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After seeing Chuq's modification to the location field (to 90%), which I think looks quite good, is there a scope to alter the font size on more fields (or indeed on all of them)? I'm thinking of Local government and Fed/State electorates in particular. I realise this could be controversial so I'm putting it out there as an idea and seeing what people think.
(BTW: please feel free to play with the mocks under my user space - they'll get nuked anyway when this discussion is over. I've done the very messy way of putting font size in front of each bit, if we were doing this properly it'd be done using a style feature I suspect.)
I have been discussing the max and min temperatures with Ikeshut and thought it may be worth bringing the conversation here. I have copied the relevant section below
I am quite happy to use any measure in the temperature fields but it should be consistent and perhaps linked to a definition to avoid confusion and ambiguity. Any thoughts? -- Mattinbgn 02:46, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
The template {{ Infobox City}} has a number of good features that might be of use here. One is the clear definition of images: one dedicated map image and one for a photo (there are also other fields for emblems, flags, etc). There are also various other fields for area (urban, water, etc) and population. Since Infobox City is intended to be a generic infobox for cities everywhere, perhaps some of these features should be introduced here.
Using Infobox City, I have made a rough version of what Sydney would look like here. If you look at the syntax, you can see that there are a lot of different fields available. If extra fields can present things better without being redundant, we shouldn't be afraid of having too many fields. Thoughts? - 52 Pickup 11:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I have started a discussion regarding this on AWNB, right here. As it directly affects this template, I thought that people who monitor here but not over there might like to see. Basically, there is a consensus more-or-less to scrap this field, as in my opinion it creates more problems than it solves. But I'd like to hear your thoughts before I go and chop it out of the template.
Please comment over there, as opposed to here, so that the discussion remains centralised.
Thanks!
Lankiveil 09:54, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Can people please remove <ref>
inside the template declarations.
cite.php (the ref parser) doesn't work inside templates, and seeing ref tags keeps bugging me.
Thanks --
TheJosh 10:20, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
I have been analysing ABS QuickStats. This is about as short as a url for abs can get. Notice also
http://www8.abs.gov.au/ABSNavigation/prenav/LocationSearch?areacode=POA2086&producttype=QuickStats&action=401
This url is for postcode 2086. 29/6/07 - note this url no longer works
This means we can automate links to ABS, using the rather reliable postcodes, without requiring users to determine town codes, etc. And it has a small enough scope to be useful. How we use it? don't know. Perhaps an Infobox footnote? -- TheJosh 10:38, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
2 suggestions here. :)
Can the red spot for the city map be more apparent? It appears no problem in its full size but when it's shrunk to a smaller size it's not that noticeable.
Also can the wording for "suburbs around xxx" and those about mean temperatures be standardise like other items such as "postcode", "LGA"? Afterall they're of the same category and should have same font size and background.
matt-( my page- leave me a message) 16:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Adelaide South Australia | |
---|---|
Population | 1,124,315 ( 5th) |
• Density | 615/km2 (1,590/sq mi) |
Established | 1836 |
Area | 1,826.9 km2 (705.4 sq mi) |
Time zone | ACST ( UTC+9:30) |
• Summer ( DST) | ACDT ( UTC+10:30) |
Location |
Adelaide South Australia | |
---|---|
Population | 1,124,315 ( 5th) |
• Density | 615/km2 (1,590/sq mi) |
Established | 1836 |
Area | 1,826.9 km2 (705.4 sq mi) |
Time zone | ACST ( UTC+9:30) |
• Summer ( DST) | ACDT ( UTC+10:30) |
Location |
vs It makes is more clear where Adelaide is especially for people with slight colourblind problems like me. Thanks matt-( my page- leave me a message) 14:18, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Oppose a dot of this size looks both strange, and loweres the value of the infomation, because its not accurate enough. -- TheJosh 03:35, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Just thought I would let you know of two formatting problems with the infobox.
I reinstated the source from which the suburb area figure came from (using a <ref> tag) as it got removed by the person who replaced the info box. The new infobox places the superscript between the area and its unit (km), so the text gets incorrectly rendered as : 10.7[2]km². In the old infobox the text was rendered as 10.7 sq. km[2]. The new rendering is a problem as units are supposed to directly follow the numbers to which they apply, and the area would be strictly read as as 114.49 (= 10.7 squared) in the example given (or some other power in an arbitrary example).
