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I'd like to see an article on each and every one of the 600 or 700 or so entities soon enough. When this template grows it will be split A-M M-Z ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 10:05, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Hey, I don't like this template. Far from complete and when it is complete it will be huge. It will take up most of the article by itself while the articles are mostly small. I vote to delete it or at least not use. -- Saipan Sam 05:06, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
A flying visit from me as I still have WP Philately on my watchlist. I have problems with templates myself and I've had a look at this thing which is one of the worst I've seen yet, especially given its growth potential. I think what Saipan Sam means about the linkages is that he has used the "What links here" option in a page's toolbox (on the left of the page) to try and see what the relevant linkages are. Instead of a handful of useful linkages he has been presented with a long list including every single item on the template. The best thing to do is nominate the template for deletion: I'll support you if you do. -- BlackJack | talk page 08:42, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
You said...
We are having a problem with this template for the Philately WikiProject. The issue is that when one is on a page that is contained in the template, if one clicks on the What links here, all the other entries from the template appear in the list. Is there a way to exclude those links showing as it makes the "What links here" results useless because it is overwhelmed by the template returns instead of the page's usual links. Please reply on the template talk page. Cheers TIA ww2censor 14:38, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
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<span class="plainlinksneverexpand">[{{fullurl:Link_destination}} Link destination]</span>
I must say that I very much against adding redlinks to potential article in templates when there seems to be no real possibility of the article being added anytime soon. If the template is to be useful and functional then country links should only be added when they actually have an article, preferably more than a stub. I would be in favour of removing all the redlinks, or at least making them invisible. Cheers ww2censor ( talk) 03:19, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
This template is becoming massive especially if the red links remain. I suggest that it gets broken down to smaller regional templates. An example could be to use membership to the European Conference of Postal and Telecommunications Administrations for Europe and so on. A good example of how the spiraling size of such templates was managed can e seen here:
StephP ( talk) 11:58, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
For what it's worth, I do think the current template is unnecessarily large. It'd be good to see one, instead, that shows major philatelic regions. IMO, these wouldn't need to be mutually exclusive. For instance, you could have a BNA or British Commonwealth grouping, French colonies, etc., as well as continents. Maybe also include a half dozen individual English-speaking countries, (UK, US, Canada, Australia, Ireland, India, etc), since we do cater to English readers. Thanks, HG | Talk 21:15, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
No one got back with additional suggestions or help, so here is the replacement divided by continents with some subgroups I think are appropriate. I still cannot figure out how to limit the subgroup title box from extending to the right way beyond the actual subgroup title text. Any one who know, please fix it. Hope you approve as it is much tidier and easy to find places. ww2censor ( talk) 22:41, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
A fr.user ( fr:User:Ducloy) created templates for British and French related postal histories : fr:Modèle:Palette Histoire postale de l'Empire britannique and fr:Modèle:Palette Histoire philatélique et postale de l'Empire colonial français. It may be interesting for readers to have both the complete template (with all countries) and a more precise one inside a postal colonial empire.
Perhaps, the full complete one can be duplicated with a complete one for today (listing only nowadays postal administrations). Sebjarod ( talk) 16:23, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
I have expanded the navbox title to include the term administration. ww2censor ( talk) 14:43, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
мм.. что то я не могу найти его в шаблоне, может кто поможет найти?=)-- Фрашкард ( talk) 18:06, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Helpful? For whom? Babies? The map in a navigation template is pointless not to mention taking up more space in an already bloated infobox. It was I who created this template as Dr. Blofeld and it certainly was not me who inserted this silly colorful childish looking world map. I would recommend splitting the template by continent and red linking the missing articles so soon enough we have all of the 700 odd stap entities linked? Himalayan 10:29, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
I see Stan Shebs and George also agree with splitting this template... Himalayan 10:39, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Are there any objections to replacing this template with regional ones like?
Himalayan 10:56, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
What are you talking about? Six or seven templates? One template would be used for Ireland, the European one, I don't follow... A single world template will eventually have 700 links, too big. Look atht e Californian reserves template, ridiculously big!! I suggest we add regional templates one template at the bottom of article and have links to the other regions at the bottom... Stan I have the Stanley Gibbons catalogue for 2004 for all A-Z entities. I'd be happy to help start some. They may be basic but at this stage we shouldn't really be missing articles about postal history of countries like Spain and Brazil. We have the postal history of Obock but not Spain! Himalayan 15:07, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Six or seven templates is absolute nonsense... One template Ww2. And small links to other regions at the bottom to avoid single template clutter. If you are reading Ireland click Americas at the footer of the template and Bob's your Uncle Mexico is their to be clicked. Now please don't try to say that "many people will not know whether or not Mexico is in Americas or Asia or not. Besides which we have categories linking together every entity... Himalayan 15:20, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Yes Stan, I think a few red links will do for now, no need to go overboard just yet and list them all!! This way they can be started gradually a few at a time, working towards the ultimate goal, to have an article about every entity which given time hopefully will all develop. BTW I noticed a very good article on Palestine polstal history. With a bit of work I'd say this has at least GA potential and might be one for a collaboration to take to FA.. Dunno, but I think it has potential.. Himalayan 15:41, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
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I'd like to see an article on each and every one of the 600 or 700 or so entities soon enough. When this template grows it will be split A-M M-Z ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 10:05, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Hey, I don't like this template. Far from complete and when it is complete it will be huge. It will take up most of the article by itself while the articles are mostly small. I vote to delete it or at least not use. -- Saipan Sam 05:06, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
A flying visit from me as I still have WP Philately on my watchlist. I have problems with templates myself and I've had a look at this thing which is one of the worst I've seen yet, especially given its growth potential. I think what Saipan Sam means about the linkages is that he has used the "What links here" option in a page's toolbox (on the left of the page) to try and see what the relevant linkages are. Instead of a handful of useful linkages he has been presented with a long list including every single item on the template. The best thing to do is nominate the template for deletion: I'll support you if you do. -- BlackJack | talk page 08:42, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
You said...
