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Based on your message on my Talk page, Ghirlandajo, I like the idea of putting together a map of the North Pontic Greek Colonies. This map would include the colonies listed in this template (assuming space works out) and would show the north and east shores of the Black Sea. I would foresee this map being used on many of the colony articles, perhaps at 300px (so that the names can be read from the article).
I am struggling with the use of "Pontic" to describe the north shore of the Black Sea as well as the steppe north of that. Although I am not familiar with the term, "Pontic" generally seems to refer to the south shore of the Black Sea (see Pontus or Pontic). I wonder if there's not some more intuitive term to use here.
Also, it seems that Charax was not a Greek colony, and I'm thinking it should be removed from the list.
Finally, I had earlier listed Georgia here as the present-day home of Dioscurias. Very few native English speakers would recognize the name "Abkhazia" and it is not, after all, a true nation-state. No big deal to me, but thought I would explain.
Let me know about the map, MapMaster 18:08, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
I generally concur with Ghirla, although Charax is rightly not shown on the 450 BC map of course. A very nice map, btw, what is your source for the coastline & rivers? I should begin making less amateurish maps myself. To be pedantic, the labels are a little bit inconsistent in picking Greek, Latin, or Anglicized names (e.g. either "Maeotian Lake" and "Euxine Sea", or "Palus Maeotis" and "Euxeinos Pontos". " Pontic" of course primarily refers to the Black Sea itself, and "Pontic colonies" are those on the shores of the Black Sea. The term has been expanded to label the Pontic steppe, but that is from a Greek perspective, as it were "the steppe beyond the Pontus". dab (ᛏ) 09:47, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for all the suggestions and corrections for the Image:Ancient Greek_Colonies of N Black Sea.png map. I have endeavoured to put them into the second version -- let me know if you see anything else that needs to be addessed. Cheers, MapMaster 04:09, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
I think this template is quite useful. I'd like to suggest some improvement:
1. Phasis, Kalos Limen and Nikonoi should be included; 2. I'm not sure that Eupatoria bore that name before XVIII century - it seems to me it always was Kerkinis. 93.183.253.190 ( talk) 10:50, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
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Based on your message on my Talk page, Ghirlandajo, I like the idea of putting together a map of the North Pontic Greek Colonies. This map would include the colonies listed in this template (assuming space works out) and would show the north and east shores of the Black Sea. I would foresee this map being used on many of the colony articles, perhaps at 300px (so that the names can be read from the article).
I am struggling with the use of "Pontic" to describe the north shore of the Black Sea as well as the steppe north of that. Although I am not familiar with the term, "Pontic" generally seems to refer to the south shore of the Black Sea (see Pontus or Pontic). I wonder if there's not some more intuitive term to use here.
Also, it seems that Charax was not a Greek colony, and I'm thinking it should be removed from the list.
Finally, I had earlier listed Georgia here as the present-day home of Dioscurias. Very few native English speakers would recognize the name "Abkhazia" and it is not, after all, a true nation-state. No big deal to me, but thought I would explain.
Let me know about the map, MapMaster 18:08, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
I generally concur with Ghirla, although Charax is rightly not shown on the 450 BC map of course. A very nice map, btw, what is your source for the coastline & rivers? I should begin making less amateurish maps myself. To be pedantic, the labels are a little bit inconsistent in picking Greek, Latin, or Anglicized names (e.g. either "Maeotian Lake" and "Euxine Sea", or "Palus Maeotis" and "Euxeinos Pontos". " Pontic" of course primarily refers to the Black Sea itself, and "Pontic colonies" are those on the shores of the Black Sea. The term has been expanded to label the Pontic steppe, but that is from a Greek perspective, as it were "the steppe beyond the Pontus". dab (ᛏ) 09:47, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for all the suggestions and corrections for the Image:Ancient Greek_Colonies of N Black Sea.png map. I have endeavoured to put them into the second version -- let me know if you see anything else that needs to be addessed. Cheers, MapMaster 04:09, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
I think this template is quite useful. I'd like to suggest some improvement:
1. Phasis, Kalos Limen and Nikonoi should be included; 2. I'm not sure that Eupatoria bore that name before XVIII century - it seems to me it always was Kerkinis. 93.183.253.190 ( talk) 10:50, 27 February 2009 (UTC)