers|]]
Anyone know how to fix this? Valrith 23:07, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
{{editprotected}} In the coding, there is currently this bit regarding infoboxes:
An appropriate infobox needs to be added to this article, or the current infobox needs to be updated. Please refer to the list of biography infoboxes for further information.
Can this please be tweaked to replace both instances of "needs" with "may need". This is to avoid prejudicing the discussion that should take place at each article on whether an infobox is appropriate or not, rather than implying that there is a rigid rule that every biographical article must have an infobox. Thanks. Carcharoth 18:00, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Since some people might be appropriate for more than one group and of differing priorities for those groups, it would be convenient to be able to do something like:
{{WPBiography|class=Start|a&e-work-group=Mid|sports-work-group=Low|living=yes}}
instead of having to clutter up talk pages with two separate templates. Caerwine Caer’s whines 00:27, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Would it be possible for this to calculate whether to use {{ reqphoto}} or {{ reqfreephoto}} dependent on whether the "living" variable says "no" or "yes" respectively? I've utilized the "needs-photo" parameter on living people before, only to have {{ rfu}} images uploaded in an effort to comply with the request. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 18:37, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
The present instructions state: "living: Answer yes if the subject is living; remove line if subject is dead." The omission of the living parameter line also could mean that the living/dead status has not been assessed. Given the importance of WP:BLP and a need to prevent duplicate efforts, instead of removing the line of the subject is dead, I believe that the Answer no should be inserted and that the template instructions be revised to say this. Please change the instructions if there is a concensus. -- Jreferee 22:21, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I've noticed that the template behaves incorrectly when both the needs-photo and military-work-group parameters are true. Instead of adding the relevant page to Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of military-people, it adds the text "[[Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of military-people]]" to the WPBiography template. This might also happen with other work groups, but I haven't checked.
For an example, see Talk:Charles Burnett (RAF officer).
It's probably a fairly minor fix, but given that the template is protected I'll leave it to someone else to do.
Xdamr talk 13:31, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Maybe I'm missing something but can't listas= be removed in favour of the DEFAULTSORT keyword? I'm not liking this listas parameter as it's adding a lot of code bloat for very little return. -- kingboyk 12:06, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
OK, now we've got the listas parameter back in a more sensible form, I've added some code to my plugin to add a listas= param when one isn't already present. One slight problem is that musical groups will get "incorrect" results. Since from what I can see the only real purpose of the param is to bring some order to the unassessed articles category, I think this downside is outweighed by the advantages.
However if folks don't agree, the alternative (besides turning this code off) is to not apply a listas automatically for articles which are tagged with musician-workgroup=yes. Of course, there's no guarantee that all musician articles are actually tagged with this parameter.
I'll release the code as is but any objections can be made here on my plugin's talk page. -- kingboyk 20:24, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
(partial repost from above)
How about a new "needs-Persondata" parameter? This is step 4 of the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. If the article has an infobox but does not have a Persondata metadata, is there a way to have a bot create and locate the Persondata metadata from the information in the infobox? -- Jreferee 19:33, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Every article created on Wikipedia passes through Special:Newpages. At least half appear to be biographies. Of those not speedy deleted (which many are), most are written by first time Wikipedia users who have no clue about biographical layout. Many of these articles eventually are passed onto AfD because they editors do not know ways to Wikify them. To give better guidance to these new Wikipedia editors and to reduce the load on AfD, how about a new "needs-biographical layout" parameter (see Template:Biography or something like a "This article may benefit from editing based on these 11 steps."? Alternatively, perhaps the bot can create a new thread, such as I did for Talk:Yuichi_Komano, Talk:Yuji_Hamano, and other articles. -- Jreferee
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When class=Cat is aplied the following text will appear in template.
"This article has been rated as Cat-Class on the Project's quality scale. [FAQ]"
The problem is that quality scale does not provide any info about Cat-Class.-- Poa 18:31, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
I added |attention=yes on Talk:Toni Price so that it says {{WPBiography|attention=yes|musician-work-group=yes}}. Apparently, that added the page to Category:Biography articles needing attention. I expected it to be automatically added to Category:Musicians work group articles needing attention. Did I miss something, or could it be the template isn't fully working? Cheers, BNutzer 15:50, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
I recently tried (and failed) to implement a "list" parameter, so that we can specify how each article is list on the Category pages.