We are having a problem with this template for the Philately WikiProject. The issue is that when one is on a page that is contained in the template, if one clicks on the What links here, all the other entries from the template appear in the list. Is there a way to exclude those links showing as it makes the "What links here" results useless because it is overwhelmed by the template returns instead of the page's usual links. Please reply on the template talk page. Cheers TIA ww2censor 14:38, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Replies:
<span class="plainlinksneverexpand">[{{fullurl:Link_destination}} Link destination]</span>
I must say that I very much against adding redlinks to potential article in templates when there seems to be no real possibility of the article being added anytime soon. If the template is to be useful and functional then country links should only be added when they actually have an article, preferably more than a stub. I would be in favour of removing all the redlinks, or at least making them invisible. Cheers ww2censor ( talk) 03:19, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
This template is becoming massive especially if the red links remain. I suggest that it gets broken down to smaller regional templates. An example could be to use membership to the European Conference of Postal and Telecommunications Administrations for Europe and so on. A good example of how the spiraling size of such templates was managed can e seen here:
StephP ( talk) 11:58, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
For what it's worth, I do think the current template is unnecessarily large. It'd be good to see one, instead, that shows major philatelic regions. IMO, these wouldn't need to be mutually exclusive. For instance, you could have a BNA or British Commonwealth grouping, French colonies, etc., as well as continents. Maybe also include a half dozen individual English-speaking countries, (UK, US, Canada, Australia, Ireland, India, etc), since we do cater to English readers. Thanks, HG | Talk 21:15, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
No one got back with additional suggestions or help, so here is the replacement divided by continents with some subgroups I think are appropriate. I still cannot figure out how to limit the subgroup title box from extending to the right way beyond the actual subgroup title text. Any one who know, please fix it. Hope you approve as it is much tidier and easy to find places. ww2censor ( talk) 22:41, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
A fr.user ( fr:User:Ducloy) created templates for British and French related postal histories : fr:Modèle:Palette Histoire postale de l'Empire britannique and fr:Modèle:Palette Histoire philatélique et postale de l'Empire colonial français. It may be interesting for readers to have both the complete template (with all countries) and a more precise one inside a postal colonial empire.
Perhaps, the full complete one can be duplicated with a complete one for today (listing only nowadays postal administrations). Sebjarod ( talk) 16:23, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
I have expanded the navbox title to include the term administration. ww2censor ( talk) 14:43, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
мм.. что то я не могу найти его в шаблоне, может кто поможет найти?=)-- Фрашкард ( talk) 18:06, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Helpful? For whom? Babies? The map in a navigation template is pointless not to mention taking up more space in an already bloated infobox. It was I who created this template as Dr. Blofeld and it certainly was not me who inserted this silly colorful childish looking world map. I would recommend splitting the template by continent and red linking the missing articles so soon enough we have all of the 700 odd stap entities linked? Himalayan 10:29, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
I see Stan Shebs and George also agree with splitting this template... Himalayan 10:39, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Are there any objections to replacing this template with regional ones like?
Himalayan 10:56, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
What are you talking about? Six or seven templates? One template would be used for Ireland, the European one, I don't follow... A single world template will eventually have 700 links, too big. Look atht e Californian reserves template, ridiculously big!! I suggest we add regional templates one template at the bottom of article and have links to the other regions at the bottom... Stan I have the Stanley Gibbons catalogue for 2004 for all A-Z entities. I'd be happy to help start some. They may be basic but at this stage we shouldn't really be missing articles about postal history of countries like Spain and Brazil. We have the postal history of Obock but not Spain! Himalayan 15:07, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Six or seven templates is absolute nonsense... One template Ww2. And small links to other regions at the bottom to avoid single template clutter. If you are reading Ireland click Americas at the footer of the template and Bob's your Uncle Mexico is their to be clicked. Now please don't try to say that "many people will not know whether or not Mexico is in Americas or Asia or not. Besides which we have categories linking together every entity... Himalayan 15:20, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Yes Stan, I think a few red links will do for now, no need to go overboard just yet and list them all!! This way they can be started gradually a few at a time, working towards the ultimate goal, to have an article about every entity which given time hopefully will all develop. BTW I noticed a very good article on Palestine polstal history. With a bit of work I'd say this has at least GA potential and might be one for a collaboration to take to FA.. Dunno, but I think it has potential.. Himalayan 15:41, 21 October 2009 (UTC)