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O great RM template guru, I have a request. Would it be possible to edit the standard and multi RM templates to add an optional parameter that would suppress auto-signing? Something like |sign=no
? Auto-signing can occasionally cause problems, such as when someone converts another editor's move to a multi-move or simply replaces a malformed request. It's not the end of the world that the current arrangement requires a second edit to remove the extra signature, but would this be a viable option? It's hard to imagine this being abused, and it would be easily remedied (such as with {{
unsigned}}) if it were. --
BDD (
talk)
17:24, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
@ BDD and Mr. Stradivarius: Well, it's been over a year since BDD made this request on my talk page. I've copied it to here. At the time I was managing two templates which already were a rat's nest of multi-layered logic, so this was tabled for other priorities, like combining the templates and converting them to a single Lua module, where there is now a single line with the four-tilde signature code. So this should be much easier to implement now. I have no problem with it, though with other improvements that have been made, the need for it may be less now. Mr. Stradivarius, can you implement this for me? Thanks, Wbm1058 ( talk) 22:37, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
|sign=
parameter set to anything that makes
Module:Yesno return false, e.g. "no", "No", "n", "N", "false", "FaLsE" or "0". —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪
23:42, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Per the consensus here, I will be updating the default section header created by this template. – Wbm1058 ( talk) 17:30, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
When the RM is cross-namespace, a notification is added. When the ns of origin is mainspace, the text turns out awkward: "This proposal is for a cross-namespace move from to Wikipedia namespace." (Example in case: here [1]). This could also be the case in the reverse direction (target ns is mainspace). - DePiep ( talk) 20:59, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
Per, WP:BADDATEFORMAT, there is a consensus that we should not "zero-pad" the day of the month in dates on Wikipedia, but this template is currently doing that for the dates it puts in headings. I suggest that this should be changed. Please see, for example, Talk:Gary Fan Kwok-wai#Requested move 09 December 2014. — BarrelProof ( talk) 21:34, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
local headingDate = lang:formatDate('d F Y')
In both this template and {{
RMtalk}}, the formatting breaks if markup like <
ins>
or <
del>
is used in the first paragraph. For example:
Markup | Expected output | Actual output |
---|---|---|
{{subst:rm|NewName|reason=Because of <del>this reason</del> <ins>that reason</ins>.}} |
OldName →
NewName – Because of |
OldName →
NewName – Because of
|
Or after substing:
{{requested move/dated|NewName}} [[:OldName]] → {{no redirect|NewName}} – Because of <del>this reason</del> <ins>that reason</ins>. [[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:58, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
with identical results.
This seems to be a bug with how the software handles the paragraph following a table, but I feel like the documentation here and/or at
WP:RM should warn against using such markup in the first paragraph. Or as a workaround, enclosing {{
requested move/dated}} in a dummy <div>...</div>
element seems to fix things. —
174.141.182.82 (
talk)
08:58, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
<
del>
and <
ins>
is another workaround. I'll see if a fix to {{
requested move/dated}} can eliminate this problem.
Wbm1058 (
talk)
16:16, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
|text=
field of {{
tmbox}} in {{
requested move/dated}}. But this bug likely affects more templates than just this one - I suspect it's only not been noticed up to now because not many people use <del>...</del>
and <ins>...</ins>
tags. It would probably be best to fix the bug in MediaWiki rather than putting workarounds in all of our affected templates. —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪
16:26, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
{{subst:rm}}
. That would be a lot of work, and you would have to remove all the warnings again when the bug was resolved. —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪
16:47, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
… |} [[…
. Aside from {{
rm}} and {{
RMtalk}}, what else does this? Unless I’m mistaken, the RM templates are easily the most impacted by this bug. —
174.141.182.82 (
talk)
17:47, 12 April 2015 (UTC)<div>...</div>
tags and we won’t have to bother with warnings.
