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New Jersey was constituted as a single at-large district for periods of time in the early to mid 1800s. What is the best way to use this template to show that multiple members preceded, succeeded and served alongside a particular member. See Charles C. Stratton for my attempts to address this. Stratton also has another twist, in that after his final term in the House, New Jersey switched over to separate districts. How would his successors be shown? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Alansohn 16:39, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
The present design of USRepSuccessionBox is unnecessarily wide, and contains many more words than are needed. The notes above call it "bulky" and "clunky," so let's fix it. It seems to me the box is really unnecessary, but if there must be one please consider having it simplified, perhaps more like what's below. stilltim 01:41, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
It's much better to have United States in the title than U.S. It makes it look more official. I personally like it. American Patriot 1776 14:01, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Oppose
Someone just took this box off Sue Kelly [1] to make it look cleaner. I think it looks better, but the links are less than ideal. The current layout, with single words hanging on their own line, is not good either. Anyone have ideas for improvement? Night Gyr ( talk/ Oy) 01:27, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
In the US, I'm pretty sure we call them simply Representatives, and not Members of the House of Representatives, so it would make sense to shorten it up that way. Night Gyr ( talk/ Oy) 01:29, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
We don't need to include "district_ord" as a parameter. I had used it in early versions of this template, but I have since constructed this template such that it is now superfluous. It's not harmful, but you don't need to include it any more.— Markles 11:34, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
United States Congressional Delegations from X state |
List of United States Representatives from X state |
Comments |
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Alabama | Alabama | Unique |
Alaska | Alaska | Complete |
Arizona | Arizona | Complete |
Arkansas | Arkansas | List article contains 4 people |
California | California | List article has unique content |
Colorado | Colorado | List article has unique content |
Connecticut | Connecticut | List article contains 5 people |
Delaware | Delaware | List article has unique content |
Florida | Florida | List article redirects to Delegations article |
Georgia | Georgia | List article contains 13 people |
Hawaii | Hawaii | Complete |
Idaho | Idaho | List article contains 2 people |
Illinois | Illinois | List article contains 19 people |
Indiana | Indiana | List article contains 9 people |
Iowa | Iowa | List article contains 5 people |
Kansas | Kansas | List article contains 4 people |
Kentucky | Kentucky | List article contains 6 people |
Louisiana | Louisiana | List article contain 7 people |
Maine | Maine | List article contains 2 people |
Maryland | Maryland | List article contains 8 people |
Massachusetts | Massachusetts | Complete |
Michigan | Michigan | List article contains subset of content in Delegations article |
Minnesota | Minnesota | List article contains 24 people |
Mississippi | Mississippi | List article contains subset of content in Delegations article |
Missouri | Missouri | List contains 8 people |
Montana | Montana | List article contains 1 person |
Nebraska | Nebraska | List article contains subset of content in Delegations article |
Nevada | Nevada | List contains 3 people |
New Hampshire | New Hampshire | List contains 2 people |
New Jersey | New Jersey | List article contains subset of content in Delegations article |
New Mexico | New Mexico | List contains 3 people |
New York | New York | Complete |
North Carolina | North Carolina | List article contains subset of content in Delegations article |
North Dakota | North Dakota | List article contains subset of content in Delegations article |
Ohio | Ohio | List article contains subset of content in Delegations article |
Oklahoma | Oklahoma | List contains 5 people |
Oregon | Oregon | List contains ALL people |
Pennsylvania | Pennsylvania | List contains ALL people |
Rhode Island | Rhode Island | List contains all people |
South Carolina | South Carolina | List contains 6 people |
South Dakota | South Dakota | List article contains subset of content in Delegations article |
Tennessee | Tennessee | List contains 9 people |
Texas | Texas | List contains 32 people |
Utah | Utah | List article contains subset of content in Delegations article |
Vermont | Vermont | List contains 4 people |
Virginia | Virginia | List contains 10 people |
Washington | Washington | List contains 9 people |
West Virginia | West Virginia | List contains 3 people |
Wisconsin | Wisconsin | List contains 8 people |
Wyoming | Wyoming | List article redirects to Delegations article |
American Samoa | American Samoa | List article redirects to Delegations article |
District of Columbia | District of Columbia | List article redirects to Delegations article |
Guam | Guam | List article redirects to Delegations article |
Puerto Rico | Puerto Rico | List article redirects to Delegations article |
