Hello! Thank you all for voting on this issue and participating! An overwhelming majority of 68% – 29 votes total: 20 votes yes, 9 votes no – has voted to include the HDI in the country infobox/template (as of 23:59 (UTC) on 1 October 2005). We will proceed on that basis shortly.
During this period, various opinions were offered regarding how the HDI should appear in the infobox. Further discussion regarding this should hereafter occur below, the results of which will be integrated into the template.
Thank you all for your participation in this issue (I also apologise for the delay in rounding out this discussion piece.) In support of the
results of the related vote, there are two primary considerations/questions to resolve regarding the
HDI in this discussion:
(1) What precise elements (fields) pertaining to the HDI should appear in the country/infobox template, and how should they appear to a visitor?
(2) Where in the country/infobox template should the HDI information appear to a visitor?
(1) What precise elements (fields) pertaining to the HDI should appear in the country/infobox template, and how should they appear to a visitor?
Well, yes: these are two, but interrelated, questions. The possible fields/metadata that can be considered for placement – singly, in any combination, or in totality – in each infobox are:
I recommend including all of them (see below) – the usage and syntax boxes below indicate the proposed arrangment and structure on each country page:
Below is an example for Sweden:
<!-- BEGIN INFOBOX --> {{Infobox_Country| ... GDP_PPP_per_capita_rank = 20th | HDI_year = 2003 | HDI = 0.949 | HDI_rank = 6th | HDI_category = <font color="#009900">high</font> | currency = [[Swedish krona]] | ... }} <!-- END INFOBOX -->
<!-- BEGIN INFOBOX --> {{Infobox_Country| ... |GDP_PPP_per_capita_rank = |HDI_year = |HDI = |HDI_rank = |HDI_category = |currency = ... }} <!-- END INFOBOX -->
A test template appears here; please do not alter!, examples appear below.
I opt to include all fields with a colourised category (based on UN HDI classification, which will aide in the understanding of an otherwise cryptic number by novices); this will yield the following result and appearance (*). (For countries with null values, like Afghanistan, I recommend merely including "NA" in the data field.)
One alternate is that the category needn't be colourised (merely black text), but I think colour is also an important aide to understanding (e.g., traffic signal implications). These colours also roughly correspond to the HDI world map, and legend. See the HDI list for colours and wikitags proposed.
Numerous alternatives (including proposed ones, for Russia) are below:
(1)* | HDI ( 2003) | 0.795 ( 62nd) – medium |
(2) | HDI ( 2003) | 0.795 ( 62nd) – medium |
(3) | HDI ( 2003) | 0.795 ( 62nd) |
(4) | HDI ( 2003) | 62nd – medium |
(5) | HDI ( 2003) | 62nd – medium |
(6) | HDI ( 2003) | 62nd |
(7) | HDI ( 2003) | medium |
(8) | HDI ( 2003) | medium |
(9) | ? |
Thoughts? Cite numerical preference, or alternate, below.
(2) Where in the country/infobox template should the HDI information appear?
Given its function, being a synthesis of demographic and economic data, I suggest the HDI be placed after the GDP fields in the template and before the currency field.
Other possible locations include placement between the area and population fields, or at the bottom between the calling code and notes (or elsewhere).
Again, my preferred arrangement and appearance for the HDI in the country infobox/template is here.
Thoughts? Cite preference, or alternate, below.
So once issue (1) is resolved, interested parties should take some time to enter relevant HDI data for each country. Then, the country infobox/template can be modified as per issue (2). Then ... tada!
In support of and to implement the successful vote:
Discussion regarding anything here, or issues unidentified, is encouraged. Again, thank you all for your support, assistance, and input! E Pluribus Anthony 01:58, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Yes: it's in! As per the lengthy discussion above, in support of the earlier vote, a number of conclusions can be made:
Issue #1: What precise elements (fields) pertaining to the HDI should appear in the country/infobox template, and how should they appear to a visitor?
Issue #2: Where in the country/infobox template should the HDI information appear?