It works. —
174.141.182.82 (
talk)
18:04, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
<table>...</table>
tags generated by {{
tmbox}} rather than outside of them, breaking the fragile chain of circumstances that the bug needs to manifest itself. (As for why the fragile chain of circumstances exists in the first place, apparently it has something to do with HTML Tidy.) —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪
18:51, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
We should change "Saint Petersburg State Electrotechnical University" to "Saint Petersburg Electrotechnical University" because it's official English name of the university. ('LETI' might be omitted in English texts) http://eltech.ru/en/university /info/en/?search=Saint_Petersburg_State_Electrotechnical_University — Preceding unsigned comment added by GVDubrovskiy ( talk • contribs) 18:15, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
When I preview a subst of this (standard editor) then the preview for the section title is "Proposed move: 15 November 2015" whereas once saved it is "Requested move: 15 November 2015". A little bug there somewhere, I think. Si Trew ( talk) 03:05, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
{{
move}}
(subst'd) which is a redirect to {{
Requested move}}
. I had already got a section title on the page, obviously it adds its own (which I usually then delete). I'll try to produce it better. Perhaps it probably only happens if I do "Create new section" on the page, it didn't happen when substing that template into this text and previewing it. Sorry for not giving repro steps before, I thought it might just be an obvious little bugette.
Si Trew (
talk)
05:18, 15 November 2015 (UTC)header=no
(and sign=no
) options. If all else fails, read the documentation...
Si Trew (
talk)
05:23, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Assigned To: None
Priority: Low
Brion VIBBER created this task (Via Legacy) · Aug 19 2009, 5:39 AM. It's been on the wish list for six years. Sigh.
Ryan Kaldari (WMF), any chance such an enhancement could be implemented by your group? I suppose I could add it to the growing mountain at
m:2015 Community Wishlist Survey. My gut tells me that the right developer should be able to knock this off in no more than a day or two. But usually these kinds of "minor" enhancements only get eventually implemented by volunteers.
Wbm1058 (
talk)
13:58, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
I see that in the template you can add "sign=no" if you want to suppress the signature. Is this proper? Does this mean we are not required to sign the RM and it's just an option? Most of the time I see the signatory of the requested move, but I wanted to know if I had to do it. I tried it for an RM and someone else plopped my signature in anyways. Fyunck(click) ( talk) 08:41, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
~~~~~
. Is this a feature or a bug? If the former, I supposed I could used to signing with ~~~
instead, though it would seem to defeat the purpose of the parameter.--~~~~
. The signature button in the MediaWiki editor supplies this, and it's always been how I prefer to sign my posts. Trivial, sure, but unless those dashes are interfering with something, I don't like the method of my signing interfered with any more than I would appreciate someone else editing my comments. --
BDD (
talk)
18:53, 3 November 2016 (UTC)The result of the move request was: not moved per my comments below. wbm1058 ( talk) 23:51, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
Template:Requested move/dated → ? – This template does not take a |date=
parameter, so the subpage /dated
is incorrect.
Ppp
ery
15:02, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
{{
Requested move/dated}}
is deleted. –
wbm1058 (
talk)
14:58, 30 May 2017 (UTC)/dated
is also used for
Template:Article for deletion/dated. It's fine for the date parameter to be part of that template, as if the page is deleted, everything is gone, and whether the date is a parameter inside the template or text placed outside the template is irrelevant. RM is a different use case.
wbm1058 (
talk)
22:45, 31 May 2017 (UTC)Some editors tend to add the title of the request without realizing the automated "Requested move day month year" heading. If removal is not a good option, what else shall we do? -- George Ho ( talk) 01:44, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
And this still continues. -- George Ho ( talk) 18:25, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
This template has a misnested <small> tag that should be fixed. It appears this error has persisted for many versions. —
Anomalocaris (
talk)
11:44, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
<small>
tags used here. Perhaps you're referring to uses of
Template:Relisting to relist requested moves? Can you point me to a specific open requested move where the problem is manifested? Thanks.
wbm1058 (
talk)
12:39, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
{{
Requested move/dated}}
has a misnested <small>
tag that should be fixed. It appears this error has persisted for many versions. —
Anomalocaris (
talk)
19:34, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
<small>
tag, but like me, you don't know how to fix it. —
Anomalocaris (
talk)
20:09, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
<small>
tags in it. There could be some interaction there.{{
Requested move/dated}}
generating a misnested <small>
tag.
