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Frequently asked questions Q1: Can you add a new field so that I can list an important person at a university?
A1: Probably not. To preserve
due weight, there is consensus that only someone "essential to understanding the institution" should be listed. Normally, only one person — the head of the institution — qualifies for this, although in rare cases where top authority is shared jointly, two or (even more rarely) three people may qualify. All others should be mentioned in the body or just omitted.
There are many existing fields for listing people. If you are working on a university with an unusual name for a top authority, the |head_label= parameter can be used to provide the name of the role and the |head= parameter can be used to provide the person in it. However, this method should not be used to list anyone other than an insitution's top authority. |
For some universities, the former names include a long list of different names. The length of the former name list may even be equal to or longer than the half space of the whole content in the infobox. For this situation, it is not appropriate to put the former name list in the infobox,as it will significantly damage the readability of remaining important information in the infobox. We should make it an option to either include the former name or not. Jianghaizhi ( talk) 23:03, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi, is there an argument for placing OpenStreetMaps (for example via Template:Mapframe) to add area and place of a university in the Infobox of its article. Something like maps of Template:Infobox museum. Thanks, Hooman Mallahzadeh ( talk) 12:33, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Apologies for my ignorance of these mapping functions. Would we need to account for articles that use this infobox and describe institutions with multiple, disparate locations? These different locations are sometimes very far apart, sometimes in different continents. ElKevbo ( talk) 21:57, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
@ Sdkb: I sandboxed probably the true code at Template:Infobox university/sandbox. Please inspect that. And this is the test of code which works fine:
Dāneshgāh-e sana'ti-e sharif | |
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Former name | Aryamehr University of Technology |
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Motto in English | The Place of Intellectuals and Elites Transforming National Talents into Global Bests |
Type | Public Research University |
Established | 1966[1] |
Endowment | US$ 0.5 billion (2021) [2] |
President | Abbas Mousavi [3] |
Academic staff | 460 (Full-time) (Fall 2022) |
Administrative staff | 395 (2021) |
Students | 10,812 (Fall 2022) |
Undergraduates | 5,659 (2021) |
Postgraduates | 3,390 (2021) |
989 (2021) | |
Location | , , 35°42′6.47″N 51°21′5.18″E / 35.7017972°N 51.3514389°E |
Campus | Urban, 74 acres (29.9 ha) |
Newspaper |
Sharif Daily Scientia Iranica |
Colors | Dark Blue |
Sporting affiliations | 19 sports IUSF |
Website | en.sharif.edu |
I think these two lines can be added, and is an improvement. At least we can test that for 1 week and wait for its bug reports. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hooman Mallahzadeh ( talk • contribs)
References
The current TemplateData proposes using formulations like [[Private university|Private]] [[Proprietary education|for-profit]] [[law school]] for |type=
. This poses problems:
The simple solution is to amend the TemplateData to recommend that, where there is consensus to list multiple types, they be formatted as a list, using {{ flatlist}}, {{ ubl}}, or any similar option. Courtesy ping to users in the discussion that prompted this post: @ Moxy, ElKevbo, and Sdkb:. Nikkimaria ( talk) 02:24, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
. I dislike that approach for grammatical reasons. "Private" is an incomplete thought on its own. When we say
Private for-profit law school, the "school" can apply to everything, but if we broke them apart with a horizontal list, we'd need to say
, which would be redundant.
- Private school
- For-profit school
- Law school
When possible. Blue seas are never desirable, but they're not forbidden either, and I'd argue that here is one place they're inevitable, since having appropriate links/grammar takes precedence. Sdkb talk 05:23, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
a much bigger problem than we can address in this one template. I agree, but if that was a reason not to address a problem we'd never get anything done. Conversely, I don't agree with the "grammatical" pleading; "type: private" is a perfectly reasonable fact-value pair, and is widely used not only in this template but in others as well - compare for example {{ infobox company}}. Similarly the "kind of institution" piece; if there is a desire to clarify the institution type then list it as a type, making it clear and available to reusers, rather than repeating it across multiple entries or tying it to one in particular. As to "when possible": here it is possible. Aesthetic preferences are not a good reason to discard that possibility, nor is "it's not forbidden". Nikkimaria ( talk) 01:19, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
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SMcCandlish
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¢ 😼 09:40, 1 May 2024 (UTC)Hello, I was wondering if anyone else would support adding a tuition field to this infobox? I think a lot of people looking at universities on Wikipedia would want to be able to quickly see that. We could add an in-state tuition and out-of-state tuition box. Any feedback? Hannahthom7 ( talk) 13:57, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
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for update the logo of JE Mondejar Foundation College MMS2024 ( talk) 13:31, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Infobox university template. |
|
Archives:
1,
2,
3,
4,
5,
6,
7,
8,
9,
10,
11,
12,
13,
14,
15,
16,
17,
18,
19,
20,
21,
22,
23Auto-archiving period: 92 days
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Template:Infobox university is permanently
protected from editing because it is a
heavily used or highly visible template. Substantial changes should first be proposed and discussed here on this page. If the proposal is uncontroversial or has been discussed and is supported by
consensus, editors may use {{
edit template-protected}} to notify an administrator or template editor to make the requested edit. Usually, any contributor may edit the template's
documentation to add usage notes or
categories.