(1) Help add some data! Add your signature to the table below, indicating your intention to add HDI metadata to a particular group(s) of countries;
HDI category | Ranks | Countries | Wikipedian sign below! |
Done ? |
---|---|---|---|---|
High human development 0.800 – 0.999 |
1 – 20 | Norway – Germany | E Pluribus Anthony 02:24, 3 December 2005 (UTC) | Y! |
21 – 40 | Spain – Qatar |
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Yup. | |
41 – 57 | United Arab Emirates – Trinidad and Tobago |
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Yup. | |
Medium human development 0.500 – 0.799 |
58 – 79 | Libya – Peru |
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Yup. |
80 – 100 | Kazakhstan – Georgia |
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Yup. | |
101 – 123 | Azerbaijan – Gabon |
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Yup, except for
Palestine; adding it to
State of Palestine would be POV, adding it to
Palestinian territories isn't possible due to lack of infobox; maybe two values for
Israel somehow, one for Israel, the other for the Palestinian occupied territories?
| |
124 – 145 | Morocco – Zimbabwe |
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Yup. | |
Low human development 0 – 0.499 |
146 – 160 | Madagascar – Angola |
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Yup. |
161 – 177 | Eritrea – Niger |
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Yup. | |
unavailable (NA) | E Pluribus Anthony 17:49, 3 December 2005 (UTC) | Y! |
(2) Consult the
list of countries by HDI, and note country and applicable HDI information;
(3) Access the article or template for the country in question;
(4) Add the metadata fields (
as indicated above and in examples below) with the specific values and tags:
(5) Save your changes;
(6) Indicate in the above table that all entries in your charge have been completed;
(7) Once all of the metadata has been added to the country articles/infoboxes, I will then edit the template to exhibit these changes ... then
(8) Tada!
We're almost there! Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks to all of you for your input, patience, and assistance. Take care! E Pluribus Anthony 02:24, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
Kudos to you Nightstallion! Insane speed in getting these added. Mceder 14:59, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
Singapore has been un-protected, HDI information has been added.
ナイトスタリオン
✉
01:08, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Hello again, and thanks for your help. All the relevant data has been added. When I tried to edit the infobox template, however, the HDI and HDI_year values are displaying incorrectly –
see here for test template and
see here for the real McCoy and history. I believe I have edited the infobox template properly (and will gladly admit error!), but I require assistance or guidance before attempting to edit the template again. Merci beaucoup!
E Pluribus Anthony
18:24, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
Update the colors to the new parameters of the year 2013 proposed by the United Nations Development Programme.
For example: Colombia has a high human development for the United Nations Development Programme, but according to wikipedia has medium human development, that is incorrect, it is necessary to correct these errors.
http://hdr.undp.org/sites/default/files/hdr14-summary-en.pdf - the report of the United Nations Development Programme. Spawn Talk! 09:18, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
Hello! Thank you all for voting on this issue and participating! An overwhelming majority of 68% – 29 votes total: 20 votes yes, 9 votes no – has voted to include the HDI in the country infobox/template (as of 23:59 (UTC) on 1 October 2005). We will proceed on that basis shortly.
During this period, various opinions were offered regarding how the HDI should appear in the infobox. Further discussion regarding this should hereafter occur below, the results of which will be integrated into the template.
Thank you all for your participation in this issue (I also apologise for the delay in rounding out this discussion piece.) In support of the
results of the related vote, there are two primary considerations/questions to resolve regarding the
HDI in this discussion:
(1) What precise elements (fields) pertaining to the HDI should appear in the country/infobox template, and how should they appear to a visitor?
(2) Where in the country/infobox template should the HDI information appear to a visitor?
(1) What precise elements (fields) pertaining to the HDI should appear in the country/infobox template, and how should they appear to a visitor?
Well, yes: these are two, but interrelated, questions. The possible fields/metadata that can be considered for placement – singly, in any combination, or in totality – in each infobox are:
I recommend including all of them (see below) – the usage and syntax boxes below indicate the proposed arrangment and structure on each country page:
Below is an example for Sweden:
<!-- BEGIN INFOBOX --> {{Infobox_Country| ... GDP_PPP_per_capita_rank = 20th | HDI_year = 2003 | HDI = 0.949 | HDI_rank = 6th | HDI_category = <font color="#009900">high</font> | currency = [[Swedish krona]] | ... }} <!-- END INFOBOX -->
<!-- BEGIN INFOBOX --> {{Infobox_Country| ... |GDP_PPP_per_capita_rank = |HDI_year = |HDI = |HDI_rank = |HDI_category = |currency = ... }} <!-- END INFOBOX -->
A test template appears here; please do not alter!, examples appear below.
I opt to include all fields with a colourised category (based on UN HDI classification, which will aide in the understanding of an otherwise cryptic number by novices); this will yield the following result and appearance (*). (For countries with null values, like Afghanistan, I recommend merely including "NA" in the data field.)
One alternate is that the category needn't be colourised (merely black text), but I think colour is also an important aide to understanding (e.g., traffic signal implications). These colours also roughly correspond to the HDI world map, and legend. See the HDI list for colours and wikitags proposed.
