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Tokyo (東京都 Tōkyō-to (help)) That's what i want to do with the template, because the ? is just too small. The discussion at top is too old for me to revive, so I'm proposing this. ~ Crazytales ~ patent nonsense! 20:44, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
This templete is broken. Example:
Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (, Gojira tai Mekagojira?)
Note the part after the first parenthesis.
Created from {{nihongo|'''''Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla'''''||Gojira tai Mekagojira}}
When you include an equal sign in the English part, it screws around, dropping the english, and seemingly shifting the other parts around.
"{{nihongo|2x2 = Shinobuden|ニニンがシノブ伝| Ninin ga Shinobuden}}" -> "ニニンがシノブ伝 ( Ninin ga Shinobuden ?)"
- Omnisentry 14:15, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Another workaround would be to type = instead of =. Wikipeditor 05:08, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Why this template does not display like {{ CJKV}}? OK, how about this:
-- JSH-alive talk to me see my works mail to me 07:46, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
Two interwiki links to be added:
eo:Ŝablono:Nihongo and
es:Plantilla:Nihongo. —
TangentCube,
Dialogues
16:40, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Every other name-in-other-language template I've seen tells you what language it is. I think this template would be a lot more useful and less confusing if it was like the Chinese name one, pointing out that this is the name in English, this is the name in Kanji letters, etc. As it is, if you don't know the first thing about Japanese names, it makes no sense. Awartha 06:00, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
I think there should be another optional field for Katakana, in the end it should look like:
Hueco Mundo (
Japanese:虚圏;
katakana: ウェコムンド Weko Mundo
?)
--
Ynhockey (
Talk)
12:24, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
In my opinion, changing "?" to "Help" in this template makes it look bulky. I would like to request it be changed back. -- RattleMan 18:34, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
It's horrible, even when there's just one name. You get the name, then you get the "Help" squawk. Ugh. I'm about to revert. If there's really some widespread desire for "Help", let's see it expressed here persuasively. -- Hoary ( talk) 10:02, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Please post all comments over here. We need to keep the discussion in one place. Thanks. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 01:46, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
I like how the new symbol looks, but there's a problem somewhere with the coding, I think. In addition to creating a help link on the symbol, it also creates a link on the character directly beneath it. Anyway to fix that? (I'm using Internet Explorer.) Douggers ( talk) 01:46, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Are there any templates like {{ Nihongo}} for Korean, Chinese, Russian, Indonesian, and/or other languages with non-Latin alphabets/character sets? If so, could someone add links to the "See also" section? Thanks in advance! — Dino guy 1000 18:17, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
{{ Editprotected}} Field 2 needs to be italicized, like any other non-English material, per WP:MOS. I've already made this change to the two related templates (see "See also" section), but this one is protected. — SMcCandlish [ talk] [ cont] ‹(-¿-)› 08:50, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
However, it would be useful is the the Romanised version were marked up with {{
lang|ja-Latn|...}}
, or
<span lang="ja-Latn">...</span>
since this uses direct HTML anyway! — Sladen ( talk) 22:32, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Use
@media print {
.t_nihongo_help
{
display: none;
}
}
in your user CSS to hide the help question mark for printing. (I think this should be added to the Template or its governing CSS files itself, but I'm not sure how that'd be done.) -- an odd name 23:43, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
Please change class="t_nihongo_help" into class="t_nihongo_help noprint" within the template itself to achieve the same functionality. --
TheDJ (
talk •
contribs)
11:32, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Couldn't you just use the {{lang|en|...}} template? I've seen it done on the Japanese Wikipedia to make Latin characters appear not as this. Macs don't appear to encounter this problem (according to User:Nihonjoe), but Windows do. {{Nihongo|Alphabet|{{lang|en|ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUV}}|}} appears as Alphabet (ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ). moocowsrule talk to moo 07:50, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}}
I've attempted to redo the template in the sandbox and made a few test cases. The object is to make it a bit more robust with missing fields, especially regarding the first two. If there are no objections, I'll make an {{ editprotected}} request. -- Farix ( Talk) 05:18, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
{{Nihongo||{{{1|}}}|{{{2|}}}|{{{3|}}}|{{{4|}}}}}
which would do the same thing. Why have we never made the default values of the fields blank in the past? --
Eruhildo (
talk)
23:44, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Is it time to remove the little question make now? It looks strange and most computers have Japanese fonts these days. -- Apoc2400 ( talk) 11:18, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}}
Just did some major cleanup on this template in the sandbox. The end result will be the same as far as the user is concerned, as can be seen at Template:Nihongo/testcases. This will fix List of manga licensed in English, List of Case Closed chapters, and 3 others so they no longer trip Category:Pages with too many expensive parser function calls. -- Pascal666 ( talk) 23:43, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Is the new extra spacing between the second parameter and the help link when the third is undefined the desired output? — tan³ tx 10:06, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
Please enclose <span class="t_nihongo_help"><sup>[[Help:Japanese|<span class="t_nihongo_icon" style="color: #00e; font: bold 80% sans-serif; text-decoration: none; padding: 0 .1em;">?</span>]]</sup></span>
with {{Hide in print|1=
and }}
so that question mark that lead to
Help:Japanese does not appear in PDF version.
