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From http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Irish

I·rish(rsh) adj. Of or relating to Ireland or its people, language, or culture. n. 1. (used with a pl. verb) The people of Ireland. 2. a. See Irish Gaelic. b. See Irish English. 3. Informal Fieriness of temper or passion; high spirit.

Stubacca, the reason for my edit is that the current template title is misleading if it redirects to only part of Ireland. Would you like to create a "Republic of Irish" one?

Lapsed Pacifist 09:58, 25 May 2007 (UTC) reply

Unless anyone has a problem with it, I'd like to change this template back to the last version.

Lapsed Pacifist 10:32, 29 May 2007 (UTC) reply

Object, this template is only used for politicians from Republic of Ireland, not for the entire island. Ben W Bell talk 14:22, 29 May 2007 (UTC) reply

Then it has the wrong name.

Lapsed Pacifist 11:30, 30 May 2007 (UTC) reply

So which is it to be, folks? Shall we change the name or allow it to redirect correctly?

Lapsed Pacifist 13:28, 15 June 2007 (UTC) reply

I've changed the name, but... Isaac Butt from the Republic of Ireland? Wouldn't it be much simpler to just say Ireland, rather than giving the name of a state that didn't exist until decades after his death? Your thoughts?

Lapsed Pacifist 21:40, 16 June 2007 (UTC) reply

If someone is pre-partition then it has to be Ireland, no matter whether they are from north or south as there was only Ireland. Ben W Bell talk 07:19, 17 June 2007 (UTC) reply

Fair enough. As we have a six-county shape for the northeast template, I reckon we should have a twenty-six county shape for the rest of the country, and have the shamrock for pre-partition Ireland. What do you reckon?

Lapsed Pacifist 10:43, 18 June 2007 (UTC) reply

The six county shape has been used for Northern Ireland due to the massive debates raging over whether it has a flag or not. The six county symbol was a compromise. I'd say for the Republic of Ireland ones the tricolour should be used, as it's the flag of that country, but yes a shamrock being used for pre-partition sounds good. Ben W Bell talk 07:15, 19 June 2007 (UTC) reply

Cool with me.

Lapsed Pacifist 16:33, 19 June 2007 (UTC) reply

The reason the shamrock is used in this template, is because this template is also used for pre-independence (pre-partition) politicians. Using the flag of a nation that didn't exist when they were politically active, doesn't make sense. Snappy ( talk) 14:24, 14 July 2010 (UTC) reply