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Now, the template is using distance for calculating the zoom, but isn't a good method. I suppose a better way could be based in apparent magnitude, but I don't find a good formula. Telescopi ( talk) 18:57, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}} Would an administrator be interested in adding the category named "Coordinates templates" to this protected article page? That category seems to be appropriate, since it already contains right ascension (RA), declination (DEC), and other (EqCoor) similar templates BrainMarble ( talk) 01:37, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
For
WP:ACCESSIBILITY by the visually impaired, purely decorative images should be marked with "|link=
" so that they don't distract
screen readers as per
WP:ALT #When to specify. Can you please install
the obvious sandbox patch to this template's purely decorative sky map image? Thanks.
Eubulides (
talk)
18:42, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
1. 10 it's only for constellations and all them has now this template. 2. By the moment it can't show information inline, but if someone could program it, it could be a great idea. 3. I don't know how to do compatible the two systems. 4. It was my original idea, but I don't know how to program it. I wanted to make a replica of {{ coord}} for celestial bodies, that linked to lots of databases, and let them to use Wikipedia's information (as Google Maps do with coord templates). Telescopi ( talk) 21:48, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
The terrestrial equivalent of this template, {{ Coord}}, emits a Geo microformat. There is no equivalent microformat for astronomical coordinates, but I should like to propose introducing something similar: a set of class names which can be parsed by tools in the same way that geo microformats can be parsed. Who knows; it may eventually become widespread, and used by other websites publishing astronomical coordinates. Would anyone like to work on this with me? Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 20:49, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
I was wondering about the icon that {{ Sky}} and {{ Need sky}} use... it's Jupiter, but this template cannot be used to address Jupiter in any meaningful manner (since it moves quite a lot...) Seems a bit odd. 76.66.196.139 ( talk) 01:46, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Should this template really be pointing at a single third party sevice rather than multiple ones like the Coord template?© Geni 20:37, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
example was error at This Template documentation
{{Sky |00|42|44.30 |+|41|16|10 |2360000 }}
What's the problem? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kladess ( talk • contribs) 04:37, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
We have good experience over very long time with geohack for geocoding on the earth. So it would be perhaps a good way to link from this template to something similar:
It's running at german wikipedia since over a year and it's editable over Template:SkyTemplate. It'S not the neutral way of wikipedia to support only one service. It better to give the user the choice what he prefer in which situation. So please think about if it would to support skyhack. -- Kolossos ( talk) 09:49, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
I made 13 edits like this one. I estimate that there are about 100 more examples of that problem yet to be fixed (probably using AWB).
That is, the Manual of Style's MOS:MINUS guideline requires a minus sign, not a hyphen, when writing a negative number. Although a hyphen and a minus sign are usually the same thing, in this context a minus sign looks slightly different: compare -− . Therefore, some use a minus sign instead of a hyphen when using this template's declination sign parameter. But it doesn't work. It links correctly to Wikisky, but in the upper right corner it displays the declination as positive, not negative. That could seriously misinform someone who took it for granted that the declination was correct as printed, perhaps leading them to copy the error elsewhere, not find the object with their telescope, or conceivably aim their spaceship north instead of south.
Before I go through 1,924 uses of this template or get AWB working again, note that changing all the minus signs to hyphens is only a temporary solution. People have encoded minus signs in the past, therefore they will continue to encode minus signs in the future, and editing existing minus signs won't fix that. I edited the document, but only people like me read that.
So the permanent solution would be to edit the template, so that the declination sign parameter accepts a minus sign as if it were a hyphen. The second best solution would be to edit the template to print "Unrecognized declination sign", instead of blindly printing a plus sign. Art LaPella ( talk) 15:44, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
Done
After studying template programming, I came up with an unexpectedly simple change to the template that fixes this problem, coded it, tested it, and implemented it. Instead of always printing a plus sign unless a hyphen is coded, it always prints the declination sign as entered, unless it's a hyphen, in which case it uses a minus sign. A side effect is that if no declination sign parameter is entered, it no longer prints a plus sign; it doesn't print a sign at all. That might be considered a feature; if not, it surely isn't as bad as printing minus signs as plus signs. Art LaPella ( talk) 23:27, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
Shouldn't this template better point to the (default) DSS2 image of sky-map.org, rather than to their "astrophoto collection"? {{Sky|11|24|56.6107|+|45|35|31.3073|60000}} not only leads to a view that has far too much zoom (that has already been discussed for years), but it also leads to a useless astrophoto rather than the actual image. Something like this would be preferable. Renerpho ( talk) 01:04, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
This
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The Celestia icon should be copied and this template changed to refer to its own icon file, so the Celestia icon can be updated. See c:File talk:Celestia.png. Bachsau ( talk) 02:31, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
This
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Use Special:PermanentLink/1007260652. Check test cases for effect.