{{requested move/dated|?}}
{{requested move/dated|Church building}}
{{requested move/dated|Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region}}
{{requested move/dated|multiple=yes
|current1=State of Palestine|new1=Palestine|current2=Palestine|new2=Palestine (disambiguation)|current3=Palestinian flag|new3=Flag of Palestine|}}
{{requested move/dated|ICAO phonetic alphabet}}
{{requested move/dated|multiple=yes
|current1=Human swimming|new1=Swimming|current2=Swimming|new2=Swimming (disambiguation)|}}
{{requested move/dated|Saraiki language}}
{{requested move/dated|Fiddling}}
So it seems you see this with every single transclusion of the template. Is there anything wrong with the visible appearance of the page when you look at it? Templates are above your grade; to some extent html tags are above mine. What exactly do you mean by "misnested"? I use <small>say something!</small>
to write small text: say something! "say something!" is nested between the tags, which makes the text small. I assume you're seeing this in the raw html produced by the page. Can you show me the exact syntax issue you see in the raw html? I still don't see it.
wbm1058 (
talk)
02:43, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
<small>...</small>
tags wrap around multiple bullets. This is not allowed because bullets are coded as <li>...</li>
, and <small>...</small>
can't wrap that; <small>...</small>
has to be inside <li>...</li>
. In {{
Requested move/dated}}
, we had a similar situation with two cases of <small>...<div>...</div></small>
. These had to be rewritten as <small>...</small><div><small>...</small></div>
. (There are several oversimplifications in this explanation, but it's good enough.)A link is being created to the question mark: {{no redirect|?}}
This is local defaultNewPagename = '?' -- Name of new pages that haven't been specified
As this is not the literal meaning of the request, this should be changed to just boldface the ? without linking: '''?'''
Thanks. wbm1058 ( talk) 14:22, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
I've
updated the module to support hosting significant multi-move discussions on WikiProject talk pages or other talk pages in Wikipedia: namespace. {{{current1}}}
is thus un-deprecated. {{
Requested move/dated}} and
RMCD bot already support this with no updates to their code necessary.
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trucks is currently hosting such a discussion:
Requested move 25 September 2017. Common discussion pages such as WikiProject talk pages can still only host one open RM discussion at a time. –
wbm1058 (
talk)
13:13, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
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I am a user of malayalam wikipedia. I would like to know the statements in the module that needs to be changed for displaying the message of requested move in the article page and not in talk page. Adithyak1997 ( talk) 03:06, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
if not title.isTalkPage then
.
Huon (
talk)
18:47, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
if not title.isArticle then
or something like that, something that, instead of checking whether you're off a talk page, checks whether you're off an article. If you can't guess the correct word, you can remove that entire if
clause outright, but then your template can be placed anywhere, talk page, article, wherever. You may also want to take a look at the next if
clause which makes sure the template appears on the talk page of the article to be moved. To me that one seems as if only the text of the message might need changing; otherwise it also could be removed outright if you don't mind losing a little more functionality.