Here is modified version of the template and discussion about the matter is at
Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Japan#Books from Wikipedia articles. Thank you. --
Kusunose 09:36, 1 March 2009 (UTC) -- fixed unmatching <nowiki>, sorry. --
Kusunose
13:26, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Both need to be done. The first to avoid the ? being shown in normal printing, and this one to avoid the ? being shown in PDF/book printing. (I know, stupid that we require two markings to hide something from print.. -- TheDJ ( talk • contribs) 19:47, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
{{Hide in print|?}}
. I tried it on a copy in my user space and it worked. Thanks
Fg2 (
talk)
20:17, 1 March 2009 (UTC)class="t_nihongo_help"
to class="t_nihongo_help noprint"
[1] fixed PDF version as well as printable version. Thank you! --
Kusunose
03:31, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Commas and spaces are inverted: it should be <text>,<space><text>, while now it is <text><space>,<text>. Also, the reference mark shouldn’t be preceded by a space.
I did manage a partial improvement in the sandbox, but haven’t been able to implement it. Can someone more knowledgeable do that?
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Tokyo (東京都 Tōkyō-to (help)) That's what i want to do with the template, because the ? is just too small. The discussion at top is too old for me to revive, so I'm proposing this. ~ Crazytales ~ patent nonsense! 20:44, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
This templete is broken. Example:
Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (, Gojira tai Mekagojira?)
Note the part after the first parenthesis.
Created from {{nihongo|'''''Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla'''''||Gojira tai Mekagojira}}
When you include an equal sign in the English part, it screws around, dropping the english, and seemingly shifting the other parts around.
"{{nihongo|2x2 = Shinobuden|ニニンがシノブ伝| Ninin ga Shinobuden}}" -> "ニニンがシノブ伝 ( Ninin ga Shinobuden ?)"
- Omnisentry 14:15, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Another workaround would be to type = instead of =. Wikipeditor 05:08, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Why this template does not display like {{ CJKV}}? OK, how about this:
-- JSH-alive talk to me see my works mail to me 07:46, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
Two interwiki links to be added:
eo:Ŝablono:Nihongo and
es:Plantilla:Nihongo. —
TangentCube,
Dialogues
16:40, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Every other name-in-other-language template I've seen tells you what language it is. I think this template would be a lot more useful and less confusing if it was like the Chinese name one, pointing out that this is the name in English, this is the name in Kanji letters, etc. As it is, if you don't know the first thing about Japanese names, it makes no sense. Awartha 06:00, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
I think there should be another optional field for Katakana, in the end it should look like:
Hueco Mundo (
Japanese:虚圏;
katakana: ウェコムンド Weko Mundo
?)
