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The use of Native name is offensive to many cultures, can it be remove and replace with first nations name Gnan garra 11:02, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
indigenous_name
, for generality. According to
Indigenous peoples#North America, "
Indigenous peoples in Canada comprise the
First Nations,
Inuit and
Métis", so first_nations
would exclude Inuit and Métis.
Mitch Ames (
talk)
12:11, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
native_name
in the main part of the box, with the field name displayed as "Native name", whereas other_name
displays the name at the top, under the name
, with no field name (
example diff)native_name
(and not other_name
) which is displayed at the top with no other text (eg
Brisbane (Meanjin),
Rottnest Island (Wadjemup)).native_name
is displayed differently in rivers vs Australian places? Does {{
Infobox Australian place}} move it to the top only to avoid the need to display the deprecated/archaic/offensive text "Native name"?native_name
break anything, in particular other templates?|name_other=
can be used which will display other name(s) unlabelled below |name=
. Messing with |name_native=
would certainly cause problems in articles like
Rhine,
Danube, and similar. --
Michael Bednarek (
talk)
01:45, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
the title saying Natvie name, should at least be transient and capable of being changed to reflect the language code ie de say it German, nys say its nyungar, the actual word native doesnt need to be there.— I don't think that would work if there is more than one such name (eg Rhine). Perhaps simply displaying "Indigenous" instead of "Native" (keeping the template parameter name for back-compatibility, but also allowing
indigenous_name
) would be a simpler solution. This has the advantage of keeping the same heading text in all infoboxes, which helps the reader looking for that specific thing. It also means that someone not familiar with the word (for example) "Nyungar" doesn't have to click the link to find out what a "Nyungar name" is.
Mitch Ames (
talk)
23:28, 5 February 2023 (UTC)Autochthonous languageredirects to Indigenous language, which supports my original suggestion of "Indigenous name". Mitch Ames ( talk) 08:15, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
This
edit request to
Template:Infobox river/discharge has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Please swap rows 3 and 4, so that the sequence is min / av / max. This will then match the width and depth outputs. — GhostInTheMachine talk to me 09:39, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
It would be ideal if this infobox had a parameter for topographic maps as there is for {{ Infobox mountain}}. Volcano guy 04:18, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
The template uses and the Check for unknown parameters
call checks for 152 parameters. The template data listed 135 of these and I have imported the 17 extras. However, there are no template data descriptions at all and the Parameter names and descriptions
section described just 59 60 62 parameters. I am reluctant to add missing parameters without a suitable description, but will attempt to add ones I do understand. Please review my descriptions and add more —
GhostInTheMachine
talk to me
11:08, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
Parameter names and descriptions
section
source2..5
etc ⇒ 88/152 —
GhostInTheMachine
talk to me
11:42, 5 November 2023 (UTC)discharge2_* .. 5_*
⇒ 104/152 —
GhostInTheMachine
talk to me
13:15, 5 November 2023 (UTC)discharge1_(min / avg / max)_(imperial / metric)
etc be removed / killed / expunged / deprecated? I found just four uses of any of these and changed them all to use {{
convert}}
instead —
GhostInTheMachine
talk to me
12:47, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
|discharge1_avg_imperial=
|discharge1_avg_metric=
|discharge1_max_imperial=
|discharge1_min_imperial=
|mouth_elevation_imperial=
and |mouth_elevation_metric=
—
GhostInTheMachine
talk to me
22:43, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
discharge1 .. discharge5
live (and so should be documented) / obsolete (and so should be discouraged) / deprecated (and so should be deleted)? —
GhostInTheMachine
talk to me
19:10, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
|discharge1=
is a supported parameter in the template that affects the output of the infobox. If that is your question, the answer is yes, but only in a very few articles. It appears that the other four are unused. A helpful tip: to click on the monthly parameter usage report in the TemplateData section. Find the parameter in question, follow the "page links" link, and see how it is being used in articles. Doing these steps will take you to
Escanaba River and other articles.|discharge1_avg=
. –
Jonesey95 (
talk)
16:13, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
|discharge1=
to now use something else — 4 to |discharge1_avg=
and 3 to |mouth=
. Please can we remove |discharge1=
.. |discharge5=
from the template? —
GhostInTheMachine
talk to me
22:46, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
Are these available on this template, like on Template:Infobox settlement or Template:Infobox public transit? Trying to figure out if it is possible to include multiple maps in the infobox. See Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Preference_of_using_OpenStreetMaps. Shannon [ Talk ] 16:06, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
@ Shannon1 I sandboxed that at template:Infobox river/sandbox here is an example output, note hidden map and shown map.