Huon (
talk)
18:56, 29 August 2018 (UTC)If an RM discussion is closed and reopened, will the RMCD bot come back and tag the discussion as an RM again after delisting it? In other words, how do I make the discussion a requested move again? — Wei4Green | 唯绿远大 ( talk) 23:57, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
Rather than the "direct move" link in the box, I would like to have a link to move each article in the list underneath. This would make things easier when multiple pages are to be moved. — Martin ( MSGJ · talk) 19:43, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
The list beneath the box is the permanent record of the request – anything written there remains after the move is closed. the tmbox holds the temporary part of the request (a move is closed, from the bot's view, when the tmbox is removed). As I don't think any "move" links should remain after a move is formally closed, the move links should all be inside the tmbox. A lot of multi-move requests are for just two pages, e.g. requests to change a primary topic. It shouldn't be hard to add links in the template for a second page into the tmbox to handle these. But the big requests to move more than two, sometimes a lot more than two pages, need some sort of programming to handle. Another approach would be to develop a (Javascript) tool to assist with these moves. All the information needed to produce the move links is contained inside the tmbox, for example:
{{requested move/dated|multiple=yes
|current1=2018 FIBA Europe Under-16 Championship|new1=2018 FIBA U16 European Championship|current2=2018 FIBA Europe Under-18 Championship|new2=2018 FIBA U18 European Championship|current3=2018 FIBA Europe Under-20 Championship|new3=2018 FIBA U20 European Championship|current4=2018 FIBA Europe Under-16 Championship for Women|new4=2018 FIBA U16 Women's European Championship|current5=2018 FIBA Under-18 Women's European Championship|new5=2018 FIBA U18 Women's European Championship|current6=2018 FIBA Europe Under-20 Championship for Women|new6=2018 FIBA U20 Women's European Championship|current7=2017 FIBA Europe Under-16 Championship|new7=2017 FIBA U16 European Championship|current8=2017 FIBA Europe Under-18 Championship|new8=2017 FIBA U18 European Championship|current9=2017 FIBA Europe Under-20 Championship|new9=2017 FIBA U20 European Championship|current10=2017 FIBA Under-16 Women's European Championship|new10=2017 FIBA U16 Women's European Championship|current11=2017 FIBA Europe Under-18 Championship for Women|new11=2017 FIBA U18 Women's European Championship|current12=2017 FIBA Europe Under-20 Championship for Women|new12=2017 FIBA U20 Women's European Championship|current13=2016 FIBA Europe Under-16 Championship|new13=2016 FIBA U16 European Championship|current14=2016 FIBA Europe Under-18 Championship|new14=2016 FIBA U18 European Championship|current15=2016 FIBA Europe Under-20 Championship|new15=2016 FIBA U20 European Championship|current16=2016 FIBA Europe Under-16 Championship for Women|new16=2016 FIBA U16 Women's European Championship|current17=2016 FIBA Europe Under-18 Championship for Women|new17=2016 FIBA U18 Women's European Championship|current18=2016 FIBA Europe Under-20 Championship for Women|new18=2016 FIBA U20 Women's European Championship|}}
Lua modules can use loop coding to check if |current18=
and |new18=
exist, but it's really a mess to try to hard-code that kind of test into a conventional template.
An issue with the current system design is that the list below the tmbox duplicates the data contained within the tmbox. If an editor decides to change the parameters of a request after-the-fact, they need to make changes in two places – both inside and outside of the tmbox. Often editors change parameters below the tmbox, while neglecting to make the necessary parallel changes inside the tmbox. A possible solution to this might be to only create the "permanent record" at the time the request is formally closed. It's a problem that's been on deep end of my to-do list for a long time. – wbm1058 ( talk) 15:36, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
Below the {{
requested move/dated}} header, this template generates wikitext like: [[:Foo]] → {{no redirect|Bar}}
I've long been puzzled by that leading colon. After reading WP:COLONTRICK, I'm thinking it's there in the case of articles whose titles begin with a slash? But would it not be possible to conditionally add the colon only if the title actually does begin with a slash? Or are there other scenarios that this guards against?
Pretty trivial, I know, but I think it would be at least a tiny quality of life improvement to exclude it when it's not needed (i.e. the vast majority of cases). When I participated in RMs (before I investigated this), if I copied and pasted the article link from the top of the section, I would go back and remove the colon, just because I was vaguely concerned that using this spooky mysterious syntax feature might have some undesirable effect. Colin M ( talk) 17:57, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
I just previewed adding this:
to:
Which I want to see moved to Talk:2011 Canadian federal election/Archive 1
I avoided publishing this possible change though because I noticed in the preview it only showed this error message:
Is there some way to bypass this problem? Like a template for moving talk page archives?
Canadian federal election, 2011 was moved to 2011 Canadian federal election so:
But primary articles do not have archive sub-pages like talk pages do, so I want the move template to display despite the lack of that.