Any contributor may edit the template's sandbox. Functionality of the template can be checked using test cases. |
![]() | Infoboxes | |||
|
![]() | Higher education Template‑class | ||||||
|
![]() | This template was considered for merging with Template:Infobox institute on 25 January 2014. The result of the discussion was "no consensus". |
![]() | This template was considered for merging with Template:Infobox academic division on 22 January 2015. The result of the discussion was "no consensus to merge". |
Frequently asked questions Q1: Can you add a new field so that I can list an important person at a university?
A1: Probably not. To preserve
due weight, there is consensus that only someone "essential to understanding the institution" should be listed. Normally, only one person — the head of the institution — qualifies for this, although in rare cases where top authority is shared jointly, two or (even more rarely) three people may qualify. All others should be mentioned in the body or just omitted.
There are many existing fields for listing people. If you are working on a university with an unusual name for a top authority, the |head_label= parameter can be used to provide the name of the role and the |head= parameter can be used to provide the person in it. However, this method should not be used to list anyone other than an insitution's top authority. |
For some universities, the former names include a long list of different names. The length of the former name list may even be equal to or longer than the half space of the whole content in the infobox. For this situation, it is not appropriate to put the former name list in the infobox,as it will significantly damage the readability of remaining important information in the infobox. We should make it an option to either include the former name or not. Jianghaizhi ( talk) 23:03, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi, is there an argument for placing OpenStreetMaps (for example via Template:Mapframe) to add area and place of a university in the Infobox of its article. Something like maps of Template:Infobox museum. Thanks, Hooman Mallahzadeh ( talk) 12:33, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Apologies for my ignorance of these mapping functions. Would we need to account for articles that use this infobox and describe institutions with multiple, disparate locations? These different locations are sometimes very far apart, sometimes in different continents. ElKevbo ( talk) 21:57, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
@ Sdkb: I sandboxed probably the true code at Template:Infobox university/sandbox. Please inspect that. And this is the test of code which works fine:
Dāneshgāh-e sana'ti-e sharif | |
| |
Former name | Aryamehr University of Technology |
---|---|
Motto in English | The Place of Intellectuals and Elites Transforming National Talents into Global Bests |
Type | Public Research University |
Established | 1966[1] |
Endowment | US$ 0.5 billion (2021) [2] |
President | Abbas Mousavi [3] |
Academic staff | 460 (Full-time) (Fall 2022) |
Administrative staff | 395 (2021) |
Students | 10,812 (Fall 2022) |
Undergraduates | 5,659 (2021) |
Postgraduates | 3,390 (2021) |
989 (2021) | |
Location | , , 35°42′6.47″N 51°21′5.18″E / 35.7017972°N 51.3514389°E |
Campus | Urban, 74 acres (29.9 ha) |
Newspaper |
Sharif Daily Scientia Iranica |
Colors | Dark Blue |
Sporting affiliations | 19 sports IUSF |
Website | en.sharif.edu |
I think these two lines can be added, and is an improvement. At least we can test that for 1 week and wait for its bug reports. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hooman Mallahzadeh ( talk • contribs)
References
The current TemplateData proposes using formulations like [[Private university|Private]] [[Proprietary education|for-profit]] [[law school]] for |type=
. This poses problems:
The simple solution is to amend the TemplateData to recommend that, where there is consensus to list multiple types, they be formatted as a list, using {{ flatlist}}, {{ ubl}}, or any similar option. Courtesy ping to users in the discussion that prompted this post: @ Moxy, ElKevbo, and Sdkb:. Nikkimaria ( talk) 02:24, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
. I dislike that approach for grammatical reasons. "Private" is an incomplete thought on its own. When we say
Private for-profit law school, the "school" can apply to everything, but if we broke them apart with a horizontal list, we'd need to say
, which would be redundant.
- Private school
- For-profit school
- Law school
When possible. Blue seas are never desirable, but they're not forbidden either, and I'd argue that here is one place they're inevitable, since having appropriate links/grammar takes precedence. Sdkb talk 05:23, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
a much bigger problem than we can address in this one template. I agree, but if that was a reason not to address a problem we'd never get anything done. Conversely, I don't agree with the "grammatical" pleading; "type: private" is a perfectly reasonable fact-value pair, and is widely used not only in this template but in others as well - compare for example {{ infobox company}}. Similarly the "kind of institution" piece; if there is a desire to clarify the institution type then list it as a type, making it clear and available to reusers, rather than repeating it across multiple entries or tying it to one in particular. As to "when possible": here it is possible. Aesthetic preferences are not a good reason to discard that possibility, nor is "it's not forbidden". Nikkimaria ( talk) 01:19, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
{{
hlist}}
. —
SMcCandlish
☏
¢ 😼 09:40, 1 May 2024 (UTC)Hello, I was wondering if anyone else would support adding a tuition field to this infobox? I think a lot of people looking at universities on Wikipedia would want to be able to quickly see that. We could add an in-state tuition and out-of-state tuition box. Any feedback? Hannahthom7 ( talk) 13:57, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
![]() | This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
for update the logo of JE Mondejar Foundation College MMS2024 ( talk) 13:31, 30 May 2024 (UTC)