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I am removing the Lambrinos from the template for the Romanian Royal Family because they are arguably not members of this family. Given the acceptance for the King, Michael, and his position as head of the royal family, inclusion of the Lambrinos would undermine his position as king. Because of this acceptance, the Lambrinos are not a part of Romania's royal family even if they claim or wish to be. Charles 16:13, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
This is just another example of why - in my opinion - templates should not be used (at least to the extent they currently are). Templates try to summarize information and present it simply without explanation. Perhaps that works sometimes. But in situations where there is conflict it just doesn't work. A template doesn't allow for the nuancing that narrative text does. Noel S McFerran ( talk) 09:23, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
It is due to his status as a HRH and a "Prince of Romania" in his own right, not as a husband of a Princess since he is not "HRH The Prince Consort of Romania" yet, until Michael's death. Any member of the Royal House (i.e. the larger family of King Michael, inclusive of Prince Radu) with a Royal title (i.e. a HRH) automatically belongs to the Royal Family, per the new Statute rules. Lil' mouse ( talk) 20:25, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I am extremely frustrated that someone went and added the "of Hohenzollern" to the name of each of the princesses. To talk about tastelessness. Undue weight. To talk about what is clutter. If Wikipedia material really faces this sort of "industriousness" (read: damaging tendency to clutter to the point beyond stupidity), I sorely hope that at least some material survives readable. Henq ( talk) 22:07, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
An example how to do the same cluttering in a certain other article: Go add there into the first line as her "proper name", "Her Royal Highness, Lord of Mann (instead of David Howe), Elizabeth II Alexandra Mary Mountbatten-Windsor née Windsor, originally Wettin, Duchess of Saxony, should also be Princess of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha-Saalfeld but her granddaddy unfortunately dropped it, Defender of Faith, Queen of Australia, Queen of Canada, Queen of France (legitimately, title however dropped in 1800), Queen of the United Kingdom, called Majesty". Sure the welcome will be warm. Henq ( talk) 22:13, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
A request for comments which may impact this template has been started at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biographies#RfC on style in royal family templates. You are welcome to comment there. Fram ( talk) 14:31, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
![]() | This template was considered for deletion on 2020 August 20. The result of the discussion was "no consensus". |
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I am removing the Lambrinos from the template for the Romanian Royal Family because they are arguably not members of this family. Given the acceptance for the King, Michael, and his position as head of the royal family, inclusion of the Lambrinos would undermine his position as king. Because of this acceptance, the Lambrinos are not a part of Romania's royal family even if they claim or wish to be. Charles 16:13, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
This is just another example of why - in my opinion - templates should not be used (at least to the extent they currently are). Templates try to summarize information and present it simply without explanation. Perhaps that works sometimes. But in situations where there is conflict it just doesn't work. A template doesn't allow for the nuancing that narrative text does. Noel S McFerran ( talk) 09:23, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
It is due to his status as a HRH and a "Prince of Romania" in his own right, not as a husband of a Princess since he is not "HRH The Prince Consort of Romania" yet, until Michael's death. Any member of the Royal House (i.e. the larger family of King Michael, inclusive of Prince Radu) with a Royal title (i.e. a HRH) automatically belongs to the Royal Family, per the new Statute rules. Lil' mouse ( talk) 20:25, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I am extremely frustrated that someone went and added the "of Hohenzollern" to the name of each of the princesses. To talk about tastelessness. Undue weight. To talk about what is clutter. If Wikipedia material really faces this sort of "industriousness" (read: damaging tendency to clutter to the point beyond stupidity), I sorely hope that at least some material survives readable. Henq ( talk) 22:07, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
An example how to do the same cluttering in a certain other article: Go add there into the first line as her "proper name", "Her Royal Highness, Lord of Mann (instead of David Howe), Elizabeth II Alexandra Mary Mountbatten-Windsor née Windsor, originally Wettin, Duchess of Saxony, should also be Princess of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha-Saalfeld but her granddaddy unfortunately dropped it, Defender of Faith, Queen of Australia, Queen of Canada, Queen of France (legitimately, title however dropped in 1800), Queen of the United Kingdom, called Majesty". Sure the welcome will be warm. Henq ( talk) 22:13, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
A request for comments which may impact this template has been started at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biographies#RfC on style in royal family templates. You are welcome to comment there. Fram ( talk) 14:31, 31 July 2013 (UTC)