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God, it looks like smoke in the eyes. Is there a way to make it look nicer? Perhaps put white instead of the dark gray. No offense, just wanting to make it better.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.174.240.210 ( talk • contribs) 16:32, 19 July 2007
I have made two modifications, but many more are needed:
1) There is a 'new' 5-door Barina hatch due in 2008. This brings the hatch in-line with the new sedan introduced in 2006. How can we deal with this 'overlapping' in the timeline, though?
2) Monaro production was from 2001-2006. Holden badged vehicles were only produced until 2005, while HSV models continued to be both built and sold in 2006. Sales figures reveal 912 Monaros being sold in 2006, while 152 were even sold in 2007 (however these would have all been built in 2006)
Now, as for the modifications I feel are needed:
1) Overlapping of old VZ Commodore wagon and new VE Sedan production. The timeline makes it look as if the entire Commodore range changed over in 2006, but VZ wagon production still continues. How do we show this?
2) The Commodore/Berlina/Calais should all be merged into a single line. As far as VFACTs sales figures are concerned, these are all the same model. Similarly, the Statesman and Caprice should both be merged as well. These models all change over at the same exact time, so having separate model lines is pointless and redundant. Davez621 ( talk) 05:00, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
(indent reset) As I said before, the HSV Monaros belong on a timeline to do with HSVs. I am aware that such a template does not exist, but that is irrelevant. VFACTS is not some holly book, just because VFACTS include HSVs as Holdens, doesn't mean we have to. If we took up that philosophy, we would not have a HSV article, but rather a short sentence about it in the Holden article. OSX ( talk • contributions) 09:48, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Who on earth decided to include a conversion by an aftermarket company in the official Holden timeline?! Davez621 ( talk) 14:48, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Template was better looking when it had floating title in the blue top section like this http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Template:Holden_timeline&oldid=264220403 , is it possible to get back? -- Typ932 T· C 08:12, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I added lines between types... sometimes the type spanned 2 or 3 rows and it was looking a little unclear. However, looking at other GM timelines it would seem such divider lines are not the norm. I'll leave it to someone else to decide to 1) revert the lines I added in the Holden template, 2) add such lines to the other templates, or 3) leave the lines in the Holden template and leave the other templates as they are. JBarta ( talk) 12:15, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
With regard to the question over the existence of the HZ Kingswood Panel Van, the "Holden Utes, Vans & One Tonners” brochure K247, issued by GMH in October 1977 has the following on the first of its two "Holden Vans" pages: "Two models, Kingswood and Holden. You get a little more in the way of features with Kingswood" The main photo on these pages shows a HZ Van with a "Kingswood" number plate and "Kingswood" badges on the grille and front guard. GTHO ( talk) 03:07, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
When I view the Holden Timeline via Internet Explorer the scrollbar does not appear at the bottom of the chart. I’ve notice that a number of similar timelines e.g. Chevrolet, are split into two time periods so that the scrollbar is not needed. I suggest that we do the same to the Holden Timeline. GTHO ( talk) 23:24, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
I had always assumed that the main criteria for inclusion in the Holden Timeline was that the model was a Holden. With the inclusion of the "Statesman (HQ/HJ/HX/HZ/WB)" this seems to no longer be the case. What is the new criteria? GTHO ( talk) 03:24, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
What's with the dark grey bars separating each vehicle style? Makes the template unneccessarily large. -- Falcadore ( talk) 03:15, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
OK, this template is now too large. Even with the scrollbar helping it is now too tall to fit on the page at once. My screen is set at 1280x800 resolution and you can no longer see the top of the template while using the scrollbar. There needs to be a compromise between completism and usability. -- Falcadore ( talk) 23:10, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Is there any reason why "Premier" (EJ/EH), "Premier" (HD/HR) and "Premier" (HK/HT/HG) link to Holden Premier, but "Premier" (HQ/HJ/HX/HZ) links to Holden Kingswood? I would have thought either all four should link to Holden Premier, or (my preference) EJ/EH and HD/HR should link to Holden Special and HK/HT/HG and HQ/HJ/HX/HZ link to Holden Kingswood. I would have just changed it, but I thought there might be some reason for the current arrangement. Thanks. DH85868993 ( talk) 03:54, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
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God, it looks like smoke in the eyes. Is there a way to make it look nicer? Perhaps put white instead of the dark gray. No offense, just wanting to make it better.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.174.240.210 ( talk • contribs) 16:32, 19 July 2007
I have made two modifications, but many more are needed:
1) There is a 'new' 5-door Barina hatch due in 2008. This brings the hatch in-line with the new sedan introduced in 2006. How can we deal with this 'overlapping' in the timeline, though?
