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ADD Qalandariyya && Hurufism 68.100.162.64 ( talk) 10:36, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
It gives link to a Sunni person, who has nothing common with Twelvers 68.100.162.64 ( talk) 04:40, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
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== Tabarie connection is IRRELEVANT also ADD: * Qalandariyya and * Hurufism == 161.253.50.61 ( talk) 01:13, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Hurufiyyah ·
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This gives a link to the page of Tabarie Henry which is irrelevant to Twelvers. 88.246.161.238 ( talk) 14:51, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
I made lots of edits making this have more information as well as making it look nicer, though I would like a better icon (not the sword! all Shiah groups need a unique one). I also recently made the Ismailism template, and wanted them to look somewhat the same in structure. I got rid of the useless information that applied to all Shi'ah groups, fit in all the Imams, and added Twelver religious texts and branches, as well as a See Also section.
Another thing I would like to note, is in both this "See Also" section, and the Ismaili one, we have information that is particular to only one denomination. For example, Marjas and Ayatollahs are specific to Usoolism, but is so central to them it is important to put them somewhere.
We have a talk page, can we please discuss why there is a problem? Streamlining here is important. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enzuru ( talk • contribs)
I prefer to discus here instead of reversions. There are several issues and we should speak about them one by one. I invite other Shi'a wikipedians to come and write their idea. -- Sa.vakilian( t- c) 14:51, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
We're also having a dispute resolution on the Shia Islam template too. I'd love if we can discuss that one. My changes basically were to take out Twelver-specific information from there, put them in here, and add general Shia information into it. Oh, and also make it look nice and more like the Islam template. -- Enzuru 05:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Another thing I'd like to add is I made the Ismaili template from scratch, and was trying to match them up by style, the style being a bit oriented towards the Christianity templates. That was one of the reasons for this massive edit. -- Enzuru 05:50, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Based on the votes I made the changes. Change it if I did anything wrong. -- Enzuru 01:00, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
CommentOf course we should check its copy right situation. Apparently this is the main source of this picture: [1]. Unfortunately the copyright situation of its content is unclear [2]. I sent a mail and asked their permission. -- Sa.vakilian( t- c) 14:51, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
The other picture was better, the one with the sword is already used on the Shia box. Funkynusayri 15:50, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
Hello...can you guys please make a clear distinction between Alawittes and Shias because I feel other sects of Islam confuse the teachings of Alawittes and Shias. The main focus of Shia Islam is God, Muhammad, Ahl Al Beit which includes the Imam Ali and so on. I feel that the message that I have read doesnt say any of that. Shias just bascially believe that the Caliph or Imamate should have stayed within the Prophet's family. The picture should be one that says Allah because remember it is Allah that we worship not the sayf Imam Ali. Under the title on the right put a little picture with the sword. But remember the main focus of Shias is God, Muhammad and his family. Muhammad's progeny. Dont confuse people :P oh and by the way you guys should try "The Imams of Ahl al-Bayt" (the caliphs of the household, Muhammad's progeny).
Which texts should we write in this part?
Gerash 77 13:57, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
I disagree with this part. On one hand Usuli, Akhbari and Shaykhism aren't separate Madhab. They're just different interpretation of Shia. On the other hand most of twelvers don't recognize Alevism and Alawism as twelvers.-- Sa.vakilian( t- c) 15:09, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
We don't recoqnize Alawits. Change the headline into "interpretations".