I understand the value of not moving talk pages to nonexistent articles, but we should have a workaround when it's an archive, to recognize the root page does exist. 174.92.134.245 ( talk) 19:02, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
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O great RM template guru, I have a request. Would it be possible to edit the standard and multi RM templates to add an optional parameter that would suppress auto-signing? Something like |sign=no
? Auto-signing can occasionally cause problems, such as when someone converts another editor's move to a multi-move or simply replaces a malformed request. It's not the end of the world that the current arrangement requires a second edit to remove the extra signature, but would this be a viable option? It's hard to imagine this being abused, and it would be easily remedied (such as with {{
unsigned}}) if it were. --
BDD (
talk)
17:24, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
@ BDD and Mr. Stradivarius: Well, it's been over a year since BDD made this request on my talk page. I've copied it to here. At the time I was managing two templates which already were a rat's nest of multi-layered logic, so this was tabled for other priorities, like combining the templates and converting them to a single Lua module, where there is now a single line with the four-tilde signature code. So this should be much easier to implement now. I have no problem with it, though with other improvements that have been made, the need for it may be less now. Mr. Stradivarius, can you implement this for me? Thanks, Wbm1058 ( talk) 22:37, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
|sign=
parameter set to anything that makes
Module:Yesno return false, e.g. "no", "No", "n", "N", "false", "FaLsE" or "0". —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪
23:42, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Per the consensus here, I will be updating the default section header created by this template. – Wbm1058 ( talk) 17:30, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
When the RM is cross-namespace, a notification is added. When the ns of origin is mainspace, the text turns out awkward: "This proposal is for a cross-namespace move from to Wikipedia namespace." (Example in case: here [1]). This could also be the case in the reverse direction (target ns is mainspace). - DePiep ( talk) 20:59, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
Per, WP:BADDATEFORMAT, there is a consensus that we should not "zero-pad" the day of the month in dates on Wikipedia, but this template is currently doing that for the dates it puts in headings. I suggest that this should be changed. Please see, for example, Talk:Gary Fan Kwok-wai#Requested move 09 December 2014. — BarrelProof ( talk) 21:34, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
local headingDate = lang:formatDate('d F Y')
In both this template and {{
RMtalk}}, the formatting breaks if markup like <
ins>
or <
del>
is used in the first paragraph. For example:
Markup | Expected output | Actual output |
---|---|---|
{{subst:rm|NewName|reason=Because of <del>this reason</del> <ins>that reason</ins>.}} |
OldName →
NewName – Because of |
OldName →
NewName – Because of
|
Or after substing:
{{requested move/dated|NewName}} [[:OldName]] → {{no redirect|NewName}} – Because of <del>this reason</del> <ins>that reason</ins>. [[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:58, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
with identical results.
This seems to be a bug with how the software handles the paragraph following a table, but I feel like the documentation here and/or at
WP:RM should warn against using such markup in the first paragraph. Or as a workaround, enclosing {{
requested move/dated}} in a dummy <div>...</div>
element seems to fix things. —
174.141.182.82 (
talk)
08:58, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
<
del>
and <
ins>
is another workaround. I'll see if a fix to {{
requested move/dated}} can eliminate this problem.
Wbm1058 (
talk)
16:16, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
|text=
field of {{
tmbox}} in {{
requested move/dated}}. But this bug likely affects more templates than just this one - I suspect it's only not been noticed up to now because not many people use <del>...</del>
and <ins>...</ins>
tags. It would probably be best to fix the bug in MediaWiki rather than putting workarounds in all of our affected templates. —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪
16:26, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
{{subst:rm}}
. That would be a lot of work, and you would have to remove all the warnings again when the bug was resolved. —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪
16:47, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
… |} [[…
. Aside from {{
rm}} and {{
RMtalk}}, what else does this? Unless I’m mistaken, the RM templates are easily the most impacted by this bug. —
174.141.182.82 (
talk)
17:47, 12 April 2015 (UTC)<div>...</div>
tags and we won’t have to bother with warnings.