Numerous alternatives (including proposed ones, for Russia) are below:
(1)* | HDI ( 2003) | 0.795 ( 62nd) – medium |
(2) | HDI ( 2003) | 0.795 ( 62nd) – medium |
(3) | HDI ( 2003) | 0.795 ( 62nd) |
(4) | HDI ( 2003) | 62nd – medium |
(5) | HDI ( 2003) | 62nd – medium |
(6) | HDI ( 2003) | 62nd |
(7) | HDI ( 2003) | medium |
(8) | HDI ( 2003) | medium |
(9) | ? |
Thoughts? Cite numerical preference, or alternate, below.
(2) Where in the country/infobox template should the HDI information appear?
Given its function, being a synthesis of demographic and economic data, I suggest the HDI be placed after the GDP fields in the template and before the currency field.
Other possible locations include placement between the area and population fields, or at the bottom between the calling code and notes (or elsewhere).
Again, my preferred arrangement and appearance for the HDI in the country infobox/template is here.
Thoughts? Cite preference, or alternate, below.
So once issue (1) is resolved, interested parties should take some time to enter relevant HDI data for each country. Then, the country infobox/template can be modified as per issue (2). Then ... tada!
In support of and to implement the successful vote:
Discussion regarding anything here, or issues unidentified, is encouraged. Again, thank you all for your support, assistance, and input! E Pluribus Anthony 01:58, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Yes: it's in! As per the lengthy discussion above, in support of the earlier vote, a number of conclusions can be made:
Issue #1: What precise elements (fields) pertaining to the HDI should appear in the country/infobox template, and how should they appear to a visitor?
Issue #2: Where in the country/infobox template should the HDI information appear?
(1) Help add some data! Add your signature to the table below, indicating your intention to add HDI metadata to a particular group(s) of countries;
HDI category | Ranks | Countries | Wikipedian sign below! |
Done ? |
---|---|---|---|---|
High human development 0.800 – 0.999 |
1 – 20 | Norway – Germany | E Pluribus Anthony 02:24, 3 December 2005 (UTC) | Y! |
21 – 40 | Spain – Qatar |
![]() |
Yup. | |
41 – 57 | United Arab Emirates – Trinidad and Tobago |
![]() |
Yup. | |
Medium human development 0.500 – 0.799 |
58 – 79 | Libya – Peru |
![]() |
Yup. |
80 – 100 | Kazakhstan – Georgia |
![]() |
Yup. | |
101 – 123 | Azerbaijan – Gabon |
![]() |
Yup, except for
Palestine; adding it to
State of Palestine would be POV, adding it to
Palestinian territories isn't possible due to lack of infobox; maybe two values for
Israel somehow, one for Israel, the other for the Palestinian occupied territories?
| |
124 – 145 | Morocco – Zimbabwe |
![]() |
Yup. | |
Low human development 0 – 0.499 |
146 – 160 | Madagascar – Angola |
![]() |
Yup. |
161 – 177 | Eritrea – Niger |
![]() |
Yup. | |
unavailable (NA) | E Pluribus Anthony 17:49, 3 December 2005 (UTC) | Y! |
(2) Consult the
list of countries by HDI, and note country and applicable HDI information;
(3) Access the article or template for the country in question;
(4) Add the metadata fields (
as indicated above and in examples below) with the specific values and tags:
(5) Save your changes;
(6) Indicate in the above table that all entries in your charge have been completed;
(7) Once all of the metadata has been added to the country articles/infoboxes, I will then edit the template to exhibit these changes ... then
(8) Tada!
We're almost there! Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks to all of you for your input, patience, and assistance. Take care! E Pluribus Anthony 02:24, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
Kudos to you Nightstallion! Insane speed in getting these added. Mceder 14:59, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
Singapore has been un-protected, HDI information has been added.
ナイトスタリオン
✉
01:08, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Hello again, and thanks for your help. All the relevant data has been added. When I tried to edit the infobox template, however, the HDI and HDI_year values are displaying incorrectly –
see here for test template and
see here for the real McCoy and history. I believe I have edited the infobox template properly (and will gladly admit error!), but I require assistance or guidance before attempting to edit the template again. Merci beaucoup!
E Pluribus Anthony
18:24, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
Update the colors to the new parameters of the year 2013 proposed by the United Nations Development Programme.
For example: Colombia has a high human development for the United Nations Development Programme, but according to wikipedia has medium human development, that is incorrect, it is necessary to correct these errors.
http://hdr.undp.org/sites/default/files/hdr14-summary-en.pdf - the report of the United Nations Development Programme. Spawn Talk! 09:18, 4 August 2014 (UTC)