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Hmm. When it's hyphenated I suppose. e.g. Dunbar-Southlands, which is two very different neighbourhoods but lumped together here as an "official" city neighbourhood; didn't check for "Alma" but it should be there....hmmm Mosquito Flats the city's marketing department got rid of a long time ago. I'll have to look at the list a little closer; but I do have my reservations about following city neighbourhood boundaries, which are bureaucratic creations which, as in Dunbar-Southlands, tie together two very different districts; I wouldn't consider someone living south of 41st, or 45th anyway, as being part of "Dunbar"; more like Southwest Marine Drive; and Southlands is ONLY the flat area south of the golf courses. Is Musqueam listed, btw? Skookum1 06:56, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
I'd like to contest the inclusion of South Main as an area on the VancouverNeighbourhoods template. Speaking as someone who actually lives in the neighbourhood, I can tell you that no one refers to it with that name - it is only a marketing gimmick, and as such does not deserve recoginition in this template. The irony is, it's not even in the south of Main area, it's more like middle Main, but that's besides the point... it is a name recently created by entrepreneurs, and perhaps deserves an article (that is questionable) but definitely not official recognition. Themindset 05:00, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
I removed that and have my doubts about its validity at all; nobody except Korean promoters use that term, and if ever at all it's used to mean the North & Lougheed area, which is Coquitlam/Burnaby, or other areas in the 'burbs". How this article got written when Robsonstrasse doesn't have an article yet is a sign of the ethnic supplantation and "synthetic culture" in the city's history/culture/identity. I can't see calling Koreatown a neighbourhood; it's a promotional concept.
I moved the Stanley Park link to the downtown peninsula section, where it should have been from the start; but IIRC even in the city's own reckoning the Stanley Park Neigbhourhood (Denman to Lost Lagoon/Ceperly Park) is a bona fide neighbourhood; "Robson" is how most people who live alongside or adjacent to Robstonstrasse would described their neighbourhood - maybe - but given Davie Village it's not like that's the only neighbouhood in the West End; Denman is its own neighbourhood also, but I suppose could ber included in a Stanley Park Neighbourhood article.....Victory Square I moved to the main downtown peninsula area - the isthmus is Carrall Street, which also happens to be the E-W 000 block; even in city reckonings the DTE starts at Cambie, not Homer or Richards; I lived in the 300 Block West Hastings and we never considered it DTE, nor do DTE'ers; and the merchants in that area would be mortified to be put into the DTE; so moved accordingly. Skookum1 ( talk) 13:47, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
I was the person who set up the new format. I am sorry if I stepped on your toes. If you do not like it you have my support to reformat it. The reason I set it up like this, is that the old list was mixing all kinds of locations, ie neighborhoods, streets, locations, parks, together. This is frustrating for me, as I live here, but also made it really difficult to know where things are. I hope my changes were an improvement.
I tried to make the downtown and downtown eastside neighborhoods correspond to the city' own list. I put Victory Square in the downtown eastside only because the city's map: http://www.city.vancouver.bc.ca/commsvcs/planning/dtes/neighbourhoods.htm or http://z.about.com/d/gocanada/1/0/P/5/-/-/downtown_Eastside_Van.gif does this. I have no personal stake in it, but I suppose that wikipedia should follow the city's list.
I agree that koreatown is not a neighborhood, I just didn't want to remove any items from the list until the new format was accepted. Stanley park also makes sense to put in the downtown peninsula, although I have doubts that neighborhood is the correct term.
I didn't know how to list other locations and streets, that are sub sections of the neighborhoods.
Anyway. University endowment lands are not in the city of vancouver, but since most people don't know that it might make sense to leave it there.