Also the "Suburbs around" section doesn't allow a reference to be inserted. A reference is essential so the reader can verify that the suburbs claimed really do adjoin as claimed by Wikipedia. John Dalton 04:14, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Is there any way of modifying the Mount Coot-tha suburban infobox, where the name of "Mount Coot-tha" can be split differently, by having a break before the word "Coot-tha", so that the suburban infobox would show the name of Mount Coot-tha as:
instead of as:
which is how the name of "Mount Coot-tha" is shown at present. Thanks. I have tried to correct this myself, but have found the problem impossible to fix up because the name of "Mount Coot-tha" is not listed within the suburban box. Figaro 04:39, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
–
) --
TheJosh 04:07, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Could we get rid of whatever is adding the category cities in state from the template, it adds the rightfully non-existent category Cities in the ACT to the Canberra article. -- Peta 01:45, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Hey,
I would just like to inform everyone I am going to go on a short WikiBreak. This is only of importance here because I feel like the unofficial leader of this group. I therefore unofficially promote Orderinchaos as the unoffical leader of this template management (for the next few months, until everything is running real smooth)
When I get back, I am thinking of creating a wikiproject, Wikiproject Infoboxes, mabey...
Until then,
TheJosh 23:08, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Fixed. You had the propval
field listed twice in the infobox code, so it did not show up. In the future please copy the code from the
Blank Infobox Template Page into the article and all should be ok.
◄
§ĉҺɑʀκs
► 11:48, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Sippy Downs Sunshine Coast, Queensland | |||||||||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Postcode(s) | 4556 | ||||||||||||||
Location | 88 km (55 mi) from Brisbane | ||||||||||||||
LGA(s) | Maroochy | ||||||||||||||
|
Some people put large national parks, etc, in the neighbours. Those national parks can be in multiple locations rather than one place like an lga or suburb. I think it's better to put [[suburbname|(national park name) suburb name]]. Zephyr103 05:38, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks to a CFD debate on 3 January, Category:Suburbs of Perth will be renamed to Category:Suburbs of Perth, Western Australia. This is going to break the template for the Perth suburbs as it'll be pointing to a now-nonexistent category. Any ideas/thoughts? Orderinchaos 03:40, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
This:
looks like a bug to me. I read it as saying
Why check if there's a category of one name, only to link to a category of a different name? Hesperian 04:12, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Can someone explain the formating problem regarding the edit links on Blinman, South Australia. The first 3 are grouped together at the bottom of the infobox. Any ideas? Sorry if this has come up b4 ... maelgwn talk 09:58, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | Archive 4 | Archive 5 | → | Archive 9 |
After seeing Chuq's modification to the location field (to 90%), which I think looks quite good, is there a scope to alter the font size on more fields (or indeed on all of them)? I'm thinking of Local government and Fed/State electorates in particular. I realise this could be controversial so I'm putting it out there as an idea and seeing what people think.
(BTW: please feel free to play with the mocks under my user space - they'll get nuked anyway when this discussion is over. I've done the very messy way of putting font size in front of each bit, if we were doing this properly it'd be done using a style feature I suspect.)
I have been discussing the max and min temperatures with Ikeshut and thought it may be worth bringing the conversation here. I have copied the relevant section below
I am quite happy to use any measure in the temperature fields but it should be consistent and perhaps linked to a definition to avoid confusion and ambiguity. Any thoughts? -- Mattinbgn 02:46, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
The template {{ Infobox City}} has a number of good features that might be of use here. One is the clear definition of images: one dedicated map image and one for a photo (there are also other fields for emblems, flags, etc). There are also various other fields for area (urban, water, etc) and population. Since Infobox City is intended to be a generic infobox for cities everywhere, perhaps some of these features should be introduced here.
Using Infobox City, I have made a rough version of what Sydney would look like here. If you look at the syntax, you can see that there are a lot of different fields available. If extra fields can present things better without being redundant, we shouldn't be afraid of having too many fields. Thoughts? - 52 Pickup 11:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I have started a discussion regarding this on AWNB, right here. As it directly affects this template, I thought that people who monitor here but not over there might like to see. Basically, there is a consensus more-or-less to scrap this field, as in my opinion it creates more problems than it solves. But I'd like to hear your thoughts before I go and chop it out of the template.
Please comment over there, as opposed to here, so that the discussion remains centralised.
Thanks!
Lankiveil 09:54, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Can people please remove <ref>
inside the template declarations.
cite.php (the ref parser) doesn't work inside templates, and seeing ref tags keeps bugging me.
Thanks --
TheJosh 10:20, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
I have been analysing ABS QuickStats. This is about as short as a url for abs can get. Notice also
http://www8.abs.gov.au/ABSNavigation/prenav/LocationSearch?areacode=POA2086&producttype=QuickStats&action=401
This url is for postcode 2086. 29/6/07 - note this url no longer works
This means we can automate links to ABS, using the rather reliable postcodes, without requiring users to determine town codes, etc. And it has a small enough scope to be useful. How we use it? don't know. Perhaps an Infobox footnote? -- TheJosh 10:38, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
2 suggestions here. :)
Can the red spot for the city map be more apparent? It appears no problem in its full size but when it's shrunk to a smaller size it's not that noticeable.