We can add History of Shi'a Islam and Views on Shi'a Islam in this part. I also want to add Ja'fari jurisprudence and Theology of Shia. I disagree about Qom, Najaf and Ayatollah.-- Sa.vakilian( t- c) 15:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
I advocate most strongly that we rename Theology of Shia to Principles of the Religion. -- Striver - talk 17:53, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Bektashi is in itself really related to Alevism, and is more of a tariqa of Sufism than a school of belief in Twelverism. And, 'ghulat' is just a pejorative, so no use with that. -- Enzuru 01:44, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
On Template:Twelvers, I am considering narrowing the branches to four, which would be Usoolism, Shaykhism, Akhbarism, and then Yazdanism, or what is also known as the Cult of the Angels. Yazdanism will include as its branches Alevism, Alawism, Ahl-e-Haqq ( Yarsan), and Yezidism. This will correlate with a large rewrite and organization of the Yazdani articles. Tell me what you think. -- Enzuru 14:57, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Actually it doesn't. Nur Ali Illahi (Ostad Elahi) is considered an incarnation of God, as are others..not very islamic is it? The yarsan don't follow the Koran nor any of the five pillars. We don't consider ourselves to be muslim. Nur Ali Illahi is also among the modernists that are closer to shiiasm (however not shia) but the majority of yarsan belong to the traditional branch and clearly not islamic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.231.83.143 ( talk) 02:02, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Yes at times some have overtly said the yarsan are muslim, however within the community there is no question about it, Yarí is accorting to ourselves and our neithgbors a non-islamic religion and the community, yarsan, non-muslim —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.231.83.143 ( talk) 02:19, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
That's very generous of you;) Actually I would like to create an account to be more active but i simply don't have time. Also, I consider Wiki to be problematic when it comes to more controversial and disputed articles and matters. Yes we do share many features in our religions, the connection between Alevis and Yarsan that I have studied to some extent are especially interesting, it would be interesting to have a comparative study with Ismailism too..hmm maybe a future project:D But still I think the differences between Yarí and shiism and islam in general are too vast to be considered one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.231.83.143 ( talk) 02:36, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
I won't fight about keeping Alawis and Alevis in here anymore, we'll just keep groups that follow Jafari fiqh as Twelvers. Anyway, I took out information that was general Shi'ah information and put it into the redesign Shi'ah template, and also English-ized things here. -- Enzuru 17:33, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
1) Influential figures. Unlike other faiths (as Corbin noted), Twelver Shi'ah Islam, mainly because of Usulism, is a dynamic and changing faith. Hence, there are certain individuals who have left such a large imprint on the faith, the only equivalents in other religions would have to be figures Paul of Tarsus and Mahavira. We need to take these individuals into play. Here is why I have put the following people:
2) The other figures mentioned in the related movements section, as well as those movements, are without doubt bonded to Twelver Shi'asm in an important enough way to include in this template. 3) Principles of Religion is the translation. "Theology" is just an umbrella term. Principles and Practices of Religion are direct translations because these articles are just there for organization, they do not give the real deep details you need to know to understand the Twelver Shi'ah faith. -- Enzuru 21:17, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Does have Principles of Religion any meaning for non-Shia?
-- Seyyed( t- c) 04:56, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I have a few problems with the style of this box.
1) It's too big. We need to get rid of the excess space and try to compress this.
2) Red links on Wikipedia are a sign of dead links. Counter-intuitive linking is not good
3) Background colors on Wikipedia templates are always predominantly white. This is done for many reasons but primarily because it's a good readable standard. I also see no reason to switch up the fonts.
4) Blending... the color seems to have been chosen because of the image--but it wasn't properly blended...
-- gren グレン 21:13, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
What are the relation of these two articles with Shia. The former may relate to Zarvani, an ancient religion of western Persia, and the later is derived from Sabians. I think we should have good proof to relate them to Shia. I've never heared or read their name as branches of Shia. Thus I remove them. Please tell me your source before adding them.-- Seyyed( t- c) 01:48, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
I have reverted the edits by a user who replaced many links in the template with Arabic expressions, using the Arabic alphabet. Tājik ( talk) 18:10, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Bro, I think these martyrs should get a place on the Twelvers Template. My reasons are:
NEDian ( talk) 18:17, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Was is the popular opinion of this template I created. I tried to create some sort of section for the topics of Taqlid. Taqlid is a fundamental aspect of Shia Islam and so it should have its own section. M.K.Muhammadi ( talk) 02:17, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
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Creating extra space. 174.3.103.39 ( talk) 04:32, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Done Not an admin, though.
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This is the official name, not TWELVER.