After User:Markles reverted my change to which articles the Template links to, I thought I should look at all of the states (where previously I had concentrated on my own). As the chart above shows, in all but two cases (MA & DE), the much more robust and complete article is the "Delegations" article. In many cases, the "List" article has only the current delegation, a very small number of historical representatives, or virtually no additional information about the people. In EVERY case, the "Delegations" articles are complete and up-to-date. They link to the reps' individual articles, denote party, list ordinal congress', list years of service, list district, and show graphically who they served along-side. They also show the con-current Senate delegations. I propose that the Template:USRepSuccessionBox link to the "Delegations" articles until such time as the "List" articles compete with respect to standardization, completeness, and substantial unique information. -- Appraiser 15:34, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
The biggest change about this, however, is that omitting all of the above features, and the before and after parameters will isolate the title box; or, including only the "before-box" will omit the end box, and vice versa. See James Madison, again! :p Another use of this is if you have a before and after box that are each two rows and need to squeeze one box inbetween. Cheers!! Foofighter20x ( talk) 23:01, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
In a speedy delete request for a template that redirected here ({{ USRep succession box}}, the author of the request stated, "All uses of this redirection have been migrated to target Template:USRepSuccessionBox in preparation for conversion to s-bef/s-ttl/s-aft style." What conversion is planned?— Markles 22:31, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
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Could somebody fix this template such that the date range is not spaced? According to the WP:MOS, this isn't necessary when the end date is "present", such as at Paul Ryan#External links. Thanks. – CWenger ( talk) 01:46, 12 April 2011 (UTC) CWenger ( talk) 01:46, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
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Hi again. I stumbled upon Template:Str find, which I think that would make this request possible. Do you know how to do this? Unfortunately since the page is under full protection I can't test any solutions...it's too bad you aren't allowed to preview changes without saving them on protected pages. I also tried copying the content to my user subpages to mess with at User:CWenger/USRepSuccessionBox, but I can't figure out how to get the examples to use that instead of the main Template page. – CWenger ( ^ • @) 19:35, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
{{#ifexpr: {{Str find|{{{start}}}| }} >= 0 | |}}
on both sides of the en dash in the years tag. I don't know what kind of performance impact this will have. How can we determine that? –
CWenger (
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00:58, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
years= 1979 – 1999
(with spaces) but when the template is actually invoked it is years= 1979–1999
(without spaces). Could you make those consistent? In all cases the bottom version is correct. Thanks. –
CWenger (
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@)
19:15, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
There is a problem with the USRepSuccessionBox template for Territory of Hawaii on the William Paul Jarrett article. "Delegate to the U.S. House of Representatives" works correctly, but "from Territory of Hawaii" shows the Territory of Hawaii as a red link. Peaceray ( talk) 20:01, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Should the template {{s-prec|usa}} be included in the USRepSuccessionBox? The template can be used to add a seniority box at the bottom of the USRepSuccessionBox, such that the ceremonial seniority of a US congressperson is shown flanked by a "preceded by" person and a "succeeded by" person. Such an addition can be seen in this recent edit to the biography of Representative Barbara Lee. See Template:S-prec#With_parameter for context. Binksternet ( talk) 00:17, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
An RfC has been opened at Template talk:Succession box#RfC. The RfC debates the usage of this template especially, and I think that the participation of users who work with this template would be helpful. Kraxler ( talk) 13:14, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
At present, if one writes "after=vacant" there appears in the box the saying "Succeeded by vacant". Is it possible to add a parameter like "vacant=after" to show a simple "Vacant" in the field of the successor? For comparison: omitting the after parameter in incumbent boxes shows just "Incumbent" without "Succeded by". Kraxler ( talk) 14:08, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
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Change "List of United States Representatives" to "List of United States representatives" to bypass the redirect. Woko Sapien ( talk) 14:41, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
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On the first line of this template
{{#if:{{{new|}}}|{{s-new|rows={{{startrows}}}|{{{new}}}}}|{{#if:{{{before|}}}|{{s-bef|before= {{{before}}}}}|}}}}
change {{{startrows}}}
to {{{startrows|1}}}
Viewing the html generated by Abner_Hazeltine, there is some html text of the form
rowspan="{{{startrows}}}"
The above change would generate correct html