Also can the wording for "suburbs around xxx" and those about mean temperatures be standardise like other items such as "postcode", "LGA"? Afterall they're of the same category and should have same font size and background.
matt-( my page- leave me a message) 16:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Adelaide South Australia | |
---|---|
Population | 1,124,315 ( 5th) |
• Density | 615/km2 (1,590/sq mi) |
Established | 1836 |
Area | 1,826.9 km2 (705.4 sq mi) |
Time zone | ACST ( UTC+9:30) |
• Summer ( DST) | ACDT ( UTC+10:30) |
Location |
Adelaide South Australia | |
---|---|
Population | 1,124,315 ( 5th) |
• Density | 615/km2 (1,590/sq mi) |
Established | 1836 |
Area | 1,826.9 km2 (705.4 sq mi) |
Time zone | ACST ( UTC+9:30) |
• Summer ( DST) | ACDT ( UTC+10:30) |
Location |
vs It makes is more clear where Adelaide is especially for people with slight colourblind problems like me. Thanks matt-( my page- leave me a message) 14:18, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Oppose a dot of this size looks both strange, and loweres the value of the infomation, because its not accurate enough. -- TheJosh 03:35, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Just thought I would let you know of two formatting problems with the infobox.
I reinstated the source from which the suburb area figure came from (using a <ref> tag) as it got removed by the person who replaced the info box. The new infobox places the superscript between the area and its unit (km), so the text gets incorrectly rendered as : 10.7[2]km². In the old infobox the text was rendered as 10.7 sq. km[2]. The new rendering is a problem as units are supposed to directly follow the numbers to which they apply, and the area would be strictly read as as 114.49 (= 10.7 squared) in the example given (or some other power in an arbitrary example).
Also the "Suburbs around" section doesn't allow a reference to be inserted. A reference is essential so the reader can verify that the suburbs claimed really do adjoin as claimed by Wikipedia. John Dalton 04:14, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Is there any way of modifying the Mount Coot-tha suburban infobox, where the name of "Mount Coot-tha" can be split differently, by having a break before the word "Coot-tha", so that the suburban infobox would show the name of Mount Coot-tha as:
instead of as:
which is how the name of "Mount Coot-tha" is shown at present. Thanks. I have tried to correct this myself, but have found the problem impossible to fix up because the name of "Mount Coot-tha" is not listed within the suburban box. Figaro 04:39, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
–
) --
TheJosh 04:07, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Could we get rid of whatever is adding the category cities in state from the template, it adds the rightfully non-existent category Cities in the ACT to the Canberra article. -- Peta 01:45, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Hey,
I would just like to inform everyone I am going to go on a short WikiBreak. This is only of importance here because I feel like the unofficial leader of this group. I therefore unofficially promote Orderinchaos as the unoffical leader of this template management (for the next few months, until everything is running real smooth)
When I get back, I am thinking of creating a wikiproject, Wikiproject Infoboxes, mabey...
Until then,
TheJosh 23:08, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Fixed. You had the propval
field listed twice in the infobox code, so it did not show up. In the future please copy the code from the
Blank Infobox Template Page into the article and all should be ok.
◄
§ĉҺɑʀκs
► 11:48, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Sippy Downs Sunshine Coast, Queensland | |||||||||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Postcode(s) | 4556 | ||||||||||||||
Location | 88 km (55 mi) from Brisbane | ||||||||||||||
LGA(s) | Maroochy | ||||||||||||||
|
Some people put large national parks, etc, in the neighbours. Those national parks can be in multiple locations rather than one place like an lga or suburb. I think it's better to put [[suburbname|(national park name) suburb name]]. Zephyr103 05:38, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks to a CFD debate on 3 January, Category:Suburbs of Perth will be renamed to Category:Suburbs of Perth, Western Australia. This is going to break the template for the Perth suburbs as it'll be pointing to a now-nonexistent category. Any ideas/thoughts? Orderinchaos 03:40, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
This:
looks like a bug to me. I read it as saying
Why check if there's a category of one name, only to link to a category of a different name? Hesperian 04:12, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Can someone explain the formating problem regarding the edit links on Blinman, South Australia. The first 3 are grouped together at the bottom of the infobox. Any ideas? Sorry if this has come up b4 ... maelgwn talk 09:58, 13 January 2007 (UTC)