It works. —
174.141.182.82 (
talk)
18:04, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
<table>...</table>
tags generated by {{
tmbox}} rather than outside of them, breaking the fragile chain of circumstances that the bug needs to manifest itself. (As for why the fragile chain of circumstances exists in the first place, apparently it has something to do with HTML Tidy.) —
Mr. Stradivarius
♪ talk ♪
18:51, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
We should change "Saint Petersburg State Electrotechnical University" to "Saint Petersburg Electrotechnical University" because it's official English name of the university. ('LETI' might be omitted in English texts) http://eltech.ru/en/university /info/en/?search=Saint_Petersburg_State_Electrotechnical_University — Preceding unsigned comment added by GVDubrovskiy ( talk • contribs) 18:15, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
When I preview a subst of this (standard editor) then the preview for the section title is "Proposed move: 15 November 2015" whereas once saved it is "Requested move: 15 November 2015". A little bug there somewhere, I think. Si Trew ( talk) 03:05, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
{{
move}}
(subst'd) which is a redirect to {{
Requested move}}
. I had already got a section title on the page, obviously it adds its own (which I usually then delete). I'll try to produce it better. Perhaps it probably only happens if I do "Create new section" on the page, it didn't happen when substing that template into this text and previewing it. Sorry for not giving repro steps before, I thought it might just be an obvious little bugette.
Si Trew (
talk)
05:18, 15 November 2015 (UTC)header=no
(and sign=no
) options. If all else fails, read the documentation...
Si Trew (
talk)
05:23, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Assigned To: None
Priority: Low
Brion VIBBER created this task (Via Legacy) · Aug 19 2009, 5:39 AM. It's been on the wish list for six years. Sigh.
Ryan Kaldari (WMF), any chance such an enhancement could be implemented by your group? I suppose I could add it to the growing mountain at
m:2015 Community Wishlist Survey. My gut tells me that the right developer should be able to knock this off in no more than a day or two. But usually these kinds of "minor" enhancements only get eventually implemented by volunteers.
Wbm1058 (
talk)
13:58, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
I see that in the template you can add "sign=no" if you want to suppress the signature. Is this proper? Does this mean we are not required to sign the RM and it's just an option? Most of the time I see the signatory of the requested move, but I wanted to know if I had to do it. I tried it for an RM and someone else plopped my signature in anyways. Fyunck(click) ( talk) 08:41, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
~~~~~
. Is this a feature or a bug? If the former, I supposed I could used to signing with ~~~
instead, though it would seem to defeat the purpose of the parameter.--~~~~
. The signature button in the MediaWiki editor supplies this, and it's always been how I prefer to sign my posts. Trivial, sure, but unless those dashes are interfering with something, I don't like the method of my signing interfered with any more than I would appreciate someone else editing my comments. --
BDD (
talk)
18:53, 3 November 2016 (UTC)The result of the move request was: not moved per my comments below. wbm1058 ( talk) 23:51, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
Template:Requested move/dated → ? – This template does not take a |date=
parameter, so the subpage /dated
is incorrect.
Ppp
ery
15:02, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
{{
Requested move/dated}}
is deleted. –
wbm1058 (
talk)
14:58, 30 May 2017 (UTC)/dated
is also used for
Template:Article for deletion/dated. It's fine for the date parameter to be part of that template, as if the page is deleted, everything is gone, and whether the date is a parameter inside the template or text placed outside the template is irrelevant. RM is a different use case.
wbm1058 (
talk)
22:45, 31 May 2017 (UTC)Some editors tend to add the title of the request without realizing the automated "Requested move day month year" heading. If removal is not a good option, what else shall we do? -- George Ho ( talk) 01:44, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
And this still continues. -- George Ho ( talk) 18:25, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
This template has a misnested <small> tag that should be fixed. It appears this error has persisted for many versions. —
Anomalocaris (
talk)
11:44, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
<small>
tags used here. Perhaps you're referring to uses of
Template:Relisting to relist requested moves? Can you point me to a specific open requested move where the problem is manifested? Thanks.
wbm1058 (
talk)
12:39, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
{{
Requested move/dated}}
has a misnested <small>
tag that should be fixed. It appears this error has persisted for many versions. —
Anomalocaris (
talk)
19:34, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
<small>
tag, but like me, you don't know how to fix it. —
Anomalocaris (
talk)
20:09, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
<small>
tags in it. There could be some interaction there.{{
Requested move/dated}}
generating a misnested <small>
tag.