Seine | |
---|---|
| |
Topographical map | |
Native name | la Seine ( French) |
Location | |
Country | France |
Physical characteristics | |
Source | |
• location | Source-Seine |
Mouth | English Channel ( French: la Manche) |
• location | Le Havre/ Honfleur |
• coordinates | 49°26′02″N 0°12′24″E / 49.43389°N 0.20667°E |
• elevation | 0 m (0 ft) |
Length | 777 km (483 mi) |
Basin size | 79,000 km2 (31,000 sq mi) |
Discharge | |
• location | Le Havre |
• average | 560 m3/s (20,000 cu ft/s) |
Basin features | |
River system | Seine basin |
Tributaries | |
• left | Yonne, Loing, Eure, Risle |
• right | Ource, Aube, Marne, Oise, Epte |
Hi,
I recently expanded the article about the discharge regime (which was previously grouped with river regime) to the point where it is not a stub anymore. I tried to decentralize it from the Alpine region where it is most commonly used and make it more globally balanced and I think now the article is developed to the point that a parameter for discharge regime could also be added to the infobox. I am thinking that the parameter would give just basic information about the regime, i.e. temperate pluvial, mediterranean, Texan, tropical pluvial/intertropical, equatorial, nival, nivo-glacial, glacial, nivo-pluvial, pluvio-nival, uniform, complex; and not all the subdivisions that are listed, maybe with addition of the month when the peak occurs, e.g. tropical pluvial (peak in September). What do you think? Garygo golob ( talk) 09:00, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
Template:Infobox river is permanently
protected from editing because it is a
heavily used or highly visible template. Substantial changes should first be proposed and discussed here on this page. If the proposal is uncontroversial or has been discussed and is supported by
consensus, editors may use {{
edit template-protected}} to notify an administrator or template editor to make the requested edit. Usually, any contributor may edit the template's
documentation to add usage notes or
categories.
Any contributor may edit the template's sandbox. Functionality of the template can be checked using test cases. |
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Infobox river template. |
|
Archives: 1, 2, 3Auto-archiving period: 365 days |
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The use of Native name is offensive to many cultures, can it be remove and replace with first nations name Gnan garra 11:02, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
indigenous_name
, for generality. According to
Indigenous peoples#North America, "
Indigenous peoples in Canada comprise the
First Nations,
Inuit and
Métis", so first_nations
would exclude Inuit and Métis.
Mitch Ames (
talk)
12:11, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
native_name
in the main part of the box, with the field name displayed as "Native name", whereas other_name
displays the name at the top, under the name
, with no field name (
example diff)native_name
(and not other_name
) which is displayed at the top with no other text (eg
Brisbane (Meanjin),
Rottnest Island (Wadjemup)).native_name
is displayed differently in rivers vs Australian places? Does {{
Infobox Australian place}} move it to the top only to avoid the need to display the deprecated/archaic/offensive text "Native name"?native_name
break anything, in particular other templates?|name_other=
can be used which will display other name(s) unlabelled below |name=
. Messing with |name_native=
would certainly cause problems in articles like
Rhine,
Danube, and similar. --
Michael Bednarek (
talk)
01:45, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
the title saying Natvie name, should at least be transient and capable of being changed to reflect the language code ie de say it German, nys say its nyungar, the actual word native doesnt need to be there.— I don't think that would work if there is more than one such name (eg Rhine). Perhaps simply displaying "Indigenous" instead of "Native" (keeping the template parameter name for back-compatibility, but also allowing
indigenous_name
) would be a simpler solution. This has the advantage of keeping the same heading text in all infoboxes, which helps the reader looking for that specific thing. It also means that someone not familiar with the word (for example) "Nyungar" doesn't have to click the link to find out what a "Nyungar name" is.