2) Monaro production was from 2001-2006. Holden badged vehicles were only produced until 2005, while HSV models continued to be both built and sold in 2006. Sales figures reveal 912 Monaros being sold in 2006, while 152 were even sold in 2007 (however these would have all been built in 2006)
Now, as for the modifications I feel are needed:
1) Overlapping of old VZ Commodore wagon and new VE Sedan production. The timeline makes it look as if the entire Commodore range changed over in 2006, but VZ wagon production still continues. How do we show this?
2) The Commodore/Berlina/Calais should all be merged into a single line. As far as VFACTs sales figures are concerned, these are all the same model. Similarly, the Statesman and Caprice should both be merged as well. These models all change over at the same exact time, so having separate model lines is pointless and redundant. Davez621 ( talk) 05:00, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
(indent reset) As I said before, the HSV Monaros belong on a timeline to do with HSVs. I am aware that such a template does not exist, but that is irrelevant. VFACTS is not some holly book, just because VFACTS include HSVs as Holdens, doesn't mean we have to. If we took up that philosophy, we would not have a HSV article, but rather a short sentence about it in the Holden article. OSX ( talk • contributions) 09:48, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Who on earth decided to include a conversion by an aftermarket company in the official Holden timeline?! Davez621 ( talk) 14:48, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Template was better looking when it had floating title in the blue top section like this http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Template:Holden_timeline&oldid=264220403 , is it possible to get back? -- Typ932 T· C 08:12, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I added lines between types... sometimes the type spanned 2 or 3 rows and it was looking a little unclear. However, looking at other GM timelines it would seem such divider lines are not the norm. I'll leave it to someone else to decide to 1) revert the lines I added in the Holden template, 2) add such lines to the other templates, or 3) leave the lines in the Holden template and leave the other templates as they are. JBarta ( talk) 12:15, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
With regard to the question over the existence of the HZ Kingswood Panel Van, the "Holden Utes, Vans & One Tonners” brochure K247, issued by GMH in October 1977 has the following on the first of its two "Holden Vans" pages: "Two models, Kingswood and Holden. You get a little more in the way of features with Kingswood" The main photo on these pages shows a HZ Van with a "Kingswood" number plate and "Kingswood" badges on the grille and front guard. GTHO ( talk) 03:07, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
When I view the Holden Timeline via Internet Explorer the scrollbar does not appear at the bottom of the chart. I’ve notice that a number of similar timelines e.g. Chevrolet, are split into two time periods so that the scrollbar is not needed. I suggest that we do the same to the Holden Timeline. GTHO ( talk) 23:24, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
I had always assumed that the main criteria for inclusion in the Holden Timeline was that the model was a Holden. With the inclusion of the "Statesman (HQ/HJ/HX/HZ/WB)" this seems to no longer be the case. What is the new criteria? GTHO ( talk) 03:24, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
What's with the dark grey bars separating each vehicle style? Makes the template unneccessarily large. -- Falcadore ( talk) 03:15, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
OK, this template is now too large. Even with the scrollbar helping it is now too tall to fit on the page at once. My screen is set at 1280x800 resolution and you can no longer see the top of the template while using the scrollbar. There needs to be a compromise between completism and usability. -- Falcadore ( talk) 23:10, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Is there any reason why "Premier" (EJ/EH), "Premier" (HD/HR) and "Premier" (HK/HT/HG) link to Holden Premier, but "Premier" (HQ/HJ/HX/HZ) links to Holden Kingswood? I would have thought either all four should link to Holden Premier, or (my preference) EJ/EH and HD/HR should link to Holden Special and HK/HT/HG and HQ/HJ/HX/HZ link to Holden Kingswood. I would have just changed it, but I thought there might be some reason for the current arrangement. Thanks. DH85868993 ( talk) 03:54, 12 December 2017 (UTC)