68.100.166.227 ( talk) 23:42, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
Theology of Twelvers Should be ADDED into your template. 68.100.166.227 ( talk) 19:08, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
still missing on the template 68.100.166.227 ( talk) 01:38, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
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It gives link to a Sunni person, who has nothing common with Twelvers 68.100.162.64 ( talk) 04:40, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
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== Tabarie connection is IRRELEVANT also ADD: * Qalandariyya and * Hurufism == 161.253.50.61 ( talk) 01:13, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Hurufiyyah ·
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This gives a link to the page of Tabarie Henry which is irrelevant to Twelvers. 88.246.161.238 ( talk) 14:51, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
I made lots of edits making this have more information as well as making it look nicer, though I would like a better icon (not the sword! all Shiah groups need a unique one). I also recently made the Ismailism template, and wanted them to look somewhat the same in structure. I got rid of the useless information that applied to all Shi'ah groups, fit in all the Imams, and added Twelver religious texts and branches, as well as a See Also section.
Another thing I would like to note, is in both this "See Also" section, and the Ismaili one, we have information that is particular to only one denomination. For example, Marjas and Ayatollahs are specific to Usoolism, but is so central to them it is important to put them somewhere.
We have a talk page, can we please discuss why there is a problem? Streamlining here is important. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enzuru ( talk • contribs)
I prefer to discus here instead of reversions. There are several issues and we should speak about them one by one. I invite other Shi'a wikipedians to come and write their idea. -- Sa.vakilian( t- c) 14:51, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
We're also having a dispute resolution on the Shia Islam template too. I'd love if we can discuss that one. My changes basically were to take out Twelver-specific information from there, put them in here, and add general Shia information into it. Oh, and also make it look nice and more like the Islam template. -- Enzuru 05:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Another thing I'd like to add is I made the Ismaili template from scratch, and was trying to match them up by style, the style being a bit oriented towards the Christianity templates. That was one of the reasons for this massive edit. -- Enzuru 05:50, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Based on the votes I made the changes. Change it if I did anything wrong. -- Enzuru 01:00, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
CommentOf course we should check its copy right situation. Apparently this is the main source of this picture: [1]. Unfortunately the copyright situation of its content is unclear [2]. I sent a mail and asked their permission. -- Sa.vakilian( t- c) 14:51, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
The other picture was better, the one with the sword is already used on the Shia box. Funkynusayri 15:50, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
Hello...can you guys please make a clear distinction between Alawittes and Shias because I feel other sects of Islam confuse the teachings of Alawittes and Shias. The main focus of Shia Islam is God, Muhammad, Ahl Al Beit which includes the Imam Ali and so on. I feel that the message that I have read doesnt say any of that. Shias just bascially believe that the Caliph or Imamate should have stayed within the Prophet's family. The picture should be one that says Allah because remember it is Allah that we worship not the sayf Imam Ali. Under the title on the right put a little picture with the sword. But remember the main focus of Shias is God, Muhammad and his family. Muhammad's progeny. Dont confuse people :P oh and by the way you guys should try "The Imams of Ahl al-Bayt" (the caliphs of the household, Muhammad's progeny).
Which texts should we write in this part?
Gerash 77 13:57, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
I disagree with this part. On one hand Usuli, Akhbari and Shaykhism aren't separate Madhab. They're just different interpretation of Shia. On the other hand most of twelvers don't recognize Alevism and Alawism as twelvers.-- Sa.vakilian( t- c) 15:09, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
We don't recoqnize Alawits. Change the headline into "interpretations".