I have come across at least 15 pages that have this issue. Desb42 ( talk) 07:29, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
United States: Government Template‑class | ||||||||||
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U.S. Congress Template‑class Mid‑importance | |||||||||||||
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New Jersey was constituted as a single at-large district for periods of time in the early to mid 1800s. What is the best way to use this template to show that multiple members preceded, succeeded and served alongside a particular member. See Charles C. Stratton for my attempts to address this. Stratton also has another twist, in that after his final term in the House, New Jersey switched over to separate districts. How would his successors be shown? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Alansohn 16:39, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
The present design of USRepSuccessionBox is unnecessarily wide, and contains many more words than are needed. The notes above call it "bulky" and "clunky," so let's fix it. It seems to me the box is really unnecessary, but if there must be one please consider having it simplified, perhaps more like what's below. stilltim 01:41, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
It's much better to have United States in the title than U.S. It makes it look more official. I personally like it. American Patriot 1776 14:01, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Oppose
Someone just took this box off Sue Kelly [1] to make it look cleaner. I think it looks better, but the links are less than ideal. The current layout, with single words hanging on their own line, is not good either. Anyone have ideas for improvement? Night Gyr ( talk/ Oy) 01:27, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
In the US, I'm pretty sure we call them simply Representatives, and not Members of the House of Representatives, so it would make sense to shorten it up that way. Night Gyr ( talk/ Oy) 01:29, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
We don't need to include "district_ord" as a parameter. I had used it in early versions of this template, but I have since constructed this template such that it is now superfluous. It's not harmful, but you don't need to include it any more.— Markles 11:34, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
United States Congressional Delegations from X state |
List of United States Representatives from X state |
Comments |
---|---|---|
Alabama | Alabama | Unique |
Alaska | Alaska | Complete |
Arizona | Arizona | Complete |
Arkansas | Arkansas | List article contains 4 people |
California | California | List article has unique content |
Colorado | Colorado | List article has unique content |
Connecticut | Connecticut | List article contains 5 people |
Delaware | Delaware | List article has unique content |
Florida | Florida | List article redirects to Delegations article |
Georgia | Georgia | List article contains 13 people |
Hawaii | Hawaii | Complete |
Idaho | Idaho | List article contains 2 people |
Illinois | Illinois | List article contains 19 people |
Indiana | Indiana | List article contains 9 people |
Iowa | Iowa | List article contains 5 people |
Kansas | Kansas | List article contains 4 people |
Kentucky | Kentucky | List article contains 6 people |
Louisiana | Louisiana | List article contain 7 people |
Maine | Maine | List article contains 2 people |
Maryland | Maryland | List article contains 8 people |
Massachusetts | Massachusetts | Complete |
Michigan | Michigan | List article contains subset of content in Delegations article |
Minnesota | Minnesota | List article contains 24 people |
Mississippi | Mississippi | List article contains subset of content in Delegations article |
Missouri | Missouri | List contains 8 people |
Montana | Montana | List article contains 1 person |
Nebraska | Nebraska | List article contains subset of content in Delegations article |
Nevada | Nevada | List contains 3 people |
New Hampshire | New Hampshire | List contains 2 people |
New Jersey | New Jersey | List article contains subset of content in Delegations article |
New Mexico | New Mexico | List contains 3 people |
New York | New York | Complete |
North Carolina | North Carolina | List article contains subset of content in Delegations article |
North Dakota | North Dakota | List article contains subset of content in Delegations article |
Ohio | Ohio | List article contains subset of content in Delegations article |
Oklahoma | Oklahoma | List contains 5 people |
Oregon | Oregon | List contains ALL people |
Pennsylvania | Pennsylvania | List contains ALL people |
Rhode Island | Rhode Island | List contains all people |
South Carolina | South Carolina | List contains 6 people |
South Dakota | South Dakota | List article contains subset of content in Delegations article |
Tennessee | Tennessee | List contains 9 people |
Texas | Texas | List contains 32 people |
Utah | Utah | List article contains subset of content in Delegations article |
Vermont | Vermont | List contains 4 people |
Virginia | Virginia | List contains 10 people |
Washington | Washington | List contains 9 people |
West Virginia | West Virginia | List contains 3 people |
Wisconsin | Wisconsin | List contains 8 people |
Wyoming | Wyoming | List article redirects to Delegations article |
American Samoa | American Samoa | List article redirects to Delegations article |
District of Columbia | District of Columbia | List article redirects to Delegations article |
Guam | Guam | List article redirects to Delegations article |