For an example, see [[Category:Unassessed British royalty articles]], where most of the articles are listed under 'P' , because they start Prince or Princess
If articles are categorised manually, we can tell it where to list the articles, thusly:
[[Category:Unassessed British royalty articles|Beatrice of the United Kingdom, Princess]]
I attempted to acheive this by replacing
{{PAGENAME}}
with
{{#if: {{{list|<noinclude>-</noinclude>}}} |{{{list}}} |{{PAGENAME}} }}
Firstly, what does evryone think?
Secondly, can anyone tell me what was wrong with my code? Or simply perform the edits for me? // D B D 22:25, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
I came across a page using the parameter "|musician-work-group=", but I hadn't ever run into that before. It's still working, so why isn't it listed on the main template page as an optional parameter like the others. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 17:22, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
When adding "|musician-work-group=yes" to a WPBiography tag on Talk:Thomas Anders that already contained "|a&e-work-group=yes", the result was that a&e did not show on the talk page anymore, neither did the a&e categories. It also shows on this page in #Example_2:_full: a&e is invisible, so the effect seems to occur only with a&e? Is that wanted? I have found it irritating, since it would generate some kind of competition between the two work-groups. Regards, BNutzer 12:30, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
The "Usage" section on the main page states: living: Answer yes if the subject is living; remove line if subject is dead. Shouldn't that be Answer no if subject is dead? Cheers, BNutzer 20:26, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
The Sports and games workgroup uses Image:Soccerball.jpg as its icon. That file is a JPG file and has a white background. I think that the icon should be changed to Image:Soccerball.svg, which is transparant, is smaller in file size, and is in the public domain. – Heav e n's Wrath Talk 04:45, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Have a look at Talk:William Shakespeare: The link to the peer review page doesn't work. I've tried to fix it, but, alas, failed! Vanished user talk 15:50, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
In the template, on articles which have had an archived peer review, the link is broken. On Talk:Frank S. Scott, the archival link inserts a superfluous colon before the archived page name -- thereby leading to a redlink page. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 17:31, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
{{ARTICLESPACE}}:{{PAGENAME}}
, specifically the colon in the middle which stays there even if there is no namespace. {{ARTICLESPACE}}:
could be removed but then if a portal was reviewed then the link would be broken for it. So anyone know what to do?
- Tutmosis 21:09, 28 November 2006 (UTC)How about a new "needs-photo" parameter? I'm thinking it should add Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of people (same effect as adding {{ reqphoto|people}}), or more spesific subcat(s) if one or more workgroups are set in the template ( Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of artists and entertainers for example). I've started trying to subcat the huge Category:Wikipedia requested photographs category and I've noticed a large number of these articles are biographies, so I think it would be benefitial to bake the photo request into this template, that way it can "piggyback" on the workgroup data and save some categorisation effort. -- Sherool (talk) 23:30, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
How about a new "needs-Persondata" parameter? This is step 4 of the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article.
If the article has an infobox but does not have a Persondata metadata, is there a way to have a bot create the Persondata metadata from the information in the infobox? That is what I would like for Christmas. Thank you. -- Jreferee 17:29, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Every article created on Wikipedia passes through Special:Newpages. At least half appear to be biographies. Of those not speedy deleted (which many are), most are written by first time Wikipedia users who have no clue about biographical layout. Many of these articles eventually are passed onto AfD because they editors do not know ways to Wikify them. To give better guidance to these new Wikipedia editors and to reduce the load on AfD, how about a new "needs-biographical layout" parameter (see Template:Biography or something like a "This article may benefit from editing based on these 11 steps."? -- Jreferee 16:39, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I'd STILL like to support the comment about "public relations manipulation" after coming across an absolutely terrible PR text dump in a minor politician's page. 68.39.174.238 01:39, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
Why is this template so big it's at least twice the size of the average talk page banner ( Gnevin 09:41, 18 December 2006 (UTC))
The auto parameter instructions state that "This parameter is for the use of bots. It calls the {{stubclass template}}." However, there is no indication on how to make an entry for this parameter. Do you enter "yes" to call the bot or is the parameter for use by the bot? -- Jreferee 15:56, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
The instructions state This parameter is used for bios whose title is in the first part of the article, i.e. Prince George of England, you can instead have listas=George of England, Prince -- so that it will show up in the G's... Where does the article show up in the G's? Will the article show up in the G's for every category listed at the bottom of the article without the need to added a piped extension to the category such as Category:kings|George of England, Prince? -- Jreferee 16:48, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I have noticed that lately most articles (their talk pages, to be precise) are listed in categories as if they were starting with "T" (due to being "T"alk pages?), see e.g. Category:Start-Class_biography_articles. I doubt that is a wanted effect, is it? Cheers, BNutzer 15:35, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
The class parameter states that Descriptions of the options can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Assessment#Quality scale. However, Dab, Template, and Cat are not on that Quality scale. The description may need to be updated to explain what Dab, Template, and Cat are. -- Jreferee 17:15, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Something appears to be screwy with the formatting. I just added this to the Ashley Eicher talk page, and now this appears in the center box:
This article is supported by the Arts and Entertainment work group.[[Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of artists and entertainers|]]
Anyone know how to fix this? Valrith 23:07, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
{{editprotected}} In the coding, there is currently this bit regarding infoboxes:
An appropriate infobox needs to be added to this article, or the current infobox needs to be updated. Please refer to the list of biography infoboxes for further information.
