The talkpage link [[User talk:{{{1|{{<includeonly>safesubst:</includeonly>REVISIONUSER}}}}}|my talk page]]
is not working ie.
User_talk:Carolinejones_candi, if someone could fix it, thanx,
Mlpearc (
open channel)
17:24, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
|1=
which forced it to omit your name instead of using the default REVISIONUSER (which would have put your name in). I can make a workaround in the template, but this is something that should really just be fixed in the script. Let me know which script, and I'll see if I can get it fixed there.— {{U| Technical 13}} ( e • t • c) 18:45, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
I think there needs to be an additional statement about WP:PAID, and how such a disclosure should be made if it applies to the user. -- Drm310 ( talk) 01:18, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
I would like to make a suggestion for additional wording in this welcome template, based on my experience as an AFC reviewer. A large number of AFC drafts submitted from user sandboxes are COI drafts, and are very often by editors whose only reason for coming to Wikipedia in the first place is to publicize something, themselves, their company, their band, etc., possibly because of a misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is, or possibly because they in good faith think that their band or their company is notable, when it is not. Since they have submitted the draft (in the cases that I see) in draft space, it never gets accepted. What I would like to see added is wording that encourages such an editor to contribute to Wikipedia by editing other articles and to learn about Wikipedia by editing it. I hope that this encouragement isn't considered too utopian in hoping that editors who started off with a self-seeking agenda may become constructive editors. In practice, they typically try for a while to improve a draft that will never pass notability, and then become discouraged and go away. Can we encourage them to stay as general editors rather than as single-purpose accounts? Robert McClenon ( talk) 22:05, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Since relisting, rough consensus not to move. Consider a template merge and a coordinated Twinkle update to reflect a suggested other course of action, or since it appears that there's no strong opposition to repurpose these templates into user warning templates, that would require a different move at another time. ( non-admin closure) — Andy W. ( talk · ctb) 01:44, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
– I believe this should be done because, in the Template:Welcome-COI's current form, it seems to imply that the editor is or seems to be a paid editor. Template:Welcome-COI-acc seems to apply moreso to the general COI people, those who don't edit to get paid, but rather edit just because they feel such-and-such should have a page (ex. their grandfather; the company they work for when they're not getting paid to edit it, etc.). This way, we would have two templates, one for obvious paid editors and one for those who aren't or don't seem to be. It appears nicer and less bitey to new users when we don't seem to imply something they're not. -- Gestrid ( talk) 04:11, 12 September 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. — Sam Sailor 12:29, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
Regarding "If the page you created has already been deleted from Wikipedia, but you want to save the content from it to use for that draft, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page.", wouldn't it be better to direct them to undeletion? They would get a faster response. Something like "If the page you created has already been deleted from Wikipedia, but you want to save the content from it to use for that draft, don't hesitate to make a request and it will be copied to your user page.". Jumpytoo Talk 02:31, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
It seems that this template could also be helpful to new users who might have a COI but have yet to actually edit. There are sometimes questions at the Teahouse or Help Desk where new users ask whether they can edit an article about a subject they've clearly got a conflict of interest with. Many times these people are asking questions about articles someone else has created about them. Is there any way a parameter like the |newuser=
one for {{
Welcome-t}} could be added to this template so that the first sentence the template is changed to something more appropriate? Perhaps instead of "I noticed that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest." it could read as "I noticed that you have expressed interest in editing an article dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest." or something along those lines. --
Marchjuly (
talk)
11:40, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
The talkpage link [[User talk:{{{1|{{<includeonly>safesubst:</includeonly>REVISIONUSER}}}}}|my talk page]]
is not working ie.
User_talk:Carolinejones_candi, if someone could fix it, thanx,
Mlpearc (
open channel)
17:24, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
|1=
which forced it to omit your name instead of using the default REVISIONUSER (which would have put your name in). I can make a workaround in the template, but this is something that should really just be fixed in the script. Let me know which script, and I'll see if I can get it fixed there.— {{U| Technical 13}} ( e • t • c) 18:45, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
I think there needs to be an additional statement about WP:PAID, and how such a disclosure should be made if it applies to the user. -- Drm310 ( talk) 01:18, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
I would like to make a suggestion for additional wording in this welcome template, based on my experience as an AFC reviewer. A large number of AFC drafts submitted from user sandboxes are COI drafts, and are very often by editors whose only reason for coming to Wikipedia in the first place is to publicize something, themselves, their company, their band, etc., possibly because of a misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is, or possibly because they in good faith think that their band or their company is notable, when it is not. Since they have submitted the draft (in the cases that I see) in draft space, it never gets accepted. What I would like to see added is wording that encourages such an editor to contribute to Wikipedia by editing other articles and to learn about Wikipedia by editing it. I hope that this encouragement isn't considered too utopian in hoping that editors who started off with a self-seeking agenda may become constructive editors. In practice, they typically try for a while to improve a draft that will never pass notability, and then become discouraged and go away. Can we encourage them to stay as general editors rather than as single-purpose accounts? Robert McClenon ( talk) 22:05, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Since relisting, rough consensus not to move. Consider a template merge and a coordinated Twinkle update to reflect a suggested other course of action, or since it appears that there's no strong opposition to repurpose these templates into user warning templates, that would require a different move at another time. ( non-admin closure) — Andy W. ( talk · ctb) 01:44, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
– I believe this should be done because, in the Template:Welcome-COI's current form, it seems to imply that the editor is or seems to be a paid editor. Template:Welcome-COI-acc seems to apply moreso to the general COI people, those who don't edit to get paid, but rather edit just because they feel such-and-such should have a page (ex. their grandfather; the company they work for when they're not getting paid to edit it, etc.). This way, we would have two templates, one for obvious paid editors and one for those who aren't or don't seem to be. It appears nicer and less bitey to new users when we don't seem to imply something they're not. -- Gestrid ( talk) 04:11, 12 September 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. — Sam Sailor 12:29, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
Regarding "If the page you created has already been deleted from Wikipedia, but you want to save the content from it to use for that draft, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page.", wouldn't it be better to direct them to undeletion? They would get a faster response. Something like "If the page you created has already been deleted from Wikipedia, but you want to save the content from it to use for that draft, don't hesitate to make a request and it will be copied to your user page.". Jumpytoo Talk 02:31, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
It seems that this template could also be helpful to new users who might have a COI but have yet to actually edit. There are sometimes questions at the Teahouse or Help Desk where new users ask whether they can edit an article about a subject they've clearly got a conflict of interest with. Many times these people are asking questions about articles someone else has created about them. Is there any way a parameter like the |newuser=
one for {{
Welcome-t}} could be added to this template so that the first sentence the template is changed to something more appropriate? Perhaps instead of "I noticed that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest." it could read as "I noticed that you have expressed interest in editing an article dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest." or something along those lines. --
Marchjuly (
talk)
11:40, 20 June 2024 (UTC)