We can add History of Shi'a Islam and Views on Shi'a Islam in this part. I also want to add Ja'fari jurisprudence and Theology of Shia. I disagree about Qom, Najaf and Ayatollah.-- Sa.vakilian( t- c) 15:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
I advocate most strongly that we rename Theology of Shia to Principles of the Religion. -- Striver - talk 17:53, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Bektashi is in itself really related to Alevism, and is more of a tariqa of Sufism than a school of belief in Twelverism. And, 'ghulat' is just a pejorative, so no use with that. -- Enzuru 01:44, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
On Template:Twelvers, I am considering narrowing the branches to four, which would be Usoolism, Shaykhism, Akhbarism, and then Yazdanism, or what is also known as the Cult of the Angels. Yazdanism will include as its branches Alevism, Alawism, Ahl-e-Haqq ( Yarsan), and Yezidism. This will correlate with a large rewrite and organization of the Yazdani articles. Tell me what you think. -- Enzuru 14:57, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Actually it doesn't. Nur Ali Illahi (Ostad Elahi) is considered an incarnation of God, as are others..not very islamic is it? The yarsan don't follow the Koran nor any of the five pillars. We don't consider ourselves to be muslim. Nur Ali Illahi is also among the modernists that are closer to shiiasm (however not shia) but the majority of yarsan belong to the traditional branch and clearly not islamic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.231.83.143 ( talk) 02:02, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Yes at times some have overtly said the yarsan are muslim, however within the community there is no question about it, Yarí is accorting to ourselves and our neithgbors a non-islamic religion and the community, yarsan, non-muslim —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.231.83.143 ( talk) 02:19, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
That's very generous of you;) Actually I would like to create an account to be more active but i simply don't have time. Also, I consider Wiki to be problematic when it comes to more controversial and disputed articles and matters. Yes we do share many features in our religions, the connection between Alevis and Yarsan that I have studied to some extent are especially interesting, it would be interesting to have a comparative study with Ismailism too..hmm maybe a future project:D But still I think the differences between Yarí and shiism and islam in general are too vast to be considered one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.231.83.143 ( talk) 02:36, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
I won't fight about keeping Alawis and Alevis in here anymore, we'll just keep groups that follow Jafari fiqh as Twelvers. Anyway, I took out information that was general Shi'ah information and put it into the redesign Shi'ah template, and also English-ized things here. -- Enzuru 17:33, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
1) Influential figures. Unlike other faiths (as Corbin noted), Twelver Shi'ah Islam, mainly because of Usulism, is a dynamic and changing faith. Hence, there are certain individuals who have left such a large imprint on the faith, the only equivalents in other religions would have to be figures Paul of Tarsus and Mahavira. We need to take these individuals into play. Here is why I have put the following people:
2) The other figures mentioned in the related movements section, as well as those movements, are without doubt bonded to Twelver Shi'asm in an important enough way to include in this template. 3) Principles of Religion is the translation. "Theology" is just an umbrella term. Principles and Practices of Religion are direct translations because these articles are just there for organization, they do not give the real deep details you need to know to understand the Twelver Shi'ah faith. -- Enzuru 21:17, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Does have Principles of Religion any meaning for non-Shia?
-- Seyyed( t- c) 04:56, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I have a few problems with the style of this box.
1) It's too big. We need to get rid of the excess space and try to compress this.
2) Red links on Wikipedia are a sign of dead links. Counter-intuitive linking is not good
3) Background colors on Wikipedia templates are always predominantly white. This is done for many reasons but primarily because it's a good readable standard. I also see no reason to switch up the fonts.
4) Blending... the color seems to have been chosen because of the image--but it wasn't properly blended...
-- gren グレン 21:13, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
What are the relation of these two articles with Shia. The former may relate to Zarvani, an ancient religion of western Persia, and the later is derived from Sabians. I think we should have good proof to relate them to Shia. I've never heared or read their name as branches of Shia. Thus I remove them. Please tell me your source before adding them.-- Seyyed( t- c) 01:48, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
I have reverted the edits by a user who replaced many links in the template with Arabic expressions, using the Arabic alphabet. Tājik ( talk) 18:10, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Bro, I think these martyrs should get a place on the Twelvers Template. My reasons are:
NEDian ( talk) 18:17, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Was is the popular opinion of this template I created. I tried to create some sort of section for the topics of Taqlid. Taqlid is a fundamental aspect of Shia Islam and so it should have its own section. M.K.Muhammadi ( talk) 02:17, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
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Creating extra space. 174.3.103.39 ( talk) 04:32, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Done Not an admin, though.
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68.100.166.227 ( talk) 23:14, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
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This is the official name, not TWELVER.
68.100.166.227 ( talk) 23:42, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
Theology of Twelvers Should be ADDED into your template. 68.100.166.227 ( talk) 19:08, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
still missing on the template 68.100.166.227 ( talk) 01:38, 19 September 2015 (UTC)