This template is within the scope of WikiProject Gastropods, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
gastropods on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.GastropodsWikipedia:WikiProject GastropodsTemplate:WikiProject GastropodsGastropods articles
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Taxonomy: For all marine species, Project Gastropods uses the taxonomy in the online database
WoRMS. When starting a new article, do not use sources of taxonomic information that predate the 2017 revision for all gastropod groups ("Revised Classification, Nomenclator and Typification of Gastropod and Monoplacophoran Families" by Philippe Bouchet & Jean-Pierre Rocroi, Bernhard Hausdorf, Andrzej Kaim, Yasunori Kano, Alexander Nützel, Pavel Parkhaev, Michael Schrödl and Ellen E. Strong in Malacologia, 2017, 61(1–2): 1–526.) (can be dowloaded at
Researchgate.net), substituting the previous classification of 2005
Taxonomy of the Gastropoda (Bouchet & Rocroi, 2005). If you need help with any aspect of an article, please leave a note at the Project talk page.
A note
I don't really care for the way this box is being used in the upper right on
Gastropod shell,
Mollusc shell, etc., with the main picture of the shell type being used to the left of the opening paragraph -- I feel this is very disruptive to the normal layout of WP articles.
Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Images says to "Start an article with a right-aligned lead image", and to avoid sandwiching text between images (or other boxes) on opposite margins.
Wikipedia:Navigation templates doesn't disallow right-side templates, but
Wikipedia_talk:Navigation_templates#Right-side_templates does suggest that the consensus is generally for footer-style templates instead. Overall, I don't feel this template adds much additional navigation help over a "Shells" or "Types of shells" category, especially given that it isn't really a series that needs to be in a particular order -- see
Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates for guidelines for using the different types of navigation.
I see a couple possible solutions. This would be my order of preference:
discontinue the template and use a category instead.
move the template down below the first image in the upper right, like the History of Vietnam template in
Nanyue.
alter the template so that the first illustrative image of shell type (with caption) appears within the box, replacing the Paua.jpg image used there now (this is more common in an
infobox than a navigational template, though).
Hi Catherine. I accept you find the template very disruptive and not normal, and that must be disturbing. However it is not actually a violation of MOS, just a variation of the MOS default position. And the brief discussion you linked to
here is confined to just two opinions and refers to sidebars which are 300 px wide. I agree those sidebars hog space and are unsightly. I do not agree that applies to the current template, which is only 100 px wide. This is more a matter of preference than a violation of MOS, and perhaps part of your distaste is that you haven't used them much before. Personally I like them and find them convenient. The style is certainly used elsewhere on Wikipedia, for example on
Royal Navy,
train,
ocean habitats and
fishing articles. Similar side panels are installed on 900 fishing articles, and user traffic counts have increased dramatically, particularly with the more obscure articles. Also, the articles about
Wikipedia itself make extensive use of right navigation panels. Anyway, seashells is not my area. I popped the template in as a spur of the moment impulse because it made it easier for me, but I certainly don't want to impose anything here. My apologies if you are offended. --
Geronimo20 (
talk)
02:33, 23 September 2008 (UTC)reply
Hi Catherine, I am a species of seashell expert. Like you I am somewhat uncomfortable with the use of this particular template, but for different reasons: I was not sure the template was useful as it was originally composed, and plus the content seems odd: rather arbitrary and amateur-seeming. For the time being I am trying to see if the template can be kept, added to, and made more useful, but ultimately, if I can't see that the template is really going to "earn its keep", then I will be in favor of deleting it and going for categories instead. The point of a template is to make navigating to relevant related articles much easier and faster to do; if this one can help considerably with that then it might be able to be an asset. If not then it is just taking up space.
Invertzoo (
talk)
14:43, 26 September 2008 (UTC)reply
I agree. This template does not contribute a sensible overview of the subject and instead feels very eclectic and krufty. I am putting it up for deletion. If there is no further objection one full day from my deletion notice I will proceed to remove this template.
Craig Pemberton (
talk)
22:35, 28 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Oh my god I know why it is there! It is my fault. My last edit to it was a remake of the format. I used the genetics template for the layout and forgot to remove the mutation link. Stupid me!