Can this please be tweaked to replace both instances of "needs" with "may need". This is to avoid prejudicing the discussion that should take place at each article on whether an infobox is appropriate or not, rather than implying that there is a rigid rule that every biographical article must have an infobox. Thanks. Carcharoth 18:00, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Since some people might be appropriate for more than one group and of differing priorities for those groups, it would be convenient to be able to do something like:
{{WPBiography|class=Start|a&e-work-group=Mid|sports-work-group=Low|living=yes}}
instead of having to clutter up talk pages with two separate templates. Caerwine Caer’s whines 00:27, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Would it be possible for this to calculate whether to use {{ reqphoto}} or {{ reqfreephoto}} dependent on whether the "living" variable says "no" or "yes" respectively? I've utilized the "needs-photo" parameter on living people before, only to have {{ rfu}} images uploaded in an effort to comply with the request. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 18:37, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
The present instructions state: "living: Answer yes if the subject is living; remove line if subject is dead." The omission of the living parameter line also could mean that the living/dead status has not been assessed. Given the importance of WP:BLP and a need to prevent duplicate efforts, instead of removing the line of the subject is dead, I believe that the Answer no should be inserted and that the template instructions be revised to say this. Please change the instructions if there is a concensus. -- Jreferee 22:21, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I've noticed that the template behaves incorrectly when both the needs-photo and military-work-group parameters are true. Instead of adding the relevant page to Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of military-people, it adds the text "[[Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of military-people]]" to the WPBiography template. This might also happen with other work groups, but I haven't checked.
For an example, see Talk:Charles Burnett (RAF officer).
It's probably a fairly minor fix, but given that the template is protected I'll leave it to someone else to do.
Xdamr talk 13:31, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Maybe I'm missing something but can't listas= be removed in favour of the DEFAULTSORT keyword? I'm not liking this listas parameter as it's adding a lot of code bloat for very little return. -- kingboyk 12:06, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
OK, now we've got the listas parameter back in a more sensible form, I've added some code to my plugin to add a listas= param when one isn't already present. One slight problem is that musical groups will get "incorrect" results. Since from what I can see the only real purpose of the param is to bring some order to the unassessed articles category, I think this downside is outweighed by the advantages.
However if folks don't agree, the alternative (besides turning this code off) is to not apply a listas automatically for articles which are tagged with musician-workgroup=yes. Of course, there's no guarantee that all musician articles are actually tagged with this parameter.
I'll release the code as is but any objections can be made here on my plugin's talk page. -- kingboyk 20:24, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
(partial repost from above)
How about a new "needs-Persondata" parameter? This is step 4 of the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. If the article has an infobox but does not have a Persondata metadata, is there a way to have a bot create and locate the Persondata metadata from the information in the infobox? -- Jreferee 19:33, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Every article created on Wikipedia passes through Special:Newpages. At least half appear to be biographies. Of those not speedy deleted (which many are), most are written by first time Wikipedia users who have no clue about biographical layout. Many of these articles eventually are passed onto AfD because they editors do not know ways to Wikify them. To give better guidance to these new Wikipedia editors and to reduce the load on AfD, how about a new "needs-biographical layout" parameter (see Template:Biography or something like a "This article may benefit from editing based on these 11 steps."? Alternatively, perhaps the bot can create a new thread, such as I did for Talk:Yuichi_Komano, Talk:Yuji_Hamano, and other articles. -- Jreferee