Puerto Rico | Puerto Rico | List article redirects to Delegations article |
After User:Markles reverted my change to which articles the Template links to, I thought I should look at all of the states (where previously I had concentrated on my own). As the chart above shows, in all but two cases (MA & DE), the much more robust and complete article is the "Delegations" article. In many cases, the "List" article has only the current delegation, a very small number of historical representatives, or virtually no additional information about the people. In EVERY case, the "Delegations" articles are complete and up-to-date. They link to the reps' individual articles, denote party, list ordinal congress', list years of service, list district, and show graphically who they served along-side. They also show the con-current Senate delegations. I propose that the Template:USRepSuccessionBox link to the "Delegations" articles until such time as the "List" articles compete with respect to standardization, completeness, and substantial unique information. -- Appraiser 15:34, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
The biggest change about this, however, is that omitting all of the above features, and the before and after parameters will isolate the title box; or, including only the "before-box" will omit the end box, and vice versa. See James Madison, again! :p Another use of this is if you have a before and after box that are each two rows and need to squeeze one box inbetween. Cheers!! Foofighter20x ( talk) 23:01, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
In a speedy delete request for a template that redirected here ({{ USRep succession box}}, the author of the request stated, "All uses of this redirection have been migrated to target Template:USRepSuccessionBox in preparation for conversion to s-bef/s-ttl/s-aft style." What conversion is planned?— Markles 22:31, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Could somebody fix this template such that the date range is not spaced? According to the WP:MOS, this isn't necessary when the end date is "present", such as at Paul Ryan#External links. Thanks. – CWenger ( talk) 01:46, 12 April 2011 (UTC) CWenger ( talk) 01:46, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Hi again. I stumbled upon Template:Str find, which I think that would make this request possible. Do you know how to do this? Unfortunately since the page is under full protection I can't test any solutions...it's too bad you aren't allowed to preview changes without saving them on protected pages. I also tried copying the content to my user subpages to mess with at User:CWenger/USRepSuccessionBox, but I can't figure out how to get the examples to use that instead of the main Template page. – CWenger ( ^ • @) 19:35, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
{{#ifexpr: {{Str find|{{{start}}}| }} >= 0 | |}}
on both sides of the en dash in the years tag. I don't know what kind of performance impact this will have. How can we determine that? –
CWenger (
^ •
@)
00:58, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
years= 1979 – 1999
(with spaces) but when the template is actually invoked it is years= 1979–1999
(without spaces). Could you make those consistent? In all cases the bottom version is correct. Thanks. –
CWenger (
^ •
@)
19:15, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
There is a problem with the USRepSuccessionBox template for Territory of Hawaii on the William Paul Jarrett article. "Delegate to the U.S. House of Representatives" works correctly, but "from Territory of Hawaii" shows the Territory of Hawaii as a red link. Peaceray ( talk) 20:01, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Should the template {{s-prec|usa}} be included in the USRepSuccessionBox? The template can be used to add a seniority box at the bottom of the USRepSuccessionBox, such that the ceremonial seniority of a US congressperson is shown flanked by a "preceded by" person and a "succeeded by" person. Such an addition can be seen in this recent edit to the biography of Representative Barbara Lee. See Template:S-prec#With_parameter for context. Binksternet ( talk) 00:17, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
An RfC has been opened at Template talk:Succession box#RfC. The RfC debates the usage of this template especially, and I think that the participation of users who work with this template would be helpful. Kraxler ( talk) 13:14, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
At present, if one writes "after=vacant" there appears in the box the saying "Succeeded by vacant". Is it possible to add a parameter like "vacant=after" to show a simple "Vacant" in the field of the successor? For comparison: omitting the after parameter in incumbent boxes shows just "Incumbent" without "Succeded by". Kraxler ( talk) 14:08, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Change "List of United States Representatives" to "List of United States representatives" to bypass the redirect. Woko Sapien ( talk) 14:41, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
On the first line of this template
{{#if:{{{new|}}}|{{s-new|rows={{{startrows}}}|{{{new}}}}}|{{#if:{{{before|}}}|{{s-bef|before= {{{before}}}}}|}}}}
change {{{startrows}}}
to {{{startrows|1}}}
Viewing the html generated by Abner_Hazeltine, there is some html text of the form
rowspan="{{{startrows}}}"
The above change would generate correct html
I have come across at least 15 pages that have this issue. Desb42 ( talk) 07:29, 13 September 2021 (UTC)