{{requested move/dated|?}}
{{requested move/dated|Church building}}
{{requested move/dated|Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region}}
{{requested move/dated|multiple=yes
|current1=State of Palestine|new1=Palestine|current2=Palestine|new2=Palestine (disambiguation)|current3=Palestinian flag|new3=Flag of Palestine|}}
{{requested move/dated|ICAO phonetic alphabet}}
{{requested move/dated|multiple=yes
|current1=Human swimming|new1=Swimming|current2=Swimming|new2=Swimming (disambiguation)|}}
{{requested move/dated|Saraiki language}}
{{requested move/dated|Fiddling}}
So it seems you see this with every single transclusion of the template. Is there anything wrong with the visible appearance of the page when you look at it? Templates are above your grade; to some extent html tags are above mine. What exactly do you mean by "misnested"? I use <small>say something!</small>
to write small text: say something! "say something!" is nested between the tags, which makes the text small. I assume you're seeing this in the raw html produced by the page. Can you show me the exact syntax issue you see in the raw html? I still don't see it.
wbm1058 (
talk)
02:43, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
<small>...</small>
tags wrap around multiple bullets. This is not allowed because bullets are coded as <li>...</li>
, and <small>...</small>
can't wrap that; <small>...</small>
has to be inside <li>...</li>
. In {{
Requested move/dated}}
, we had a similar situation with two cases of <small>...<div>...</div></small>
. These had to be rewritten as <small>...</small><div><small>...</small></div>
. (There are several oversimplifications in this explanation, but it's good enough.)A link is being created to the question mark: {{no redirect|?}}
This is local defaultNewPagename = '?' -- Name of new pages that haven't been specified
As this is not the literal meaning of the request, this should be changed to just boldface the ? without linking: '''?'''
Thanks. wbm1058 ( talk) 14:22, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
I've
updated the module to support hosting significant multi-move discussions on WikiProject talk pages or other talk pages in Wikipedia: namespace. {{{current1}}}
is thus un-deprecated. {{
Requested move/dated}} and
RMCD bot already support this with no updates to their code necessary.
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trucks is currently hosting such a discussion:
Requested move 25 September 2017. Common discussion pages such as WikiProject talk pages can still only host one open RM discussion at a time. –
wbm1058 (
talk)
13:13, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
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I am a user of malayalam wikipedia. I would like to know the statements in the module that needs to be changed for displaying the message of requested move in the article page and not in talk page. Adithyak1997 ( talk) 03:06, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
if not title.isTalkPage then
.
Huon (
talk)
18:47, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
if not title.isArticle then
or something like that, something that, instead of checking whether you're off a talk page, checks whether you're off an article. If you can't guess the correct word, you can remove that entire if
clause outright, but then your template can be placed anywhere, talk page, article, wherever. You may also want to take a look at the next if
clause which makes sure the template appears on the talk page of the article to be moved. To me that one seems as if only the text of the message might need changing; otherwise it also could be removed outright if you don't mind losing a little more functionality.