--
Ynhockey (
Talk)
12:24, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
In my opinion, changing "?" to "Help" in this template makes it look bulky. I would like to request it be changed back. -- RattleMan 18:34, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
It's horrible, even when there's just one name. You get the name, then you get the "Help" squawk. Ugh. I'm about to revert. If there's really some widespread desire for "Help", let's see it expressed here persuasively. -- Hoary ( talk) 10:02, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Please post all comments over here. We need to keep the discussion in one place. Thanks. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 01:46, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
I like how the new symbol looks, but there's a problem somewhere with the coding, I think. In addition to creating a help link on the symbol, it also creates a link on the character directly beneath it. Anyway to fix that? (I'm using Internet Explorer.) Douggers ( talk) 01:46, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Are there any templates like {{ Nihongo}} for Korean, Chinese, Russian, Indonesian, and/or other languages with non-Latin alphabets/character sets? If so, could someone add links to the "See also" section? Thanks in advance! — Dino guy 1000 18:17, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
{{ Editprotected}} Field 2 needs to be italicized, like any other non-English material, per WP:MOS. I've already made this change to the two related templates (see "See also" section), but this one is protected. — SMcCandlish [ talk] [ cont] ‹(-¿-)› 08:50, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
However, it would be useful is the the Romanised version were marked up with {{
lang|ja-Latn|...}}
, or
<span lang="ja-Latn">...</span>
since this uses direct HTML anyway! — Sladen ( talk) 22:32, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Use
@media print {
.t_nihongo_help
{
display: none;
}
}
in your user CSS to hide the help question mark for printing. (I think this should be added to the Template or its governing CSS files itself, but I'm not sure how that'd be done.) -- an odd name 23:43, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
Please change class="t_nihongo_help" into class="t_nihongo_help noprint" within the template itself to achieve the same functionality. --
TheDJ (
talk •
contribs)
11:32, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Couldn't you just use the {{lang|en|...}} template? I've seen it done on the Japanese Wikipedia to make Latin characters appear not as this. Macs don't appear to encounter this problem (according to User:Nihonjoe), but Windows do. {{Nihongo|Alphabet|{{lang|en|ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUV}}|}} appears as Alphabet (ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ). moocowsrule talk to moo 07:50, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}}
I've attempted to redo the template in the sandbox and made a few test cases. The object is to make it a bit more robust with missing fields, especially regarding the first two. If there are no objections, I'll make an {{ editprotected}} request. -- Farix ( Talk) 05:18, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
{{Nihongo||{{{1|}}}|{{{2|}}}|{{{3|}}}|{{{4|}}}}}
which would do the same thing. Why have we never made the default values of the fields blank in the past? --
Eruhildo (
talk)
23:44, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Is it time to remove the little question make now? It looks strange and most computers have Japanese fonts these days. -- Apoc2400 ( talk) 11:18, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
{{ editprotected}}
Just did some major cleanup on this template in the sandbox. The end result will be the same as far as the user is concerned, as can be seen at Template:Nihongo/testcases. This will fix List of manga licensed in English, List of Case Closed chapters, and 3 others so they no longer trip Category:Pages with too many expensive parser function calls. -- Pascal666 ( talk) 23:43, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Is the new extra spacing between the second parameter and the help link when the third is undefined the desired output? — tan³ tx 10:06, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
{{
editprotected}}
Please enclose <span class="t_nihongo_help"><sup>[[Help:Japanese|<span class="t_nihongo_icon" style="color: #00e; font: bold 80% sans-serif; text-decoration: none; padding: 0 .1em;">?</span>]]</sup></span>
with {{Hide in print|1=
and }}
so that question mark that lead to
Help:Japanese does not appear in PDF version.
Here is modified version of the template and discussion about the matter is at
Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Japan#Books from Wikipedia articles. Thank you. --
Kusunose 09:36, 1 March 2009 (UTC) -- fixed unmatching <nowiki>, sorry. --
Kusunose
13:26, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Both need to be done. The first to avoid the ? being shown in normal printing, and this one to avoid the ? being shown in PDF/book printing. (I know, stupid that we require two markings to hide something from print.. -- TheDJ ( talk • contribs) 19:47, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
{{Hide in print|?}}
. I tried it on a copy in my user space and it worked. Thanks
Fg2 (
talk)
20:17, 1 March 2009 (UTC)class="t_nihongo_help"
to class="t_nihongo_help noprint"
[1] fixed PDF version as well as printable version. Thank you! --
Kusunose
03:31, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Commas and spaces are inverted: it should be <text>,<space><text>, while now it is <text><space>,<text>. Also, the reference mark shouldn’t be preceded by a space.
I did manage a partial improvement in the sandbox, but haven’t been able to implement it. Can someone more knowledgeable do that?