Artoria 2e5 🌉 05:28, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Now that {{ coords}} was converted to LUA Module:Coordinates, which is able to switch between decimal degrees, DMS, and selectable display values; perhaps something should be built for astronomy, that can convert between galactic coordinates, RA-DEC, different epochs and eras, values in Decimal Degrees, DMS, HMS. And perhaps then {{ sky}} could be converted to handle more than just HMS/DMS coords -- 65.92.247.17 ( talk) 00:42, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
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Now, the template is using distance for calculating the zoom, but isn't a good method. I suppose a better way could be based in apparent magnitude, but I don't find a good formula. Telescopi ( talk) 18:57, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}} Would an administrator be interested in adding the category named "Coordinates templates" to this protected article page? That category seems to be appropriate, since it already contains right ascension (RA), declination (DEC), and other (EqCoor) similar templates BrainMarble ( talk) 01:37, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
For
WP:ACCESSIBILITY by the visually impaired, purely decorative images should be marked with "|link=
" so that they don't distract
screen readers as per
WP:ALT #When to specify. Can you please install
the obvious sandbox patch to this template's purely decorative sky map image? Thanks.
Eubulides (
talk)
18:42, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
1. 10 it's only for constellations and all them has now this template. 2. By the moment it can't show information inline, but if someone could program it, it could be a great idea. 3. I don't know how to do compatible the two systems. 4. It was my original idea, but I don't know how to program it. I wanted to make a replica of {{ coord}} for celestial bodies, that linked to lots of databases, and let them to use Wikipedia's information (as Google Maps do with coord templates). Telescopi ( talk) 21:48, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
The terrestrial equivalent of this template, {{ Coord}}, emits a Geo microformat. There is no equivalent microformat for astronomical coordinates, but I should like to propose introducing something similar: a set of class names which can be parsed by tools in the same way that geo microformats can be parsed. Who knows; it may eventually become widespread, and used by other websites publishing astronomical coordinates. Would anyone like to work on this with me? Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 20:49, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
I was wondering about the icon that {{ Sky}} and {{ Need sky}} use... it's Jupiter, but this template cannot be used to address Jupiter in any meaningful manner (since it moves quite a lot...) Seems a bit odd. 76.66.196.139 ( talk) 01:46, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Should this template really be pointing at a single third party sevice rather than multiple ones like the Coord template?© Geni 20:37, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
example was error at This Template documentation
{{Sky |00|42|44.30 |+|41|16|10 |2360000 }}
What's the problem? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kladess ( talk • contribs) 04:37, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
We have good experience over very long time with geohack for geocoding on the earth. So it would be perhaps a good way to link from this template to something similar:
It's running at german wikipedia since over a year and it's editable over Template:SkyTemplate. It'S not the neutral way of wikipedia to support only one service. It better to give the user the choice what he prefer in which situation. So please think about if it would to support skyhack. -- Kolossos ( talk) 09:49, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
I made 13 edits like this one. I estimate that there are about 100 more examples of that problem yet to be fixed (probably using AWB).
That is, the Manual of Style's MOS:MINUS guideline requires a minus sign, not a hyphen, when writing a negative number. Although a hyphen and a minus sign are usually the same thing, in this context a minus sign looks slightly different: compare -− . Therefore, some use a minus sign instead of a hyphen when using this template's declination sign parameter. But it doesn't work. It links correctly to Wikisky, but in the upper right corner it displays the declination as positive, not negative. That could seriously misinform someone who took it for granted that the declination was correct as printed, perhaps leading them to copy the error elsewhere, not find the object with their telescope, or conceivably aim their spaceship north instead of south.
Before I go through 1,924 uses of this template or get AWB working again, note that changing all the minus signs to hyphens is only a temporary solution. People have encoded minus signs in the past, therefore they will continue to encode minus signs in the future, and editing existing minus signs won't fix that. I edited the document, but only people like me read that.
So the permanent solution would be to edit the template, so that the declination sign parameter accepts a minus sign as if it were a hyphen. The second best solution would be to edit the template to print "Unrecognized declination sign", instead of blindly printing a plus sign. Art LaPella ( talk) 15:44, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
Done
After studying template programming, I came up with an unexpectedly simple change to the template that fixes this problem, coded it, tested it, and implemented it. Instead of always printing a plus sign unless a hyphen is coded, it always prints the declination sign as entered, unless it's a hyphen, in which case it uses a minus sign. A side effect is that if no declination sign parameter is entered, it no longer prints a plus sign; it doesn't print a sign at all. That might be considered a feature; if not, it surely isn't as bad as printing minus signs as plus signs. Art LaPella ( talk) 23:27, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
Shouldn't this template better point to the (default) DSS2 image of sky-map.org, rather than to their "astrophoto collection"? {{Sky|11|24|56.6107|+|45|35|31.3073|60000}} not only leads to a view that has far too much zoom (that has already been discussed for years), but it also leads to a useless astrophoto rather than the actual image. Something like this would be preferable. Renerpho ( talk) 01:04, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
The Celestia icon should be copied and this template changed to refer to its own icon file, so the Celestia icon can be updated. See c:File talk:Celestia.png. Bachsau ( talk) 02:31, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Use Special:PermanentLink/1007260652. Check test cases for effect.
Artoria 2e5 🌉 05:28, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Now that {{ coords}} was converted to LUA Module:Coordinates, which is able to switch between decimal degrees, DMS, and selectable display values; perhaps something should be built for astronomy, that can convert between galactic coordinates, RA-DEC, different epochs and eras, values in Decimal Degrees, DMS, HMS. And perhaps then {{ sky}} could be converted to handle more than just HMS/DMS coords -- 65.92.247.17 ( talk) 00:42, 29 May 2022 (UTC)