Mitch Ames (
talk)
23:28, 5 February 2023 (UTC)Autochthonous languageredirects to Indigenous language, which supports my original suggestion of "Indigenous name". Mitch Ames ( talk) 08:15, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
This
edit request to
Template:Infobox river/discharge has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Please swap rows 3 and 4, so that the sequence is min / av / max. This will then match the width and depth outputs. — GhostInTheMachine talk to me 09:39, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
It would be ideal if this infobox had a parameter for topographic maps as there is for {{ Infobox mountain}}. Volcano guy 04:18, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
The template uses and the Check for unknown parameters
call checks for 152 parameters. The template data listed 135 of these and I have imported the 17 extras. However, there are no template data descriptions at all and the Parameter names and descriptions
section described just 59 60 62 parameters. I am reluctant to add missing parameters without a suitable description, but will attempt to add ones I do understand. Please review my descriptions and add more —
GhostInTheMachine
talk to me
11:08, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
Parameter names and descriptions
section
source2..5
etc ⇒ 88/152 —
GhostInTheMachine
talk to me
11:42, 5 November 2023 (UTC)discharge2_* .. 5_*
⇒ 104/152 —
GhostInTheMachine
talk to me
13:15, 5 November 2023 (UTC)discharge1_(min / avg / max)_(imperial / metric)
etc be removed / killed / expunged / deprecated? I found just four uses of any of these and changed them all to use {{
convert}}
instead —
GhostInTheMachine
talk to me
12:47, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
|discharge1_avg_imperial=
|discharge1_avg_metric=
|discharge1_max_imperial=
|discharge1_min_imperial=
|mouth_elevation_imperial=
and |mouth_elevation_metric=
—
GhostInTheMachine
talk to me
22:43, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
discharge1 .. discharge5
live (and so should be documented) / obsolete (and so should be discouraged) / deprecated (and so should be deleted)? —
GhostInTheMachine
talk to me
19:10, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
|discharge1=
is a supported parameter in the template that affects the output of the infobox. If that is your question, the answer is yes, but only in a very few articles. It appears that the other four are unused. A helpful tip: to click on the monthly parameter usage report in the TemplateData section. Find the parameter in question, follow the "page links" link, and see how it is being used in articles. Doing these steps will take you to
Escanaba River and other articles.|discharge1_avg=
. –
Jonesey95 (
talk)
16:13, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
|discharge1=
to now use something else — 4 to |discharge1_avg=
and 3 to |mouth=
. Please can we remove |discharge1=
.. |discharge5=
from the template? —
GhostInTheMachine
talk to me
22:46, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
Are these available on this template, like on Template:Infobox settlement or Template:Infobox public transit? Trying to figure out if it is possible to include multiple maps in the infobox. See Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Preference_of_using_OpenStreetMaps. Shannon [ Talk ] 16:06, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
@ Shannon1 I sandboxed that at template:Infobox river/sandbox here is an example output, note hidden map and shown map.
Seine | |
---|---|
| |
Topographical map | |
Native name | la Seine ( French) |
Location | |
Country | France |
Physical characteristics | |
Source | |
• location | Source-Seine |
Mouth | English Channel ( French: la Manche) |
• location | Le Havre/ Honfleur |
• coordinates | 49°26′02″N 0°12′24″E / 49.43389°N 0.20667°E |
• elevation | 0 m (0 ft) |
Length | 777 km (483 mi) |
Basin size | 79,000 km2 (31,000 sq mi) |
Discharge | |
• location | Le Havre |
• average | 560 m3/s (20,000 cu ft/s) |
Basin features | |
River system | Seine basin |
Tributaries | |
• left | Yonne, Loing, Eure, Risle |
• right | Ource, Aube, Marne, Oise, Epte |
Hi,
I recently expanded the article about the discharge regime (which was previously grouped with river regime) to the point where it is not a stub anymore. I tried to decentralize it from the Alpine region where it is most commonly used and make it more globally balanced and I think now the article is developed to the point that a parameter for discharge regime could also be added to the infobox. I am thinking that the parameter would give just basic information about the regime, i.e. temperate pluvial, mediterranean, Texan, tropical pluvial/intertropical, equatorial, nival, nivo-glacial, glacial, nivo-pluvial, pluvio-nival, uniform, complex; and not all the subdivisions that are listed, maybe with addition of the month when the peak occurs, e.g. tropical pluvial (peak in September). What do you think? Garygo golob ( talk) 09:00, 15 May 2024 (UTC)