Huon (
talk)
18:56, 29 August 2018 (UTC)If an RM discussion is closed and reopened, will the RMCD bot come back and tag the discussion as an RM again after delisting it? In other words, how do I make the discussion a requested move again? — Wei4Green | 唯绿远大 ( talk) 23:57, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
Rather than the "direct move" link in the box, I would like to have a link to move each article in the list underneath. This would make things easier when multiple pages are to be moved. — Martin ( MSGJ · talk) 19:43, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
The list beneath the box is the permanent record of the request – anything written there remains after the move is closed. the tmbox holds the temporary part of the request (a move is closed, from the bot's view, when the tmbox is removed). As I don't think any "move" links should remain after a move is formally closed, the move links should all be inside the tmbox. A lot of multi-move requests are for just two pages, e.g. requests to change a primary topic. It shouldn't be hard to add links in the template for a second page into the tmbox to handle these. But the big requests to move more than two, sometimes a lot more than two pages, need some sort of programming to handle. Another approach would be to develop a (Javascript) tool to assist with these moves. All the information needed to produce the move links is contained inside the tmbox, for example:
{{requested move/dated|multiple=yes
|current1=2018 FIBA Europe Under-16 Championship|new1=2018 FIBA U16 European Championship|current2=2018 FIBA Europe Under-18 Championship|new2=2018 FIBA U18 European Championship|current3=2018 FIBA Europe Under-20 Championship|new3=2018 FIBA U20 European Championship|current4=2018 FIBA Europe Under-16 Championship for Women|new4=2018 FIBA U16 Women's European Championship|current5=2018 FIBA Under-18 Women's European Championship|new5=2018 FIBA U18 Women's European Championship|current6=2018 FIBA Europe Under-20 Championship for Women|new6=2018 FIBA U20 Women's European Championship|current7=2017 FIBA Europe Under-16 Championship|new7=2017 FIBA U16 European Championship|current8=2017 FIBA Europe Under-18 Championship|new8=2017 FIBA U18 European Championship|current9=2017 FIBA Europe Under-20 Championship|new9=2017 FIBA U20 European Championship|current10=2017 FIBA Under-16 Women's European Championship|new10=2017 FIBA U16 Women's European Championship|current11=2017 FIBA Europe Under-18 Championship for Women|new11=2017 FIBA U18 Women's European Championship|current12=2017 FIBA Europe Under-20 Championship for Women|new12=2017 FIBA U20 Women's European Championship|current13=2016 FIBA Europe Under-16 Championship|new13=2016 FIBA U16 European Championship|current14=2016 FIBA Europe Under-18 Championship|new14=2016 FIBA U18 European Championship|current15=2016 FIBA Europe Under-20 Championship|new15=2016 FIBA U20 European Championship|current16=2016 FIBA Europe Under-16 Championship for Women|new16=2016 FIBA U16 Women's European Championship|current17=2016 FIBA Europe Under-18 Championship for Women|new17=2016 FIBA U18 Women's European Championship|current18=2016 FIBA Europe Under-20 Championship for Women|new18=2016 FIBA U20 Women's European Championship|}}
Lua modules can use loop coding to check if |current18=
and |new18=
exist, but it's really a mess to try to hard-code that kind of test into a conventional template.
An issue with the current system design is that the list below the tmbox duplicates the data contained within the tmbox. If an editor decides to change the parameters of a request after-the-fact, they need to make changes in two places – both inside and outside of the tmbox. Often editors change parameters below the tmbox, while neglecting to make the necessary parallel changes inside the tmbox. A possible solution to this might be to only create the "permanent record" at the time the request is formally closed. It's a problem that's been on deep end of my to-do list for a long time. – wbm1058 ( talk) 15:36, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
Below the {{
requested move/dated}} header, this template generates wikitext like: [[:Foo]] → {{no redirect|Bar}}
I've long been puzzled by that leading colon. After reading WP:COLONTRICK, I'm thinking it's there in the case of articles whose titles begin with a slash? But would it not be possible to conditionally add the colon only if the title actually does begin with a slash? Or are there other scenarios that this guards against?
Pretty trivial, I know, but I think it would be at least a tiny quality of life improvement to exclude it when it's not needed (i.e. the vast majority of cases). When I participated in RMs (before I investigated this), if I copied and pasted the article link from the top of the section, I would go back and remove the colon, just because I was vaguely concerned that using this spooky mysterious syntax feature might have some undesirable effect. Colin M ( talk) 17:57, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
I just previewed adding this:
to:
Which I want to see moved to Talk:2011 Canadian federal election/Archive 1
I avoided publishing this possible change though because I noticed in the preview it only showed this error message:
Is there some way to bypass this problem? Like a template for moving talk page archives?
Canadian federal election, 2011 was moved to 2011 Canadian federal election so:
But primary articles do not have archive sub-pages like talk pages do, so I want the move template to display despite the lack of that.
I understand the value of not moving talk pages to nonexistent articles, but we should have a workaround when it's an archive, to recognize the root page does exist. 174.92.134.245 ( talk) 19:02, 2 December 2019 (UTC)