A. Z. Colvin •
Talk04:57, 28 August 2010 (UTC)reply
This template is within the scope of WikiProject Gastropods, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
gastropods on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.GastropodsWikipedia:WikiProject GastropodsTemplate:WikiProject GastropodsGastropods articles
This template does not require a rating on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale.
Taxonomy: For all marine species, Project Gastropods uses the taxonomy in the online database
WoRMS. When starting a new article, do not use sources of taxonomic information that predate the 2017 revision for all gastropod groups ("Revised Classification, Nomenclator and Typification of Gastropod and Monoplacophoran Families" by Philippe Bouchet & Jean-Pierre Rocroi, Bernhard Hausdorf, Andrzej Kaim, Yasunori Kano, Alexander Nützel, Pavel Parkhaev, Michael Schrödl and Ellen E. Strong in Malacologia, 2017, 61(1–2): 1–526.) (can be dowloaded at
Researchgate.net), substituting the previous classification of 2005
Taxonomy of the Gastropoda (Bouchet & Rocroi, 2005). If you need help with any aspect of an article, please leave a note at the Project talk page.
A note
I don't really care for the way this box is being used in the upper right on
Gastropod shell,
Mollusc shell, etc., with the main picture of the shell type being used to the left of the opening paragraph -- I feel this is very disruptive to the normal layout of WP articles.
Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Images says to "Start an article with a right-aligned lead image", and to avoid sandwiching text between images (or other boxes) on opposite margins.
Wikipedia:Navigation templates doesn't disallow right-side templates, but
Wikipedia_talk:Navigation_templates#Right-side_templates does suggest that the consensus is generally for footer-style templates instead. Overall, I don't feel this template adds much additional navigation help over a "Shells" or "Types of shells" category, especially given that it isn't really a series that needs to be in a particular order -- see
Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates for guidelines for using the different types of navigation.
I see a couple possible solutions. This would be my order of preference:
discontinue the template and use a category instead.
move the template down below the first image in the upper right, like the History of Vietnam template in
Nanyue.
alter the template so that the first illustrative image of shell type (with caption) appears within the box, replacing the Paua.jpg image used there now (this is more common in an
infobox than a navigational template, though).
Hi Catherine. I accept you find the template very disruptive and not normal, and that must be disturbing. However it is not actually a violation of MOS, just a variation of the MOS default position. And the brief discussion you linked to
here is confined to just two opinions and refers to sidebars which are 300 px wide. I agree those sidebars hog space and are unsightly. I do not agree that applies to the current template, which is only 100 px wide. This is more a matter of preference than a violation of MOS, and perhaps part of your distaste is that you haven't used them much before. Personally I like them and find them convenient. The style is certainly used elsewhere on Wikipedia, for example on
Royal Navy,
train,
ocean habitats and
fishing articles. Similar side panels are installed on 900 fishing articles, and user traffic counts have increased dramatically, particularly with the more obscure articles. Also, the articles about
Wikipedia itself make extensive use of right navigation panels. Anyway, seashells is not my area. I popped the template in as a spur of the moment impulse because it made it easier for me, but I certainly don't want to impose anything here. My apologies if you are offended. --
Geronimo20 (
talk)
02:33, 23 September 2008 (UTC)reply
Hi Catherine, I am a species of seashell expert. Like you I am somewhat uncomfortable with the use of this particular template, but for different reasons: I was not sure the template was useful as it was originally composed, and plus the content seems odd: rather arbitrary and amateur-seeming. For the time being I am trying to see if the template can be kept, added to, and made more useful, but ultimately, if I can't see that the template is really going to "earn its keep", then I will be in favor of deleting it and going for categories instead. The point of a template is to make navigating to relevant related articles much easier and faster to do; if this one can help considerably with that then it might be able to be an asset. If not then it is just taking up space.
Invertzoo (
talk)
14:43, 26 September 2008 (UTC)reply
I agree. This template does not contribute a sensible overview of the subject and instead feels very eclectic and krufty. I am putting it up for deletion. If there is no further objection one full day from my deletion notice I will proceed to remove this template.
Craig Pemberton (
talk)
22:35, 28 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Oh my god I know why it is there! It is my fault. My last edit to it was a remake of the format. I used the genetics template for the layout and forgot to remove the mutation link. Stupid me!
A. Z. Colvin •
Talk04:57, 28 August 2010 (UTC)reply