209.121.155.196 ( talk) 01:56, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Looking at other major canadian cities, it seems like the template invoves some sort of "financial district/downtown" amalgamation.....why don't we have one? anyways, i will add downtown vancouver to the template, so feel free to discuss this with me. thanks. Kasperone ( talk) 04:54, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
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Hmm. When it's hyphenated I suppose. e.g. Dunbar-Southlands, which is two very different neighbourhoods but lumped together here as an "official" city neighbourhood; didn't check for "Alma" but it should be there....hmmm Mosquito Flats the city's marketing department got rid of a long time ago. I'll have to look at the list a little closer; but I do have my reservations about following city neighbourhood boundaries, which are bureaucratic creations which, as in Dunbar-Southlands, tie together two very different districts; I wouldn't consider someone living south of 41st, or 45th anyway, as being part of "Dunbar"; more like Southwest Marine Drive; and Southlands is ONLY the flat area south of the golf courses. Is Musqueam listed, btw? Skookum1 06:56, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
I'd like to contest the inclusion of South Main as an area on the VancouverNeighbourhoods template. Speaking as someone who actually lives in the neighbourhood, I can tell you that no one refers to it with that name - it is only a marketing gimmick, and as such does not deserve recoginition in this template. The irony is, it's not even in the south of Main area, it's more like middle Main, but that's besides the point... it is a name recently created by entrepreneurs, and perhaps deserves an article (that is questionable) but definitely not official recognition. Themindset 05:00, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
I removed that and have my doubts about its validity at all; nobody except Korean promoters use that term, and if ever at all it's used to mean the North & Lougheed area, which is Coquitlam/Burnaby, or other areas in the 'burbs". How this article got written when Robsonstrasse doesn't have an article yet is a sign of the ethnic supplantation and "synthetic culture" in the city's history/culture/identity. I can't see calling Koreatown a neighbourhood; it's a promotional concept.
I moved the Stanley Park link to the downtown peninsula section, where it should have been from the start; but IIRC even in the city's own reckoning the Stanley Park Neigbhourhood (Denman to Lost Lagoon/Ceperly Park) is a bona fide neighbourhood; "Robson" is how most people who live alongside or adjacent to Robstonstrasse would described their neighbourhood - maybe - but given Davie Village it's not like that's the only neighbouhood in the West End; Denman is its own neighbourhood also, but I suppose could ber included in a Stanley Park Neighbourhood article.....Victory Square I moved to the main downtown peninsula area - the isthmus is Carrall Street, which also happens to be the E-W 000 block; even in city reckonings the DTE starts at Cambie, not Homer or Richards; I lived in the 300 Block West Hastings and we never considered it DTE, nor do DTE'ers; and the merchants in that area would be mortified to be put into the DTE; so moved accordingly. Skookum1 ( talk) 13:47, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
I was the person who set up the new format. I am sorry if I stepped on your toes. If you do not like it you have my support to reformat it. The reason I set it up like this, is that the old list was mixing all kinds of locations, ie neighborhoods, streets, locations, parks, together. This is frustrating for me, as I live here, but also made it really difficult to know where things are. I hope my changes were an improvement.
I tried to make the downtown and downtown eastside neighborhoods correspond to the city' own list. I put Victory Square in the downtown eastside only because the city's map: http://www.city.vancouver.bc.ca/commsvcs/planning/dtes/neighbourhoods.htm or http://z.about.com/d/gocanada/1/0/P/5/-/-/downtown_Eastside_Van.gif does this. I have no personal stake in it, but I suppose that wikipedia should follow the city's list.
I agree that koreatown is not a neighborhood, I just didn't want to remove any items from the list until the new format was accepted. Stanley park also makes sense to put in the downtown peninsula, although I have doubts that neighborhood is the correct term.
I didn't know how to list other locations and streets, that are sub sections of the neighborhoods.
Anyway. University endowment lands are not in the city of vancouver, but since most people don't know that it might make sense to leave it there.
209.121.155.196 ( talk) 01:56, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Looking at other major canadian cities, it seems like the template invoves some sort of "financial district/downtown" amalgamation.....why don't we have one? anyways, i will add downtown vancouver to the template, so feel free to discuss this with me. thanks. Kasperone ( talk) 04:54, 25 February 2009 (UTC)